HK P7 for pistol course?

[Khyron]

When I get back from Iraq this summer I'm buying a load of weapons to include a HK P7 PSP and Glock G19 for concealed carry. I imagine the P7 will be my primary. Anyway think I'm going to sign of for the Fighting Pistol classes at Tactical Respone that I can attend during leave. I've read its a good idea to take your carry weapon with you to these classes and thats what I'd like to do. My only concern is I hear that the P7 can get quite hot with sustained shooting. Will I actually be shooting so much at once during a class like this that it might be a problem? If so I may be better off with the G19. I'll take the G19 anyway as a backup incase the P7 breaks. Any thoughts?

 

[Pilot]

If you're concerned about the P7 getting hot, wear a shooting glove. They can go about 50 rounds of sustained fire before getting hot. Its a good ideas to have a back up or two and the G19 is a good choice.

 

[MrPink]

I attended a 2 day shooting school with my P7 PSP. I brought my M8 as a backup. As said, the PSP gets hot after about 50 rounds. Sometimes, I'd put it down and use the M8.

Since PSP refurbs are cheap, I'd suggest getting 2. It's a great carry gun.

 

[buzz_knox]

Taking 2 (or more) P7s to a training course due to the heat issue is pretty much SOP for the P7 shooters I know.

 

[Coronach]

Yeah, buy two, take two. Then, you'll have a spare afterwards, or a gun that you can sell for a profit once this dip in prices rides itself out.

Mike

 

[Ghost Tracker]

While I like the P7, in a sustained course of fire like you're attending, the G19 is generally easier to "endurance shoot" AND (again...generally) more robust in durability.

I would be more concerned about the motor/memory skill differences in the operation of the two pistols. As I said before, the P7 is a fine handgun. But the nature of it's squeeze-cock mechanics is soooo unique that I might be personally inclined to allow myself to concentrate on the training...rather than being all wrapped-up in remembering WHICH pistol (squeeze or no-squeeze?) I had in my hand. So, IMHO, take two models of the P7 OR two G19s, but don't add any unnecessary multi-task confusion to an already difficult task.

 

[Chipperman]

Keep in mind that mag changes will be a little slower with the heel release of a P7.

 

[Khyron]

I'd considered getting two P7's and I may just do that while the price is right. Normally I'd scoff at the idea of buying two of the same pistols however I've been able to save up quite a bit of scratch since I've been deployed. It's amazingly easy to do when you aren't able to go to a bar for 15 months . Gonna definetely have to practice those mag changes however. Some good shooting gloves aren't a bad idea either. Thanks all!

 

[Ghost Tracker]

Ahhh, go ahead, admit it! You've simply developed a mild-to-moderate case of HK P7 fever. It's easy enough to contract & can last for years. Most of us have had it at one time or another. It's nothing to be embarassed about. It's a reverse process from most other (less serious) handguns affairs - to grow to eventually like the P7 you must first...LOVE it. Some (lucky stiffs) actually DIE having never completely gotten over the P7 fever. Good luck never getting well.

 

[Pilot]

I would be more concerned about the motor/memory skill differences in the operation of the two pistols. As I said before, the P7 is a fine handgun. But the nature of it's squeeze-cock mechanics is soooo unique that I might be personally inclined to allow myself to concentrate on the training...rather than being all wrapped-up in remembering WHICH pistol (squeeze or no-squeeze?) I had in my hand.

Ya know, I think the manual of arms thing is a bit overblown. I switch between an HK P7 and a CZ-75D pretty often. The CZ is DA/SA, but like the Glock its a draw and pull the trigger manual of arms. Guess what, the P7 is a draw and pull the trigger manual of arms. The squeeze portion comes naturally to me as I grip all my pistols relatively firmly. The cocking device gets cocked due to the firmness of the grip. Once its cocked its easy and natural to keep cocked. I think the CZ and Glock are good back ups for the P7, or another P7 of course. Great guns.

 

[CWL]

Always have a BUG for training sessions. I have seen every type of gun go down -including Glocks, SIGs, custom M1911s.

If you want to carry that P7PSP, then you definitely should be training with it.

 

[Ghost Tracker]

Ya know, I think the manual of arms thing is a bit overblown.

You could be right. I just believe, with all the new info & technique being absorbed in an intense training course, that I would be best served by the ability to move to my BUG without having to think about ANY changes in its operation. If I've qualified my Porsche for the grid of a Track Day race & a late mechanical failure means I must change cars...I sure hope my new ride isn't a BMW. Both great cars? Yep. Will I do as well or race as confidently? Nope. (And they'll move my start-position to the back of the pack)