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Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by TexasPatriot.308, May 15, 2020.

  1. TexasPatriot.308

    TexasPatriot.308 Member

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    Ammo shortages again...Im a 66 year old ex grunt. Times are crazy, ammo shortages again. For me my basics in long rifle are .308, .223 and .22. In pistols .45 auto, .357 mag and .22/.22 mag. Every evening I hear morons blasting away and wasting ammo. What you old timers, and even new vets think?
     
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    I don't think new rounds like the .224 Valkyrie and the various 6.5 rounds are gonna last you long in a firefight.
     
  3. MarshallDodge

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    Why?
     
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  4. Bfh_auto

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    Because ammo doesn't work well for fighting fires. ;)
     
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    Morons? Some of us stacked it deep when it was cheap -- 2 long months ago.
     
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  6. Arkansas Paul

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    If they have prepared sufficiently to continue their shooting habits, even when the majority of people are in a state of panic buying and ammo can't be found on shelves, they don't sound like morons to me.
    They sound prepared.
     
  7. TexasPatriot.308

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    I said the people blasting away pissing off ammo are morons....or maybe just got lots of money and access to ammo.
     
  8. wild willy

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    LOL I'll let it go at that but I think a lot of my fellow morons know what I mean.
     
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  9. Ernie Bass

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    Dang, all that money I have spent on purchasing ammo could have been used for Beer. (not to mention on fine Whiskey and Cigars) Maybe I am a Moron.
     
  10. DDDWho

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    I bought 300 AAC BO last fall for 40 cents per. Same seller, same ammo is now 80 CPR
     
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  11. EIB0879

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    Ammo I have. A place to shoot right now, I don't.
     
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    I don't see where that makes them morons. Sound pretty smart to me.
     
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    The recent ammo shortage is about over. I can go online and order just about anything. The local gun shops have ammo on the shelves. Now prices are up a little. Three weeks ago Federal 5.56 840 round can of ammo was selling for just over $400. I saw it yesterday for right at $360.
    I still have 8,000 rounds of 5.56 ammo in my stash. As soon as prices are back down, I plan to buy more.
    I was able to find some 7.92x33 for 0.70 cents a round the other week. That 0.10 cents cheaper then the last time I bought it. I ordered 100 rounds. Oh! This is just going to be blasting ammo.
     
  14. jmorris

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    Sounds like freedom to me. At least I'm not subsidizing it like many other projects the Government has implemented that I don't agree with but have to pay for...count your blessings.
     
  15. marksman13

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    First, maybe you should have bought more ammo while it was cheap and plentiful.

    Second, how do you know these “morons” are pissing off ammo? Unless you are standing there watching them fire rounds into the dirt for no reason other than making a joyful noise, you don’t know that they are wasting ammo. If they are wasting it, well, this is still America. Let freedom ring.

    Third, I fail to see how your first points are connected at all to the belief that newer cartridges will not last long in a firefight. Are you suggesting that there is not enough ammo in the supply chain to supplement a combat unit in a sustained, prolonged engagement? Perhaps you are correct, but that statement would apply to very danged few people on this message board. Most consumers can source enough ammo of any sort to satisfy their needs if they look around. The ammo shortages that come and go only affect those whom can not or do not prepare for their inevitability.
     
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  16. Wildbillz

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    I fire some, pickup my spent casings and bring them back to the reloading bench. Reload them and do it all over again. Last few shortages have not affected me much.

    WB
     
  17. MarshallDodge

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    You still didn't answer my question but I'll play.

    Maybe this is another one of those rants against anything that's new or are you jealous of those that have planned ahead and can enjoy the shooting sports during this time?

    This "moron" hasn't stopped enjoying the shooting sport during this time. Every weekend I go out and shoot some of the ammo that I enjoy, pick up my brass, and go home to make more. Tomorrow I will be shooting my 223 and 6X47 Lapua and doing the same.

    For the last 30 years I have been setting aside a little of my budget for reloading components. The components are treated as a savings account, buying a little extra here and there. Reloading to me is like a part time job but the reality is, I enjoy playing with different recipes and when the loads turn into teenie groups on paper or steel, it puts a smile on my face.

    But maybe it's a maturity thing. Getting on a forum and ranting at the clouds about someone enjoying their guns in a new caliber, or name calling, seems a bit immature to me.
     
  18. ECVMatt

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    Well I am in the buy it cheap, stack it deep camp. I was very well stocked before all this madness started. Initially, I moved my family out of the city to our other location in the high desert. We spent about two months up there and I shot pretty much every day. It was a great opportunity for me to relax, practice skills, and get outside. I thought about how much ammo I had, what I realistically needed to keep the family safe and about how long I felt we would need to stay out there. After running all that through the old Cranium Mk* I, I realized that I could shoot for quite awhile without worry. I understand why some might think that is foolish, but it was most certainly fun! I still have enough ammo to wait out the panic buying and then restock when the prices drop.
     
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  19. briansmithwins

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    I stocked up on ammo to support about a couple years worth of shooting my normal pistol and rifle matches.

    Those matches have been cancelled due to covid19, so I’ve got plenty of ammo to go out and practice with. It might sound crazy for me to be shooting a couple hundred rounds of pistol ammo a month ago when 9mmP was selling for $0.50/round, but that ain’t the price I paid when I bought it 2 years ago.

    BSW
     
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    I'm a vet approaching 60, and I shoot at least 200rds of 9mm / 40S&W a week. It's not a waste - it's called practice. And because I am not a moron, I have planned ahead and I have enough components to last me for, well, just call it a while. YMMV.
     
  21. Dave DeLaurant

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    My neighborhood used to be borderline rural, but it has been slowly encroached and surrounded by the city in the past 70 years. Nowadays when you hear gunfire in my part of town, it's usually either 'celebratory' shots into the air (morons or criminals, you decide -- my wife found this spent .380 on our sidewalk the morning after New Year's Eve 2016/17. Note that the FMJ struck with sufficient energy to deform the nose, roughly 20 feet from our front door)

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    or related to a criminal incident. With that context, I think the OP's point may have been misunderstood. The public shooting ranges here are all closed, and since most of us live in urban settings these days, the nearest safe shooting environs should be well beyond earshot. The OP should correct me if I'm wrong, but if he intended to say that proper (i.e. safe) practice is a moronic waste of ammo, he would have stated so more plainly. I assume he meant there are better and more appropriate ways of just making noise.

    In the other matter, I've either been fairly lucky or provident in the timing of my ammo and reloading purchases. Right now I've enough rimfire stockpiled for a couple lifetimes, and enough centerfire ammo and/or components to last a decade or more. Once you've been through one ammo drought, unless circumstances prohibit stocking up you've only yourself to blame for not doing so once supplies resume.
     
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  22. jmr40

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    Around here any ammo shortages, and the run on guns, was short lived. Most of the AR's, shotguns, and handguns in 9mm priced under $500-$600 sold out quickly about a month ago. More expensive guns were still there. But for the most part things are pretty much normal. Store shelves are fully stocked with both ammo and firearms as of a few days ago when I was out last.
     
  23. jmorris

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    I guess I just don't like the, if they don't do what I would, they are wrong.

    I might be a person someone thinks wastes money playing with machineguns. While thinking they are wise "investing" in an RV and boat, that go down in value almost as fast as the meal you just ate, except by the thousands instantly upon ownership.

    Now, even a $150 new MAC 10 is worth over $7000 after years of turning money into noise.
     
  24. DukeConnor

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    Today my son and I shot about 700 9mm, 250 300 bo and quite a few mags of 5.56.

    We were happy morons

    I have thousands of pounda of lead and make as many bullets as I want. There is no shortage at my house.
     
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  25. Ernie Bass

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    I've got plenty of ammo. Now hold my beer and watch this!
     
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