HI-POINT rifle question...

[seeker_two]

I was at my local gunstore yesterday looking hard at a Hi-Point 9mm Carbine. Loaded w/ Pow'R'Ball or Federal EFMJ ammo, I'm thinking it would make a good short-range carbine that my wife (an infrequent shooter) can handle better than a 12ga pump or SxS (which I have now).

The store owner told me that both he and his distributor haven't been able to get new Hi-Point firearms & accessories. In fact, he's even called the manufacturer, but no one will give him an answer--just "out of stock" and "production to resume soon".

Has anyone heard anything about MKS/Hi-Point? Are they going out of business or redesigning the product?

Thanks in advance.....

 

[jefnvk]

I have no personal experience. Pistols are supposed to be junk, but I have heard good things about the carbines. One of the gun mags did a test with it and either a Beretta Storm or the Ruger 9mm carbine. The other gun was obviously better finished, but the two were about neck and neck in accuracy and reliability. When the cost was thrown in, the Hi-Point took the obvious advantage.

I plan on one as a plinker some day, they seem to fit me well and feel comfortable. Thing is uglier than sin, though.

One bad thing, is they seem to be specifically listed on every new AWB that comes up.

 

[Spot77]

One bad thing, is they seem to be specifically listed on every new AWB that comes up

Becasue they're so affordable to the masses, and we all know poor people can't be trusted with guns.

Thank God Md outlawed affordable small pistols (aka Saturday Night Specials) years ago......I feel much safer.



//sarcasm off



But back on topic, if you can find a used one it'll be the best $100 gun you ever bought.

 

[jobu07]

I've never bought one, I couldn't bring myself to spend money on something on so ugly. However, I have shot a friend of mine's HiPoint and I can say that it is a rugged, reliable, and accurate little carbine. If you wanted to use it as your wife's home defense carbine, it would be a great choice for the limited budget. If she can't hit them with it, they will go blind from the sight of it Just kidding by the way...

 

[hboy35]

call me stupid

but I have one of the 9mm carbines. Bought it used for $100. Have around 300rds thru it. I like it. At 25 yds, it groups around 1" with the irons and my eyes. Never had a malfunction of any kind. Dont ask about Hipoints unless you are ready to get an earful, mostly from folks who never owned or shot one. Might be best to PM me with any specific questions, just to sidestep a zillion posts that are sure to get a reaction from the masses.....

thanks

 

[chopinbloc]

i owned one and found it to be reliable and reasonably accurate - plenty of accuracy for home defense. it really is a great buy... here comes the but - i did have some issues with it. it requires tools to disassemble, not a huge problem but one of my pet peeves. the magazine floorplate was made of cheap plastic (maybe they've chaged this since then) and when i did a reload i actually managed to get the magazine all the way up the mag well backwards, well, the rifle obviously wouldn't feed in this configuration, but worse i had snapped the baseplate half off the mag. my only other complaint was that there were no hi-caps, but that was back in the dark days of The Ban, i'm sure they'll start offering bigger mags and if not there's gotta be a mag that would work with a new notch for the catch.

 

[Bartronnic Plague]

9mm hi-point

I own a Hi-point and it is very reliable and accurate. I shot a christmas tree ornament (round shiny kind) at 30 paces with factory sights.

I would be willing to sell for 150.00. Nothing it did, just need higher fire power. Factory box, scope rail, tools, sling, 2-10 rounders and one 15-rounder that extends the grip.

 

[kngflp]

Hi-Point will be releasing a .45 carbine that will take a 15 round mag. I am waiting on one of those for my girfriend. I think if you put a cheek pad on them and figure out a way to put heat shield over the barrel it would look smoother and not so humpy. I actually told Hi-Point that, so if they start making them that way I will be asking for a cut of profits.

 

[Dionysusigma]

kngflp: I think if you put a cheek pad on them and figure out a way to put heat shield over the barrel it would look smoother and not so humpy. I actually told Hi-Point that

I sent them a message like that too...

Hi-point pistols are ugly, but useable. The carbines? HAH. Thing fits me like a glove and seems to be built like a rock. Never got to fire it, but I wouldn't mind having one. If they're half as accurate as y'all say they are, then that price is a steal.

 

[TimH]

Isn't there a preban high cap mag for the Hi-point carbine? Seems to me that Browning high power mags or something like that fits this rifle. Anyone know anything about this?

 

[kngflp]

I am pretty sure both 9mm and .40 versions are single stack and the mags are unlike anything else so you have to buy them direct. You may be thinking of the kel tec carbines which come in different configurations to accept glock, berreta, or S&W mags.

 

[san408]

I am pretty sure both 9mm and .40 versions are single stack and the mags are unlike anything else so you have to buy them direct. You may be thinking of the kel tec carbines which come in different configurations to accept glock, berreta, or S&W mags.

Actually, no. I have two of the 15 rounders that promag now sells for the hi-point carbine. Still single stack, so they hang way down, but at least they are hi-cap.

 

[kngflp]

How far down?
OK someone needs to figure out how to get a Suomi drum welded to the standard mag.

 

[smince]

I have two of the 15 rounders that promag now sells for the hi-point carbine. Still single stack, so they hang way down, but at least they are hi-cap.

How reliable? In my experience, high cap single stack aren't very reliable over 10-11 rounds.

 

[winmagbill]

Bought a 9mm carbine for fun and was suprised. Out of the box sights were right on at 50 yards, still haven't touched them. After 500 rounds and five different ammo types only one FTF and that was brand specific, Rem 124gr FMJ, they also needed an assist on the first round so I stopped using them after 25 rounds. I haven't bothered to measure groups, but get roughly 1.5" @ 50 yards on a bag. Mostly I shoot 2-3" offhand with all brands of ammo and that keeps the cans moving. For fun, it will clang the 300 yard dong holding 20 feet high or so and using Milsurplus 9mm +P ammo, but you better be listening.

Not to happy with the mags. Low capacity means I spend range time loading them instead of shooting. The gun is made for low cost, $150 out the door, so don't look for elegant engineering like a Baretta Storm. The bolt hold open lock - Yikes. The rear sight - What Duh! This is a FUN gun and not the DEA Gov't Model

Clean and lube before shooting, mine was dirty, lots of crud. I haven't taken it apart yet since I started shooting, just cleaning the barrel and chamber, so I can see if/when it starts to jam.

PS This is my first post. I just found you guys, nice to know there others who shoot more than just an AR or just an AK and who have a range of interests in shooting.

 

[therealsteamer]

I bought a Hi-Point Carbine in Nov. of '01, expecting a decent plinker and HD gun. I was wrong. After about 1,300 rounds of Wolf 9mm I noticed small cracks in the bottom of the "slide". These were directly opposite of each other, about 1 1/2 in long on either side of the firing pin channel. The factory asked that I send them the entire gun for them to "check it out". Got it back in less than a week (with 2 free mags for my troubles) The Factory attributed this to the fact that I used Wolf ammo exclusively, they suggested Blazer alum. case. It looked brand new, everything was clean and shiny. I had really beat the crap out of it too, hey, its a cheap gun. That weekend when I finally got to shoot it, it worked great as a single shot. Would not feed or eject. I talked to the factory and they said that I could send it back, but they did recommend that I to "clean it up" with a dremel. I deburred and polished everything internal I could find, no real help. By now my wife was begging me to get rid of the "useless junk". I decided to give the factory one more try. A week and 2 free mags later it was back. This time it ran like a dream. I have since switched to brass case reloads (mostly 125gr lead) and have not had any issues except for tweaking the mags for better feeding. I have since added a red dot, forward vert. grip, light mounted to the compensator, enlarged/padded charging handle and homemade tac sling. Within 75 yards it will keep up with and surpass any of the pistol caliber carbines we have brought to the back field(several), both in accuracy and follow-up recovery. The last couple of years it has been a great gun, replaced in the home-defense role, but over 4,000 rounds as a plinker and groundhog-gitter. Just my very long winded reply and opinion.

Steamer