Respect.
The reality is, all any of can truly share are our experiences and observations.
Now others around here, have not had my experiences or observations.
Just the same, I have not had the experiences and observations of those that have been in War, or worked for a Corrections Dept, or on a HRT/SWAT Team.
New folks cycle in, and it is the responsibility of those seasoned, with experiences and observations, to pass forward.
New Folks, it is your responsibility to be willing to learn.
New folks it is your responsibility to want "it".
Respect is earned. Seasoned folks earn the respect of new folks, and new folks earn the respect of seasoned folks.
Now if someone does not have a willingness to learn, or does not want "it", that is certainly their right.
Just have some respect for those interacting and either find another forum, or be quiet, read, and do not be disrespectful of the others.
You might learn something...if you do choose to stick around.
There is no holy grail, no absolutes. Evil uses many ploys, methods of operations, as there are many models of criminals and many different environments.
Add, we ourselves differ.
Variables, plain and simple.
What I bring to the table ...
I was born into a high risk environment, and have various experiences and observations based on this alone.
I also grew up assisting mentors, whom assisted battered women, abused kids, physically limited, elderly , and War Veterans.
So I chose to continue to assist these same persons.
Mentors passed to me, I continue on, while passing this forward to others.
We cannot all do the same thing, we have a need to diversify and pass forward to so many , in so many ways.
In other words, we need not all do the same things, as we will leave others out.
It is all good.
There is no "Us vs Them"
Each one - teach one.
No, I never attended a know gun school, there were none. My lessons were private, with mentors.
Mentors that include some interesting folks, that had been there and done that.
Some were not from the USA, and these folks grew up in a country where war, conflict, and civil unrest was prevalent.
i.e. South African.
"In my country what is dropped, stays dropped".
Yes, I understand Awerbuck shares this...
I heard it too many decades ago as well.
You reach down and you might lose a hand, arm, or life.
Other mentors spent time in far places, and I hate to use the cliche's still they apply-
"We were never there..."
"We don't speak of some things..."
Plus I competed, in various things, including shotgun.
There was no 3 Gun for instance, just the same mentors and me, and our kind did such replications of real events that had happened,and replicated what might happen.
Re: Firebombs.
Nobody , except myself, has ever shared in Shotguns, the defense use of a shotgun, being used to fell a firebomb before it reaches something it was tossed at to do harm.
Most often a structure, such as home or business. These were also thrown toward vehicles, and to simply start fires.
A threat is a threat, and WE share the defense use of firearms, including shotguns, to stop a threat.
In the high risk industry, I once was working in the wee hours, and unknown to any of us, criminals had been working on gaining access through the roof.
They came in, while I was in this building.
These models of criminals had bypassed the alarms.
Re: PGO (pistol gripped shotguns).
First off, I hate the damn things.
Second, I had serious lessons on the use of one, as being in what all I was, I had a legit need, for one for some settings.
Third, I drew short straw ( actually I did not get straw at all) and assisted Armored Car Guards and similar with the use of a PGO.
Mine were Ithaca 37s, and mine were gifts from folks that honest to goodness cared about me.
Boss man told the mentors,and in house, get me whatever...
As time passes I received other PGOs from Sheriff Dept/Deputies, State Police, US Marshall, FBI, and City police.
Yes, I also had 870s...
Just 37s was what I toted most.
*snicker* No disrespect , just understand there is some serious, good natured ribbing that happens between folks doing things.
"Did you know somebody done stuck yore safety up there on the top , instead of down on the trigger guard where it is supposed to be?"
PGO Mossberg, we had a UC cop using one.
"Hey, the stupid Armored Car Co that I am doing this gig with, issues these, don't blame me, blame them"
"Yeah, right. Listen you bring us a bag of $10 bills and we won't rib you anymore".
I guess you had to be there, still we razzed like this all the time.
Being serious- Sick humor to stay sane.
He said he was going to shoot some light "birdshot" to get used to the Mossberg.
It made sense to me, to dump out his shells when he went to use the restroom and fill the box with birdseed.
My name was used in vain and ...
Respect does not mean you cannot have fun and pull pranks.
This was payback for what he did to me in regard to "rat shot".
Come to think of it, we were basically just a bunch of sick folks period. *grin*
New Folks, my point is, give it time, listen, learn, ask questions.
Yeah, you will be matriculated into this community, just give it time.
Careful you might get some bad prank ideas, then again this is not such a bad thing either.
