Help me choose a .22 that is NOT a Ruger 10/22.

[Gewehr98]

If you can find one, since importation has stopped...

The Izmash Biathlon Basic toggle-bolt was very affordable, and has garnered something of a reputation as a tack-driver. I know for a fact that this one is:

 

[Cueball]

I would say go for the CZ-452. I got my Tranier/Special new for under $240 and it has been a tack driver out of the box. A great rifle and a great value.

 

[No_Brakes23]

Since they appear to have fixed the problem with the magazines, I am gonna get a Remington 597.

I'm going for the $240 Stainless one, but the base model is about $160 IIRC.

 

[.45Guy]

Marlin/Glenfield 25

 

[belton-deer-hunter]

just me but

yall pay way to much for you guns
at acedmy sports and outdoors there is ussaly a rossi single shot .22lr with a .410 barrel (which is jsut gravy) for like 119 dollars my grandpa go one a while back good little gus tough as dickens and you never have to clean a single shot (not lot of working parts) but that is jsut my idea

 

[deadly50bmg]

Rack up one more vote for the CZ452

 

[goon]

No choice necessary - CZ-452.

 

[brickboy240]

I bought an early 50s Remington 511 bolt action from a pawn shop for 69.95 about 4 years ago. This is the one with a 6-shot detatchable clip.

It is tack-hammer accurate. So accurate that I sold my 10-22 and never looked back.

Actually, I have a "thang" for early American 22 rimfires. Pumps, semi-autos, lever actions, bolt actions..I have several and love them. You already have one of the best rimfires out there (the Marlin 39), but if you want a nice bolt action, I suggest any of the earlier Remingtons or maybe an early Mossberg or Savage/Stevens. The US rifle makers made some really nice 22s in the 40s, 50s and 60s.

The Stevens Favorite is also an excellent suggestion.

- Brickboy240

 

[hksw]

yall pay way to much for you guns
at acedmy sports and outdoors there is ussaly a rossi single shot .22lr with a .410 barrel (which is jsut gravy) for like 119 dollars my grandpa go one a while back good little gus tough as dickens and you never have to clean a single shot (not lot of working parts) but that is jsut my idea

But can it shoot ½" (or less) 5 shot groups at 50 yds?

Col. Townsend Whelen - "Only accurate rifles are interesting."

 

[belton-deer-hunter]

it will...

with the right person behind it and i dont know an animal one that will have a kill zone "1/2" inche jsut me and the rossi's have a big varity of acsseriores that you can add (scope rails etc.) any way with all said and done can your cz fire a .410 shotgun slug or even a regularer shell i think that those are great rifles that have a good accuracy and are great for first time shooters i my self started out with a nef pardner like 69 dollars a expensive gun is not the only good gun you jsut have to know how to usee it my mossberg has out preformed two 870's in both accuracy and in quilty we went to the trap range adn the results speak for them selves (mossberg fired by me 18/25, 870 fired by friend eric 14/25, mossber fired by friend woody 21/25) plus 870 jammed litterly every other shot we would have to stop and clear it price isnt all there is in a gun

 

[halvey]

There are many old .22's sitting in gun and pawn shops just waiting for a little TLC. Many can be had for under $50. I'd look for the Marlin's or the JC Higgins, which most were made my Marlin anyway.

 

[Dave Dembinski]

price isnt all there is in a gun

That's the truth. I get pretty tired of coming in to .22 rifle threads and seeing nothing but CZ 452, but they ARE very good guns for the price. They're just not in the same class as the Rossis or NEFs you're talking about, both price-wise andin quality of design and manufacture. I had one and, really, it didn't shoot any better than a Savage or a Marlin or what have you in my hands. I'm just not good enough to take advantage of it, and I don't figure most beginning shooters would be, either.

There's something to be said for getting a decent rifle cheaply with enough money left over for buckets and buckets of ammo to practice with. Go to Walmart and check out the Savage Mark IIs they have, OP. You should be able to come in under $200 no problem.

 

[GunGoBoom]

at acedmy sports and outdoors there is ussaly a rossi single shot .22lr with a .410 barrel (which is jsut gravy) for like 119 dollars my grandpa go one a while back good little gus tough as dickens and you never have to clean a single shot (not lot of working parts) but that is jsut my idea

I've got that same Rossi S.S. .22, which came with a 20 ga bbl in my case, purchased at a gun show. It is my dedicated rimfire rifle for Aguila super colibri .22 rounds. It's wearing a Bushnell Banner 1-4x32mm. Does the job fine. That combo cost me $135. I've paid anywhere from $80 for a used Mossy, all the way up to $289 plus tax for the Biathlon Basic, for .22s.

 

[Red Tornado]

You've got several great suggestions. For what you want to spend, I'm partial the the Romanian M69 Trainer and the Remington 511, both mentioned above.

The M69 has flip sights for 25, 50, and 100 meters which makes adjustment a snap. Also I found the cheapest airgun scope at Wal-Mart will fit the rail on the M69. (I think it's BSA...it's like $8 and has rings attached. I bought it to play with on a pellet gun, but just for fun discovered it fits the M69.)

The early Remington's just feel right to me, but YMMV.

Check used gunstores and see what feels right as Halvey suggested.
RT

Is anybody else getting a sense of deja vu reading this thread? Have I been here before and said the same thing.....?

 

[hksw]

it will...

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with the right person behind it and i dont know an animal one that will have a kill zone "1/2" inche jsut me and the rossi's ...

Wow. It's a wonder the weekend benchrest guys haven't heard of these magnificent feats by the lowly Rossi. Of the three I've seen and two that I've shot, none would go under 1.5" at 50 yds which include lower end target (but not match) ammo, i.e. Green Tag. (This was pre-.17. Don't know how they shoot.)

 

[JustsayMo]

The CZ is all things considered one of the best rimfire deals going. If you wish to spend less, the Marlin and Savage bolt guns are highly recommended. They too can be very accurate. They just don't have nice triggers, nor quite the fit n finish of more expensive rifles.

Well said. That is my experience as well. Once I got a CZ all my other bolt rimfires were expendable.

 

[kentucky_smith]

because of this thread, I drove 45 minutes to Bud's gunshop and traded my 10/22 for a 452 Lux .22.

Gun was marked $229, and I let the 10/22 go cheap at 100, but boy this gun sure is purty.

It better drive tacks or it is all you guys' fault!

 

[Stauble]

id recommend a henry.22
its a lever action, but ive had alot of fun with mine
they r very reasonably priced at under 200$

 

[JustsayMo]

I don't reckon you'll regret purchacing the CZ. Mine shoots VERY well with Aquila SE subsonic. Literally one hole groups at 50 yards. At 100 yards I've had better luck with high or standard velocity stuff.

Test a box worth or two everytime out. You'll find what it likes and you too will be recruiting newbies to CZ in rimfire forums. The big grin is a common side effect common to CZ shooters. The only frowns I've seen happen imediately after someone discovers they are out of ammo to feed the CZ...

Go over to rimfire central (dot com) to the CZ forum. Learn about Brookies trigger kit. It makes a good trigger even better.

Warning: If you buy a CZ scout for your kid, you might as well buy two cuz you'll want one of your own. It'll save you another trip back to the gun store and you might work a better deal. I've witnessed this phenomenon twice and heard about it several other times. Trust me, CZ's are addictive.

 

[cslinger]

Kentucky Smith,

My 452 will shoot any 40 grain ammo extremely well. If for some reason you get inconsistant results check to make sure the stock isn't rubbing the barrel up around the forearm. Sometimes a little sanding might be necessary as some of these stocks don't seem to be inletted enough from the factory.

Other than that I think you will be pleasantly surprised and if your 10/22 was bone stock I think you will be blown away.

Chris

 

[Dollar An Hour]

What is it that makes a CZ 452 (or any other CZ) inherently more accurate than the Marlins, Savages, etc?

Is it the materials used or the method of construction or what?

After thinking I wanted a semiauto, I'm thinking I need a 452 now, seriously.

 

[StrikeEagle]

There are many old .22's sitting in gun and pawn shops just waiting for a little TLC. Many can be had for under $50.

This is exactly the advice I was going to offer. Make the rounds, and I'm sure you'll find some very servicable rifles for cheap that will meet your needs.

StrikeEagle

 

[The Real Hawkeye]

I recommend the Taurus Model 63. It is a faithful reproduction of John Browning's original design for Winchester Arms. Great little dandy of a semi auto .22. A real joy and a classic. You will love it. You can pick up a new one for about $225.

 

[JustsayMo]

What is it that makes a CZ 452 (or any other CZ) inherently more accurate than the Marlins, Savages, etc?

The biggest difference is probably the trigger.

The CZ's overal quality is a notch higher too. To find an equal one must spend twice (or more) as much. I love my Marlins, but the CZ is a better gun.

 

[BaiscInfantry]

Rem 700

I don't know about you guys but a fluted, free float, and glassed Remy 700 with a 960 dollar bushnell scope and 100 a piece swiss rings.........850 yards..dead on.