My name is Sean, and I am a gun snob

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MoNsTeR said:
You gotta be kidding me! If Auto-Ord, RIA, and Charles Daly are 1st-tier trash, these three are only 2nd-tier. Real 1911 snobs don't own anything worth less than $2000.
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Now now, my only "expensive" 1911 is a Wilson Combat that was put together for me in 1993. The rest are Gold Cups, Commanders, and reg'lar ole 1911's.
 
alduro said:
Hmmmm.........I guess I susbscribe to an entirely different school of thought. I can see I will have to start a new thread called, the practical man's answer to the gun snob. I'll do that now. :)

Ahh...the heck with it, I'll post it here.

You're not a gun snob due to the Glock being in your collection, however you also do not view weapons as tools or a means to an end. Neither do you own weapons just to put lead down range. You own weapons kind of as a status symbol or a measurement of accomplishment. You may even let someone such as "Guns & Ammo" dictate what is in and what isn't.

Of course I am making assumtion.

I view guns as a means to an end. I refuse to compromise on quality and reliability in a defensive arm, which is why I cannot carry a 1911 in confidence at all. Face it, it ain't and never will have the absolute no nonsense reliability out of the box and accuracy of some of the Sigs, and plastic fantastics.

Everytime I buy a gun like say a nickel plated whatnot, I sell it. I hate owning anything that does not have a utility. I guess I am spartan but to me, guns are for mud, blood, grit and grime. I sweat on them, carry them in hot, cold, wet, dry conditions. Have fought with them on my side, have had them hit by a car (yes I was wearing it at the time) slammed into doors, (cops who wear duty holsters on a Sam Brown know what I'm talking about) I've landed on the conrete on them and I've even dropped a couple. At no time did I do a fancy pants dance because I nicked my custom finish on a $1500.00 thingy jig.

I won't buy a $200.00 hammer and I won't buy a hammer that won't work when I need it. I also won't own a hammer I have to clean and polish once a week. I want it to sit idly by and wait until I need it, work like I expect it to, and boom, back into the tool kit.

I guess I am the opposite of you, yet I still own Sigs and have the upmost respect for them. I do not own cheap pistols because they do not perform as the better ones and I HATE when things break. So.....I shoot CZ, Sig, Glock and an XD....why? I haven't found anything that is as accurate and dead reliable as those. Am I a snob? nope, do I wear a Rolex? No, I wear a Timex, jeans, sneakers and Don Hume leather.

If I do own a FEG or a cheapie, it isn't for defense....if I do use it for that purpose, it is because it has proven itself time and time again, though I haven't found one yet that has. (for those interested I haven't tried a FEG yet)

Anything failing on me, has to go. No exceptions. I hate cheap crap, I hate useless crap. If it doesn't have a utility, it's gotta go. I guess I have a "work truck" mentality.

BIG assumption! I love guns, but I am an EVERYDAY gun carrier that is a retired fed leo, who was hurt in the line of duty. I take my defensive tool VERY, VERY seriously. I train, I practice, and I spend a lot of time keeping my martial skills at a high level.

Remember amigo...I also said I drive a GMC when I could have bought an Escalade. I wear a Timex, when I could wear a more expensive watch.

That is why I don't buy zillion dollar race guns...I buy good guns that WORK.
 
Nick96 said:
Well Sean, the only thing I disagree with you is with regard to your opinion of Rugers. You strike me as a fellow that appreciates substance over style. This is the very essence of Ruger firearms. Maybe not the prettiest, but certainly the equal of any maker - and better than most for their intended purpose. People will argue about the appearance, weight, bulk, slickness, etc. of any given Ruger. But few will argue that they are not durable, accurate, reliable & reasonably priced - regardless of caliber or operating system.

Of course, being concerned with your full development as an enlightened being of the cosmos, I recommend you immediately go out and buy the following Rugers:

* GP 100 - .357
* P-95 - 9MM Auto
* Mk II - .22 Auto

You'll be able to get all three for under $1,000 brand new in most parts of the U.S. - and have money left over to run an ample number of factory loaded rounds through each to really come to appreciate them.

I must agree with you on the MKII, and the 22/45. I have a few of both, and I wouldn't buy anything but a 10/22 if mine all of a sudden came up gone.

For an SA for hunting, you'd be hard pressed to beat a Blackhawk or Super Blackhawk for a wisely spent dollar. They just aren't my Freedom Arms Casull.

And no doubt Ruger is a DARNED good gun...they just don't "speak to me" like a Smith or a Colt.

I know, I KNOW.....I AM rotten! LOL
 
SnakeEater said:
I prefer HK and SIG pistols over everything else because they work. Period. Now the time for snobbery comes when talking about gunleather, a fine holster is quite a sight to behold. I outfit even my cheapest guns (makarov) with high quality leather.

AMEN SNAKE....I make holsters, so I understand. Half the excitement for me of getting a new gun, is getting out my leather tools and making a new holster for it.

I love the feel and the smell of a good piece of leather or horse hide, a good gun deserves a good holster.

All my guns have their OWN holster.
 
My $0,000.02 worth on the subject.

Buy what works of you, clean, lube & maintain your gun(s) properly, use good quality ammunition and, if its a semi, good quality magazines in good working order. Commit yourself to sufficient practice time at the range. If the gun doesn't quite work for you after shooting the gun for a period of time, consider taking it to a good pistolsmith that can make it work for you, rather than trading it off. I enjoy shooting my guns, I don't like to make a science project or a ballistics experiment out of shooting, this could take the fun out of it for me. My biggest problem is that there aren't too many of these guns that I don't like, so my wish list just keeps getting bigger.
 
i tend to put a fair amount of research and scrutiny into items who's malfunction can get me injured or killed, and by and large the old saying holds true- "you get what you pay for"

sure, you can find a good deal if you look- and believe me i'm all for that- but life support equipment has to have the proper level of quality to begin with. anything less is false (and potentially disastrous) economy
 
I bought a pair of Kimbers and a STI Edge...........but I'm not really a snob.

I'm the type to take the Escalade and flog it through the nearest mud hole and gravel pit. The first time an elctronic conks out I'm trading her for a Durango.......
 
Nah, you're not a snob.

Snobs tend to write for gun rags.

You know, they write about how great the new whosewhatsits is. . . .AFTER they sent it to Hamilton Bowen, the engraver of the week, and a few other advertiser's shops.

Yeah, if every gun you own HAS to to to the 'smith's straight from the box, then you're a snob. If every gun you have is a custom piece, you're a snob.

Having good taste just makes you a rare commodity.

Me, I'm just a redneck.
I drive a work truck.
I use a pocket watch.
My handgun of choice is a Ruger, with a few S&Ws throuwn in for good measure (no Colts because I've simply never SEEN one at any of the shops I frequent)
Rifles, heck I use leverguns and milsurps. I just can't bring myself to buy a mosern sporter when I can have a Mauser, Enfield, Spring field, even a Mosin, with all that nice wood, blued metal and hand work put into them.
Shotguns are Remingtons and Mossbergs.

I demand maximum reliability from firearms, if it isn't reliable, it gets traded, I don't care how pretty it is or how "expensive" the name is.

On the other hand, I won't abide cheap, unreliable arms either.
 
I am NOT a gun snob at ALL..........personally I would rather have my RELIABLE Hi-point than them jam'o'matic Kimbers. Its more fun to shoot than have alot of trouble with a nice looking pistol. :cool:
 
Of course, being concerned with your full development as an enlightened being of the cosmos, I recommend you immediately go out and buy the following Rugers:

* GP 100 - .357
* P-95 - 9MM Auto
* Mk II - .22 Auto

Oh, no. I love Rugers for their utility, and the rifles can be upgraded to exquisite levels, but as another gun snob, I'd have to go with

.357 = S&W with that great blue
9mm = Browning Hi Power
.22 Auto = S&W 41
 
I'm a bit of a gun snob, too.

When it comes to revolvers, my tastes run to Colts, Rugers, and Smith&Wesson's. I won't touch anything made by either Taurus or Rossi with a ten-foot pole, and thier snubbies are uglier than my Glock. :barf:

As for semi-autos, I like Colts, Berettas, and Glocks. That's it. I own a Colt Model 1991A1 Stainless and a Glock 19 (pre-ban) and love them both. I'm lusting after a Beretta 92FS and hope to pick one up sometime in the near future. The rest are just ugly junk guns like the Sigma, the Taurus 92FS look-alikes, the Springfield wannabes, and so on. :neener:
 
Yeah I'm a snob. The only 1911's I like have little Ponies on 'em.

Heck any Colt made before WW2 are some of the best examples of 'what a gun should be.'

Now don't get me wrong, I like Sigs, but I could never afford one when I was interested in getting a wondernine.

Glocks are good, solid tools... but will the plastic they are made of last 100 years or more like the Steel in my old Colts? I doubt it.

I own more Colts than any other brand in my collection... and I'll likely buy a few more before I'm done.
 
"The rest are just ugly junk guns like the Sigma, the Taurus 92FS look-alikes, the Springfield wannabes, and so on. "


You should try an XD before knocking it as a Glock clone. It's very unsimilar to a Glock, I own both and both have their advantages and disadvantages.

In fact, the XD resembles a Sig as much as a Glock with a splash of 1911 with a CZ75 Grip angle. They really are a beast unto their own. Now Sigma??? Wouldn't touch one.

Sean85746

You really should try a Ruger GP100 or SP101. I have had a couple of Colt's and some Smiths, but the Ruger hands down won my heart. The Colt was a tad slicker than Ruger but with the recessed cylinder where the Ruger was built for abuse. The Smith? Kind of somewhere in between....but without the trigger of either a Ruger or Colt.

Also, don't limit your friends HP abilities...remember a lot of countries use weapons made in their nation for their military service arms. You won't see a pair of ivory grips with deep bluing on service grade weapons. But you already knew that.
 
I wouldn't go so far as to call that snobbery. What you go for are good brands, even GREAT brands. But by no means are they the most espensive. Just because you're not frugal doesn't make you a snob either.
 
I am NOT a gun snob at ALL..........personally I would rather have my RELIABLE Hi-point than them jam'o'matic Kimbers. Its more fun to shoot than have alot of trouble with a nice looking pistol.

Finally, someone I can agree with. I'm not a snob, all my guns were purchased for less than $500. They all work and I carry them all. I do like good leather, though.

I am currently looking for a job that will allow me to become a snob.

Excuse me for awhile...I have to go run a search now to find out what a "Korth" is. :confused:
 
Snobbery

What, No Kasnars mentioned by anyone? Yeah, I like my Colt .45's, and Ruger revolvers, Taurus 9mm, Smith 622, Sig 9mm, ect, ect, ect. Gosh it is nice to have so many guns to pick from. :)
 
Interesting thread. I go for practical..with class. I wear a Rolex everyday. But, its a plain stainless 1970's vintage Oyster. No gold. But, its the best mechanical watch in my opinion.

I love blued staeel S&W revolvers. Walnut grips if possible.

I have a Berretta Essential OA. It was the cheapest high end shotgun I could find. I actually called Barretta and asked them how it was made and why its cheaper. Its the same gun, mechanicaly as their top of the line shotguns, except it has a bead blasted finish and plain American walnut stock. Nothing fancy, but, the function is as good as it gets. Thats whats important to me.

I carry a Chris Reeve Sebenza folding knife. Very understated knife. But, for me, the best folding knife I have ever owned.

Its the quality I crave. Not the price, though those two occasionally go together. Not gold, but stainless. Not engraved, but blued. Its pride of ownership. Knowing you have the best of the best, without being flashy or chrome plated.

Of course, these thoughts are best pondered with a properly shaken Bombay Sapphire Martini.
 
I guess I am more of a curmudgeon rather than "Sine Nobile". I like the Mod.27 S&W but I will not acquire a Glock. Why? I can't listen to any more Glock tales. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!! :banghead:
 
This thread is starting to crack me up ... admitting one is a fan of quality brands that one has significant experience with is one thing, but the folks who love to bash firearms that they have no experience with is another. I, admittedly, am a huge fan of Colt's, S & W, Wilson's, Les Baer, etc. -- but I also own some inexpensive guns which work very well for me. And I try not to say anything about any guns that I've never even fired ... For example, I've never used a Rossi, a Lorcin, or a High-Point -- so it's probably not a good idea for me to make a definitive statement about those makers.

Gotta wonder about those who would decrie those horrible "Taurus 92FS lookalikes and Springfield wannabes" as "ugly junk guns." Seems to me that both those companies make some reputable firearms (and I have some experience with Taurus and many years of experience with Springfield Armory). Statements about gun quality have more credibility coming from those who can document substantial experience as an owner of the gun makes in question.
 
Too true. I own some 'affordable' guns, including FEG's and Rugers.

But my Colts will always be worth more than I paid for them.
 
Glocks are good, solid tools... but will the plastic they are made of last 100 years or more like the Steel in my old Colts? I doubt it.

Not to start a big war but, Do you really plan on shooting a $500.00 gun in 100 years? I will more than likely have got my money worth in 10 years and will be dead in 100, so I don't understand that idea.

ps. The only plastic gun I have is an SA XD all others are metal
 
The point is I'm still shooting Colts made nearly 100 years ago.

Nice to leave something to the next generation, right?
 
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