has the old 30/30 died or dying?

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My Westernfield M72 in .30-30 is a fun lever action to shoot but doesn't see as many rounds as my other rifles. Will I get rid of it? No, it is the only lever action currently in my collection (and yes I kick myself everytime I think of the only other lever action I had that I sold back in the early 90's. It was a Browning lever action (BLR) in .308 that fed from a box magazine).
 
Maj Dad said:
Rifle magazine featured the new Remlins in the latest issue, and the author (don't have it handy) opined that quality was indeed improving, and the engineers and top brass were diligently trying to get it back to its original fit and finish. New tooling, better attention to detail, etc., etc. I hope they do, because I wouldn't mind being able to pick up a new M39 (or a 336W in a retro 38-55 cowboy shooter version :eek:) that equaled the old ones... :cool:
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Did that positive review happen to appear next to a full page ad from said company? I have zero belief in any review where a company's buying advertising in that magazine.
 
I have a few 30-30's, even a couple Savage 340's. The ONLY ammo that never left the Wallyworld shelves for more than a day was 30-30 170 grain CorLokt. THAT says a lot around here. And about 1/2 the hunters going out on opening day (resident only) are carrying the 30-30. Best thing for a 50 yard brush gun ever invented IMHO. Dead???? Yeah right.:rolleyes:
 
A quick look at Midway's ammo selection show's only 8 cartridges have more avaliable loadings than the 30/30 and none of them are under 50 years.
.223/5.56, 243, 270, 308, 7 mag, 30-06, 300 win and 375 H&H.

I believe our ammo supply for the 30/30 is safe.
 
Some things are timeless............. A Win 94 in 30-30 cal is one of those timeless weapons.

Just think of all the different animals that have been harvested using 30-30 ammo over the years.

Sure there are other cals to be had but all things being equal, it can and still does get the job done.
 
The 30/30 will always be around because it works. Yes the 600 yard bean field shot is a risky attempt, but for under 150 yrds even with the blade factory sights, it is good enough to get game and have fun. With a peep sight, I would push that to 200 yrds easily.

I like my 30/30's for their accuracy and the fact that they down beat you up shooting them. Here is 50 shots off the bench at 100 yrds.

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For 50 shots it has more scatter than a bolt gun, but it is within the size of a rabbit to coyote and easily in the kill zone of a deer. The 30/30 just gets the job done if you get the job done as the hunter. Not with a lot of fanfare but it is done. That is the difference between the 30/30 and say some short magnum.
 
I can't imagine life without a few .30-30's. I have a nice 1956 Winchester 94 and a Marlin 336TK, 336LTS, and 336TS right now. I love them all and especially like to take them hunting.

I will be buying brass and bullets for the .30-30 as long as I am around.....
 
If ammo availability is any indicator them the 30-30 is alive and well. Try finding 30-30 ammo directly before or during deer season. There are just too many 30-30 rifles out there for this cartridge to go quietly.
 
Aside from the millions of rifles out there chambered for it and the fact that probably 15-20 major manufacturer's still chamber guns in 30-30...... Its definitely obsolete and worthless....:rolleyes: (Please read the sarcasm).
 
The only thing hurting the 30-30 right now is the fads in the gun world. Trends come and go, so when a lever gun resurgence comes around that round will gain ground back quickly. There's not much more American than a 30-30 (either one) over the shoulder of a flannel shirt with a SAA or 1911 on the hip next to a fixed blade Buck or Case.
The round is far from dead, it's just letting the AR rounds get a little glory while it rests in the background a bit.
 
Jackal forgot a word

And that word is "temporarily" sorry jackal but 300 has nothing going for it to keep it alive. No military contracts, no magical niche filled that hasn't been filled before. Once the AR fad dies a bit 300 AAC BLK will be a distant memory to whatever supplants it. 30-30 has been around far too long to be forgotten.
 
And that word is "temporarily" sorry jackal but 300 has nothing going for it to keep it alive. No military contracts, no magical niche filled that hasn't been filled before. Once the AR fad dies a bit 300 AAC BLK will be a distant memory to whatever supplants it. 30-30 has been around far too long to be forgotten.
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Joke dude, that was thick sarcasm in my post. :)
 
sorry jackal but 300 has nothing going for it to keep it alive.
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The 300blk isn't going anywhere either, ARs stuff is again plentiful and cheap and as long as there's a good supply of 5.56 brass and 30 cal bullets the Blackout will keep going.
 
I am not at all an AR guy. I have one and it is fun to shoot, but that is kind of where it ends for me. Having said that, it seems the .300 BLK is the best of the lot for trying to up the power in the standard AR platform. I also like the 6.8, but it seems so much easier to make .300 BLK. I will still stick to my .30-30's for closer range hunting, but it looks like you AR guys have a pretty good round as well.
 
Welllllll....

We mostly ALL seem to be in agreement about the ol' "tried and true" .30/30... and let's face it, it does "get-the-job-done" for most of us to use for hunting deer and, to top it off, the .30/30 in the Winchester 94 or even the Marlin 336 and their "clones" are still extremely popular with a vast number of once-a-year hunters and even with some pretty "savy" fellas who just plain "love" the old lever-rifles.

I guess it's mostly a matter of... "If'n it ain't broke, don't fix it", eh? The .30/30 gets-the-job-done... 'nuff said! :)


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IIRC the 30-30 was originally a BP cartridge necked down to 30 caliber. Thing is, weapons are still manufactured for 30-30. The gunshops in this area all have at least one chambered for the old cartridge, I'm told the pawnshops very rarely have one.

To me that says the new ones are being bought or the manufacturers and the retailers wouldn't bother, the old ones are being kept or the pawnshops and classifieds would be loaded with them. Now I'm no expert on sales but this seems to me to be pretty healthy activity for a product on it's death bed.
 
The mindset today seems to have something that throws a bullet out at a speed that even Superman can't achieve. Cartridges near capable of this seem to die off only to be replaced by another go fast that dies off too. The 30-30 is simply about as good a whitetail getter as there is in the Easter and Southern dense forests and it doesn't tear up excess meat. It and the 30-06 will be around after we are all long gone.
 
Lets face the truth: The .22lr has been used since the late 1800's to kill deer (whether legally/ethically or not is not up to me and doesnt matter so long as the animal is in the soup pot). I think the 30-30 can still manage.:)
 
lol jackal and guys this is great well one thing for sure is the deer hasn't changed since the 30/30 came out so I guess it still can do the job :)
 
I own a Marlin .30-30, and I don't even hunt. It seems that almost every shooter I know owns at least one.

I know quite a few deer hunters, and while it's not legal in IL, they hunt in other states with their .30-30s and do just fine each year.
 
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