Have fanboys ruined a gun for you?

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What's your problem with the AR? It is the best gun there is. I get sick of everyone using the AR to highlight some BS point that has 0 validity...

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You know, it works the other way around too. I had a thread about Lorcin's / Bryco and stuff and people couldn't stop crapping on them for 2 seconds... There are some folks in the world were logic just doesn't compute. They see things their way and it is doubly bad in the world of gun aficionados. Everyone thinks they know it all (or most of it) and every one else knows bumpkiss.

So it goes both ways actually! The best way to handle it, is bum free parts from him or make them do all the customizing work... ;)
 
Yes, I was going to start with an AR but I found to much brand obsession LaRue mounts, noveske flash hiders, YHM sights, magpul furniture, one brand lower, a different upper. It was all too much that I didn't want to deal with. So currently I'm saving for up for an evil black rifle that isn't an AR. Be it the ACR, SCAR, or if I decide to plasti coat my K31! (not really).

I will admit to being a big fan of CZ products but I try not to be blind. I am suspicious of their shotguns. But I really try not to be too disparaging of another product.
 
It takes a lot to ruin a gun for me - can't say as fanboys could manage that.

Glock fans can be pretty vocal but it didn't bother me during the time I had a Glock - there's always the "just don't click on the thread" option when it gets too thick.

A minority of Colt SAA fans tend to restate the obvious in a manner that amuses me but doesn't bother me and it certainly doesn't keep me from owning Colt products. Still, I'll never be caught saying "only Colt is Colt" unless, of course, someone asserts that it isn't. Since no one has ever claimed that Colt wasn't Colt it seems pointless, albeit harmless, to state that "only Colt is Colt" again and again and ...

My current fascination is older revolvers. As much as I like the things I've seen some very imaginitive reasons offered by their fans for why they might be superior to alternatives, many of which would make me blush if I had to repeat them in public. "Reliably discharging multiple rounds from one's pocket" heads the list of stuff that I would shudder to have my name associated with. One presumes that's the gunnie-endorsed version of the "spray fire from the hip while setting oneself on fire" canard.

But fanboys or the lack thereof don't impact my purchase decisions.
 
"Reliably discharging multiple rounds from one's pocket" heads the list of stuff that I would shudder to have my name associated with. One presumes that's the gunnie-endorsed version of the "spray fire from the hip while setting oneself on fire" canard.
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No, that's the principle that if approached by a potential threat, you can keep your hand in your pockets where the weapon resides. It's a tactic that's been discussed in both LE and civilian circles for decades. It's for point blank social encounters where such a tactic can be effective.
 
Well, I don't know much about the "fanbois", but here are a few things I have learned on the forums lately.

1. If you shove your Glock and your Beretta in the mud at the bottom of the swamp, your Glock will still work and your Beretta won't. (Valuable information if you plan on spending time in the mud with your gun.)

2. If you're considering a Beretta CX4, you should immediately wipe that thought from your mind and buy a Hi-Point carbine. (If you put it in an aftermarket stock and don't get close to anyone, they won't know the difference.)

3. A .45 1911 has the best "knock-down" of any carry gun and it has remained relatively unchanged since it was put on the market. (I think there must be different degrees of "dead"...there's your regular dead, then there's dead w/knocked-down.)

4. A Sig is hands down the best handgun in the world at this time...it is perfect. (Since I'm picky, I guess I'm going to have to buy one...oh wait, I already did that yesterday.)

5. If you want an AK47, you should buy a Saiga and convert it yourself. (It just isn't an AK47 without the cyrillic name on the receiver.)

6. Bullets are afraid of Chuck Norris.

7. Depending on whether your revolver holds 5 shots or 6, you only ever need either 5 or 6 shots in a defense scenario. (Hi-capacity mags are obviously just a marketing gimmick.)

8. Mall Ninjas are funny.

9. The 7' by 20' display case at Wal-Mart that is completely packed with ammo of various calibers DOES NOT qualify as an "ammo stockpile" even if you bought the whole thing. (Of course, you could buy out 2 Wal-Marts and then you may be "gettin' there".)

10. Having your CCW "print" is as serious today as VPL's were in the 70's. (Of course, with your "panties" sticking completely out of the top of your jeans these days, VPL's are now a non-issue.)

11. The best caliber for bear is .0ChuckNorris +P.
 
A buddy of mine is an HK USP fan boy. He got into guns three years ago and now he talks like he's Wyatt Earp, wears HK hats and AR15 T-shirts.

He has no military exp, no LE exp, and has never even been hunting. When we went shooting, I outshot him with my Glock21, which he found baffling b/c after all he has an HK and I have a Glock. :cool:

He's a nice guy, but he tries to compensate for his lack of exp by spending WAY too much time online.

He actually soured me on USP's, though I have a renewed interest in the HK45.
 
No, that's the principle that if approached by a potential threat, you can keep your hand in your pockets where the weapon resides. It's a tactic that's been discussed in both LE and civilian circles for decades. It's for point blank social encounters where such a tactic can be effective.
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Nope. That's way too simple and straightforward.

The threads are claiming that the revolver is superior because it can do so again, and again and again ... in preference to pulling it out of your pocket.

The semi can get off one round. The claim implies an extended firefight with the barrel/cylinder gap blast in the immediate vicinity of the family jewels.
 
Not neccessarly a specific gun, but I was spending some time on a survival/preparidness website.

I'm not really planning on the world going all Mad-Max anytime soon, but I thought it might be good to get some pointers on different things I could do in the event of a short term emergancy.

Some of the guys there, and one bozo in particular were so obnoxious that it just got boring to go there. Many of them acted as if you were a complete bithering idiot if you didn't have a built in generator and food supplies for 30 years. This one guy claimed to have secret caches of weapons and supplies hidden all over the planet. He could hit a squirl in the eye at 200 yards with a M-1 carbine. And the best was that he could clear out of his appartment with enough supplies to survive outside indefinatley in less than 30 seconds....at any time. Always.

Then he accidently let it slip that he was unemployed. So basically he is a survivalist-ninja.

Anyway, my interest in the subject was duly quashed and I went fact finding elsewhere.
 
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The threads are claiming that the revolver is superior because it can do so again, and again and again ... in preference to pulling it out of your pocket.

The semi can get off one round. The claim implies an extended firefight with the barrel/cylinder gap blast in the immediate vicinity of the family jewels.
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That goes back to who is offering the advice. More than a few experienced instructors have stated this capability is one of the reasons the snub-nosed revolver has an advantage over autoloaders as a back up weapon.
 
What about the other side of the coin? What about the gun snobs that considers themselves to be experts in firearms and will bash any gun simply because they don't like it's looks or they think it's a piece of junk because of it's low price even though they haven't had any experience with it, they're basing their comments on assumptions?

I find the comments of the gun snobs to be just as inaccurate, irrating and nauseating as you do the so called fanboys.
 
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That goes back to who is offering the advice. More than a few experienced instructors have stated this capability is one of the reasons the snub-nosed revolver has an advantage over autoloaders as a back up weapon.
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It's the one's noting the capability for multiple rounds as an advantage that amuse me. If you're going to empty the cylinder it's fair to assume you're better off drawing the thing and maybe even aiming it.

Bogus advantage.

It's a difference but not one I personally could ever expouse as an advantage with a straight face. It's revolver fanboy-dom.

Edited to add: we should probably take this to the "handguns general" section or "revolvers" - I can pretty much guarantee we won't have to wait long to see it again.
 
I know what you mean. The internet is full of people like that. For a while I felt bad about buying a mini-14. I was asking questions about .223 ammo on some forum and the ar guys started bashing me for whatever reason....
After a while of reading their rants, I felt like I made a huge mistake in buying that mini (it was the target model). But after putting countless rounds through it I feel better about it. I really love the gun now. It shoots well enough for me, got a one and a half inch group yesterday but I credit that to luck. What people should do is be more supportive and at least nice to others. People just bash others to make them feel better about themselves and that really leads to nowhere. I am here for advice, isn’t that why a lot of us are here for anyway??
 
I don't care what either the FanBoys or the Haters say about a particular gun/platform. I buy and shoot what I like.

If people ask my opinion, I'll give it; but I freely admit that no gun is perfect for everyone.
 
I don't care what either the FanBoys or the Haters say about a particular gun/platform. I buy and shoot what I like.

If people ask my opinion, I'll give it; but I freely admit that no gun is perfect for everyone.
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Chipperman, you wrote almost exactly what my dear old departed Dad used to say. Them's words to live by sir.
 
The tactical rail obsession has certainly ruined a few guns for me, many an AR looks to be infested with a particularly nasty form of the 1913 Picatinny wart virus.
 
You've got to care what they think to let it ruin anything for you.

It's usually pretty easy to see when someone is a fanatic and can safely be ignored.
 
I had the same problem with fanboys when I wanted to buy a 1911. Every time I spoke to someone about it I got a totally different answer and they all said the last guy didn't know anything. Even after I decided on what worked for me, I got people telling me I should have done this or that or bought this part or swapped this for that. I think the fanboys just make it harder to gain factual information about that weapon because so much of their information is based on how they feel about what they have or want.
 
And pray, what else would we do for entertainment without these guys?

If the archives of THR were stripped of all the inane "this gun vs that gun" and "this ammo, vs that ammo" it would probably fit on one CD :neener::neener::neener:
 
I wonder what causes it at the most general level. Psychological projection? Do people with different preferences and opinions cause them a severe form of cognitive dissonance or something?

Sometimes you feel reluctant to contribute to conversations when you know even your most mundane statements of preference will generate a snide comment from someone. It's like being put on the spot to defend why red is your favorite color.
 
I do understand!

My partner, after years of competitive martial arts, and a younger life lived with, un, enthusiasm, is having to cope with aggressive arthritis in her hands and feet. Her pet 1911's are occasionally impossible for her to fire, much less rack the slide.

I've decided to go with older Mini-14's with the 1-in-7 twist that Ruger still fully supports as something she can operate on even the worst of days, should the need ever arise - and her enthusiasm for shooting is rekindling!

Fanbois?

I'd give em cyberspace cooties and have 'em worrying if it was in the water!

It's taken me no little time, but there's actually a few men I consider friends, who I only know from this forum! Counting IRL, that is still less than fingers + toes, but it's a start (okay, probably more than enough. . .).

"Why would you consider paying $2000 for a .223!!?

Because she can operate it, unlike AR variants - and she likes the design (more than just a skin-deep thing, trust me).

HK vs 1911 vs Glock? I have to fight the gag reflex from the juvenile testosterone poisoning. (I do own one of each, btw).

Taking a break from the forums after you've figured out where to get some sane and sensible information to be able to draw your own, reasonably informed decisions can do wonders.

We have outstanding individuals here on THR, and some are easy to spot by their "Join Date" and location. Use the search function and research past posts. It'll take a few hours, but the discovery of clear, factual information without hype is wonderful.

Gunshop fanbois? Range fanbois?

((((sigh))))

Good luck.
 
I am so glad my beloved Hi-point carbine got mentioned twice in this thread.Last time at the range I was up against a Beretta Storm, he was about 30, I'm 70 with diabetes and the tremors that come with it.I shot consistant 3" groups at 50 yds, off hand. He shot 5" groups. I know my carbine is inexpensively made, with the only steel in it where absolutely necessary. The barrel, firing pin, bolt face and the mag release assembly, the rest is either ZAMAK3 or some cheap polymer, it has been ATI'd and has a built-in laser zeroed to 50 yds, I have $350 invested, tax and all. If I shoot the barrel out, very unlikely Hi-point will replace it for as long as I live...
 
And just to clarify - she's interested in the STG 556 later (I realize the thought of a blonde paying $2k for a used Mini-14 might be stereotypical! Just to nip that laugh in the bud!)
 
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