Has anyone seen this yet? Semi-auto Ma Deuce?

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The real question is, who built it? Commercially there are basically three options: TNW, Allied Armament, or CWA. Having had the pleasure of meeting Ed, and reading the reviews of the CWA M3HB, the decision was pretty much a no-brainer.

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How much? I want one! :D

Edit: that's a lot of cash for something that shoots ~4 bucks a round :( Are there any belt semis available for less?
 
The cheapest I've seen belt-fed semi-autos for is about $5k, for a M2HB. Next cheapest was $7k for a .308 HK beltfed. You can get an 8mm beltfed "mg42" upper for your AR-15, about $4k.
 
well, that sucks... I'd have thought that the relative abundance of belt-fed mil-surp weapons kicking around these days might have given us a better price range (semi-auto PKMs, anyone?)... it seems strange that the American importers haven't jumped at the chance to snag a bunch of old communist GPMGs (or something similar) and offer them at a reasonable price. Heck, I'd happily pay 1000-1500 or so for the chance to own a nice semi-auto surplus weapon (AKA: Range Toy), and I'm sure they can be bought wholesale from the former Warsaw pact states for a heck of a lot less than that!
 
(semi-auto PKMs, anyone?)

Also available as a semi but start around the $5k price range. http://marcolmarfirearms.com/

the relative abundance of belt-fed mil-surp weapons kicking around these days might have given us a better price range

Even when they were more widely available an M2HB parts kit would run $3-4k. To make a semi out of one, there's one heck of a lot of work to redesign it as a closed bolt semi, redesign the receiver, get approvals from BATFE, buy enough kits at one time to ensure enough stock to make the venture worthwhile, fabricate custom parts, pay for lawyers, insurance (and plenty of it, especially for a .50), licenses, etc. When it comes to imported weapons like the PKM, you now have a barrel ban to overcome, which requires even more custom parts be designed and built (and even before the barrel ban, a PKM parts kit alone used to run about $1200-1500). They're expensive for a reason - theres a lot more that goes into making one than most people think, and the people that can actually pull it off aren't devoting a year or two to a project like that without expecting a little profit for their trouble.
 
Wish I had the money for a .50, I have a semi-1919 in A6 configuration (bipod, buttstock and carry handle). Old Israeli Browning in 7.62 Nato.

Very fun to shoot, built it myself.

1.Kit- $400
2. Semi auto right side plate $125
3. Machine work $100
4. Rivets-$25
5. Links, belts, AA tripod, A6 kit, $300
6. Spare barrel and misc small parts $150
7. Ammo....$$$$:eek:

All told, about $1100 or so invested, in 2004 dollars, all this stuff is still available and is a can do project, but more pricey nowadays.

Only Photo I have of my "baby"...with some other toys:D

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Atlantic Firearms (same company in top link) is also selling the semi 1919A4 for around $1150 or so, which is not much. It is belt fed. I would say you will want the tripod for it, which puts the price up to aroudn $1700. (Going from memory, all the exact #s can be found on Atlantic's website.)
 
By semi pgeleven meant that even M2's can be fired in semi even though they're full auto. On the spade grips of a FA M2 there's a bar that can be locked down so that it only shoots semi.

The civilian version of the M2 has no need for it and that's why you don't see it on the M2 in Wes's picture.;)
 
The .50 is too cool but I can't even afford to feed my 1919 with the crankfire on it. I would hate to think what an afternoon with the M-2 would cost. :eek:

My little .30, much cheaper than the .50 but still almost 3K with gun and accessories.
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I looked into the M2 but ammo costs are so high I stuck with a bolt gun. I went with a 1919 in .308 instead. $20,000 for a full auto side plate seemed a bit expensive so I just built a crank. The link below is a video of it eating 21 rounds in about 3 seconds.
:D:D:D:D:DThat was sweet!:p
 
the fact its a semi auto suprises you (they all are)
Huh? Check your facts...

The M2 is a single-shot, kind of. It has a bolt catch that locks the bolt open after each and every shot. There is a button just beneath the butterfly-shaped trigger that is depressed to release the bolt so that is closes on a new round.

Automatic fire is achieved through a hook thingy (can't remember what it's called) that simply holds the bolt catch down so that it doesn't catch the bolt. The above picture of the rear-end of an M2 is too dark to see the bolt catch button. Or, maybe it's not even there, as a poster above has suggested
 
I'm familiar with the M2, I was just questioning referring to it as a semi-auto. Sort of like saying all M16's are semi-autos :scrutiny:
 
Atlantic Firearms (same company in top link) is also selling the semi 1919A4 for around $1150 or so, which is not much. It is belt fed. I would say you will want the tripod for it, which puts the price up to aroudn $1700. (Going from memory, all the exact #s can be found on Atlantic's website.)

Again though, the question is, who's making the gun? Like the .50, there are several different companies commercially producing semi-auto Browning belt-feds, and they tend to have varying levels of fit and finish. If you're going to drop money on a belt-fed, it's extremely wise to do some research and make sure you know exactly what you're getting. There is most definitely an added level of complexity and hazard associated with beltfeds that must be understood and addressed by the owner. People who fail to do so wind up on Youtube.
 
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