Harrisburg, PA man killed in a home invasion

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Take note of several points in the articles:

  • He managed to retreat into the house; they broke down the door to gain access
  • He was shot between four and six times in the leg; he bleed to death from a wound to a major artery
  • Initial reports suggest the homeowner was armed himself, and managed to return fire
  • This does not appear random; rarely are home invasions random events
  • People are confused or engaged in self-delusion as to the safety of their neighborhood; one neighbor says "its an OK place . . . these things just happen", another reports 2 bars in the vicinity can make the place chaotic and people desperate

Patriot News link
Attackers kick in door, kill man
Harrisburg couple had run inside after altercation

Monday, December 11, 2006
BY DANIEL VICTOR
The Patriot-News

Two, maybe three, men kicked in the door of a south Harrisburg home early yesterday and shot a 52-year-old man four times with his wife in the room.

Police found Cung Ba Duong of the 500 block of South 19th Street covered in blood at 2:04 a.m., police said. Ba Duong's wife, whose name police did not release, was in the room but unharmed, police said.

Police Chief Charles Kellar said it was not clear whether the assailants knew Ba Duong, who died at Harrisburg Hospital shortly after the home invasion.

Kellar said it appears the attackers in Harrisburg's 11th homicide of the year confronted the couple as they were coming home.

"Apparently they met him outside. I guess they ran inside," Kellar said of the victim and his wife. "Somehow, [the attackers] kick the door in and got inside."

Kellar said at least two men were involved. He described them as light-skinned blacks or Hispanics. Based on information from Ba Duong's wife, there might have been a third attacker, Kellar said.

Investigators don't know the motive for the attack, he said.

"I guess a fight ensued and he was shot, four times," Kellar said. "It all went bad real quick."

Kellar said it was not clear where the couple had been. He said they might have been returning from a small business that they owned next door.

The business, which has a sign that reads "Huong Xua Vietnamese Restaurant," is unlisted in the phone book, and only a billiards table was visible inside last night.

Police have been to the restaurant before. In 2002, it was raided and Ba Duong was charged with maintaining illegal gambling devices. The disposition of the charges were not available last night.

The chief said there have not been other attacks reported in the neighborhood, which he said is generally quiet.

Christina, who lives across the street and declined to give her last name, said she didn't know Ba Duong. She said the area usually is friendly.

"It's an OK neighborhood," she said. "It's just something that happens."

A woman who said she has lived in the neighborhood for more than 15 years said she didn't know Ba Duong well but that he was friendly when they passed each other on the street. She said she was awakened by the shots.

"It's not every day" she sees violence in the area, she said, but added, "I'm not surprised."

While there have been other home invasions in the city, Kellar said this level of violence is unusual.

"This is out of the norm, and we are going to do the investigation and find out the reason," Kellar said. "Whether they knew him, we don't know that yet."

Kellar said that while area residents shouldn't panic over the attack, they need to be cautious.

"Always be aware of your surroundings," Kellar said. "If you see something suspicious, call police right away."

DANIEL VICTOR: 255-8144 or [email protected]


WGAL TV link

WGAL-TV
12:09 p.m. EST December 11, 2006
HARRISBURG, Pa. - A 53-year-old Harrisburg man was shot and killed during a robbery at his home early Sunday morning. Police said two or three gunmen forced their way into Cung Duong's home on South 19th Street, robbed him and shot him six times in the leg. One of those shots hit a major artery and Duong died shortly after being hit, according to Dauphin County Coroner Graham Hetrick.

Hetrick said Duong might have fired his own weapon back at the intruders. It's unclear if any of them were hit.

Duong's wife witnessed the shooting. Hetrick said she suffered some bruises from being held down during the shooting.

Hetrick also said the robbers left behind some money.

"There was money on the subject. So, oddly enough, you go in, you invade and then you shoot and then either because of the excitement of the moment maybe, they just left without taking the money that was on his person, which was a larger amount than most people would carry around on them," said Hetrick.

A neighbor, Richard Brooks, said Duong ran a pool hall next door to his home.

"He didn't seem like the type of guy that would have a lot of enemies. He had a lot of friends," said Brooks.

There have been no arrests.

City spokesman Randy King said Duong had faced illegal gambling charges several years ago.


CBS 21 TV link

link to TV news clip
Harrisburg police are looking for suspects after a break-in ends with one man dead.

Police say a group of men broke into a home early yesterday morning in the 500 block of South 19th Street. They say a woman told them her husband had been shot and was badly hurt.

That man, 52-year-old Cung Ba Duong, later died of his injuries.

People who live or work on South 19th Street say they've seen other crimes but never a cold-blooded killing.

Greg Clark:
“You got two bars in the neighborhood... A lot of chaos goes on... You got desperate people in the neighborhood. Its dark, so there's a lot that can go on here!”

Police say they're looking for a group of two or three men. Anyone with information should call Harrisburg police.
 
Not to be racist but...

Its worth noting that outside of the really bad parts of Philadelphia, Asian-Americans are preferred home-invasion targets.

It's PA--once you get out of the suburbs and cities, EVERYONE but the amish (who don't have much worth stealing) is fairly likely to shoot back, and many Asian immigrants carry with them a distrust of banking systems from their old countries. Asian-Americans are preffered because they are perceived as likely to have significant amounts of cash hidden in their residences.

Even moreso in this guy's case, with the off-the-books business and history of illegal gambling.
 
It's PA--once you get out of the suburbs and cities, EVERYONE but the amish (who don't have much worth stealing) is fairly likely to shoot back

True, but I'd ammend that to say that once you get out of Philly and its suburbs...here in western PA we are awash in guns; and I wouldn't have it any other way. Even in Pittsburgh itself, it is the work of only a few minutes to get a carry permit.

As for the OP, although I am not against gambling, when you get into illegal activity you are inevitably going to be associating with the dregs of society. That's why I'd legalize an awful lot of things.
 
True, but I'd ammend that to say that once you get out of Philly and its suburbs...here in western PA we are awash in guns; and I wouldn't have it any other way. Even in Pittsburgh itself, it is the work of only a few minutes to get a carry permit.

As for the OP, although I am not against gambling, when you get into illegal activity you are inevitably going to be associating with the dregs of society. That's why I'd legalize an awful lot of things.

+1
I'm a big anti-drug guy, but with the popularity of marijuana I think that if it were legalized and the gov't regulated it properly they'd be able to make enough to give taxpayers a little break...(semi-joking here, please be nice :uhoh: )
 
gameing is no game

Joe Demko:

Joe, my intuition on the legalization of gambling at least, is that, since it was swept into Pennsylvania by the gambling moguls in our election before the last one, the people of our state will soon be "reaping" the results of permitting such vice. Just for an example, consider Atlantic City. All the "jobs" and tax revenues, etc. do not compensate for the neighborhood crime, police corruption, family destruction, loss of taxpayers as a result of bankruptcy, and so on.

Legalization of drugs? Take a trip to the Nether-netherlands and see just what becomes of such a society. You wouldn't want your family to live there.
 
Legalization of drugs? Take a trip to the Nether-netherlands and see just what becomes of such a society. You wouldn't want your family to live there.

That's true. But I was specifically saying marijuana...And last time I was in Amsterdam one of the locals was telling me that it's not necessarily "legal" but it's "allowed?" Anyways, to my understanding it's just marijuana that is "legal" there, not the other stuff that the shady guys on the corners try to sell you...Also, being that it's not legal in the states, I still wouldn't want my family to live in any "red light" district in the US, or anywhere else. But like I said, it would need to be properly regulated...and I was semi joking. :)

And I agree with you on the gambling thing. But I think the AC environment is more of an example of New Jersey's poor and corrupt political system...Not trying to start a heated debate here, just voicing my opinion.
 
Legalization of drugs? Take a trip to the Nether-netherlands and see just what becomes of such a society. You wouldn't want your family to live there.

Um, I did actually. Saw a lot of positive things, as well. Drugs weren't a problem for the average person, and the Dutch as a society are very caring about children and the importance of family.

Now, as to the right to keep and bear arms issue on the other hand... I wouldn't want my family to live there.
 
Kellar said it appears the attackers in Harrisburg's 11th homicide of the year confronted the couple as they were coming home.

"Apparently they met him outside. I guess they ran inside," Kellar said of the victim and his wife. "Somehow, [the attackers] kick the door in and got inside."
Which is a good reason to always carry a gun (at least have one in the car) - it appears he had to run inside to arm himself. :(
 
TallPine said: Which is a good reason to always carry a gun (at least have one in the car) - it appears he had to run inside to arm himself.

Neither of us knows that for sure. Even if he did, guns don't solve problems, people do. It seems his lifestyle and occupation brought him into problems.
 
here in western PA we are awash in guns

Anyone who lives within a reasonable distance of I80 would be a fool not to have a gun. Wolf Creek Township is becoming the illegal immigrant arrest capital of the state. PSP out of the Mercer barracks are nailing them by the dozen.

As you can probably tell by the coordinates I am in close proximity to I80. I am heavily armed, as are all my neighbors. Neighbor came home from work not long ago and found a man sitting on her porch, said his car broke down and wanted to come inside and use the phone. There was no car in sight.
 
Police have been to the restaurant before. In 2002, it was raided and Ba Duong was charged with maintaining illegal gambling devices.
Wouldn't this have made the victim in this crime a felon unable to legaly defend themselves?

Also this highlights the importance of having your spouse or other family members trained in first aid at a minimum. Quick first aid treatment by the wife in applying a tourniquet prior to medical help arriving would have likely saved his life if he died from blood loss, something simple and understood by someone with basic first aid skills. Whether injuries from gunshots, car accidents, or outdoor accidents etc having those you spend large amounts of time with trained in first aid should be mandatory.

Also it is unfortunate he did not at least wound a suspect giving police better leads when returning fire.
 
As for the OP, although I am not against gambling, when you get into illegal activity you are inevitably going to be associating with the dregs of society. That's why I'd legalize an awful lot of things.

I wasn't making a moral judgement--I was just pointing out that he fit the home invasion victim profile very well.
 
Zoogster said: Wouldn't this have made the victim in this crime a felon unable to legaly defend themselves?


No. Why can a felon defend himself? What made you conclude he was a felon to begin with?

Police have been to the restaurant before. In 2002, it was raided and Ba Duong was charged with maintaining illegal gambling devices. The disposition of the charges were not available last night.

If he were found, or plead, guilty of that activity, it would be public record, and I'd hope a reporter could have found that out pretty easily.. You're jumping to quite a few conclusions awfully quickly.
 
No. Why can a felon defend himself?
Because they cannot legaly own the tool necessary to defend themselves from multiple gun wielding criminals as in this story.

What made you conclude he was a felon to begin with?
Hosting illegal gambling is both a state and a federal crime and a felony at the federal level, and a felony on many state levels. I however was assuming the charges the reporter chose to include held some water and that the reporter was not merely creating additional news, but that often is and may have been incorrect to assume.

I merely used this example to point at policies I think are detrimental to our society. 1. Non violent felon owning a business not felt to be a danger by society would legaly be unable to defend themself.
2. People not having proper training to perform basic first aid that can be learned in a short time increasing the possibility of death etc if those they spend the most time around are injured.

On the first point I think people we consider to be a threat should remain in prison, or if expected to be a member of society have all the rights of the rest of us after serving thier time (including parole etc)
On the second point I think that people need to be given the tools in life to be more self reliant in protecting themselves and loved ones. This includes at least medicore levels of basic first aid until better trained people can take over.
 
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TallPine said: Which is a good reason to always carry a gun (at least have one in the car) - it appears he had to run inside to arm himself.

Neither of us knows that for sure. Even if he did, guns don't solve problems, people do. It seems his lifestyle and occupation brought him into problems.

Regardless of the actual circumstances of the incident in discussion, the fact still remains that you can run into trouble upon returning to your home (sort of an answer to the question "why do you need to carry at X place?" ).

For instance, a year or so back, there was a rural Montana couple who returned home to find an escaped felon at their residence, waving around a .22 rifle and demanding to be given the "clip." The quick-thinking homeowner said something to the effect of "yeah, sure - don't shoot and I'll get it for you right away," and then returned from another room with a .38 revolver and shot the fugitive dead.
 
i just want everyone to know that parts of the new reports are inaccurate. With bac cung's wife not knowing english very well, during the translation of vietnamese to english,,vital information were not translated correctly. actually a lot of vital information were inaccurate in my opinion from hearing things on the news to hearing it from his wife's mouth.

the charges of him owning illegal gambling devices were dropped and that doesn't even connect to his murder at all because that was years back that that happened. personally i don't feel that his lifestyle and occupation had to do with anything involving his murder. the lifestyle that he chose to lead, yeah maybe it wasn't an honest lifestyle but trust me he didn't take advantage of the wealth he acquired. and i also don't understand how he fit the home invasion victim profile very well. The whole vietnamese community in harrisburg knew and loved him including me, he was one of the most caring people i've ever met, my dad and bac cung were best friends and he was like an uncle to me. there was absolutely no one that he wouldn't help. when homeless people hung around his use-to-be resturant he'd let them clean and do simple jobs and give them money. he also took in wild bird and fed them and even bought them $50 blankets so his wild bird wouldn't get cold over the winter. he also help dozens of vietnamese people escape from vietnam to thailand during the VN war by sailing them. does that sound like someone that would make ppl want to kill him. and the whole revenage scenario doesn't make sense to me at all. he is not someone that would do anything to piss anyone off.

i don't want anyone to reply this and say anything negative about my comment, this is just my rage and anger coming out of me b/c i was deeply hurt by his death and bac cung's image of when he smiled and greeted me hours before he died replays in my head over and over again. i was at his pool hall 3 hours before he died with my dad and i've been beating myself over and over again b/c i keep thinking what if i we all stayed longer than no one would try to kill him if we were right next door with all the lights on. i know there was probably nothing that we could have done but that doesn't stop me from feeling guilty.
 
sad news

I just found out last night what a bg Vietnamese population Harrisburg has (the wonders of Wikipedia); I'll be celebrating my birthday in about a week with a Vietnamese meal at a Harrisburg restaurant, actually.

I was worried that this might be the proprietor of the place my family usually enjoys, but I think that place (whose name I can't recall) is actually Pho Vietnam, a bit east of this one.

I hope the police nab these guys, fast.
 
"home invasion" this is not. it is a street brawl gone bad. this area is not a nice neighborhood, and is not a safe place. add in vietnamese and puerto ricans (likely), and you have a recipe for trouble. those of us living in the area know that ricans run the crack pipe from new york to baltimore/DC out of harrisburg and york. unfortunately, they are from a US territory, so the price of a plane ticket...natural selection, if you ask me.
 
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