(Hopefully fun): What's next from Hi-Point?

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I was just skimming an active thread about whether it's a wise idea to buy a Hi-Point 9mm as a range / plinking gun. [Thread summary: Either Yes, it is, or No, dagnabbit, it isn't -- save up and buy a Ruger. If No, continue to advice to buy a .22 instead, as it's cheaper to feed and not *that* much more to buy, if at all.]

Ahem.

My question / thought-stream is this: What to expect from Hi-Point in the future?

For all their faults (ugly, blocky, let-us-charitably-say mixed reports on reliability and accuracy, etc), I'd take a Hi-Point pistol if my alternative was no gun at all.

And their carbines have long intrigued me -- I've resisted, but might not forever. I see now that they finally have a carbine in .45ACP, too -- it was in development, I think, last time I thought about it. Been a couple of years :) Now they have skeletonized stocks, doo-hickey options out the wazoo (laser! flashlight! USB connection! rails!), and don't IMO look all that bad. Tempting.

The pistols, though, don't seem to've changed in that time. They're all pretty much ugly bricks, which either reliably shoot bullets down range (percent Q of reporting owners and pundits) or don't (percent 100-Q of reporting owners and pundits).

Does Hi-Point show up to SHOT? Do they have interesting plans in the works? I would like to see them make a gun in the spirit of the small, budget-oriented 9mms that are suddenly appearing from Ruger, Kimber, and others. Not sure I'd want to buy it, but it's interesting to see what the low-budget entrants in any field do, and how well the result functions. What would a Hi-Point shotgun be like?

Makes me think of Yugo and Hyundai ... they hit the U.S. at about the same time, both offered cars for (IIRC) just under $5,000, both were laughed at pretty hard. Hyundai as a company, though, had some deep backing, and could get past the laughter stage, while Yugo's whole country decided to dry up and blow away. Hyundai may not be Lexus, but they have a decent warranty (Yes, I hear it already -- "You'll need it!") and I wouldn't be ashamed to be seen driving one. Some are pretty nifty, actually. But Yugo ... Yugos might still be around in some collectors' garages, waiting for the price jump, I guess. But if only Yugo had stuck it out, somehow, and kept making cheap, bottom-of-the-barrel cars that mostly worked and had loyal drivers ... I think that might be the Hi-Point car maker.

And instead of "crappy," I like to think of Hi-Point (because I am a generous guy, and have never shot one to think especially bad of it, only read with wonder reports from people who do) as "quirky."

Maybe in 10 years, they'll be making both fantastic, high-tech carbines shooting cartridge-free ammunition, with GPS, stereo FM radios, and mounting hardware for putting on drones ... and an unchanged quartet of blocky pistols.

I wonder though, and would enjoy hearing informed speculation as well as well-honed cynical ridicule. (Of Hi-Point, not of me.)

timothy
 
I think the next step will involve a price increase as the melt value goes up after adding several more pounds of pot metal in an attempt to prevent slide cracking/breaks.
 
I don't think the future for Hi Point will be much different than what we have now.

Realistically, though the enthusiast community regards them as at best serviceable guns, they sell VERY well . We live in the Wal-mart era where realistically many shoppers come in and buy the cheapest of whatever they're looking for.

With that in mind: R&D costs money. Money drives up prices. Why would Hi Point want to do that? They're already "good enough" for the customers coming in in droves who just want a cheap gun so there's not much point in messing with the formula.

IMHO, if you want low price AND innovation - keep an eye on Kel-tec. They make lots of little guns priced barely above Hi-point's stuff, and they're ALWAYS trying out new stuff.
 
Bought one of their pistols once. Sold it without ever having fired it. I just didn't trust the thing, though I had no experience one way or the other with 'em.

Years later, I sent hundreds of rounds downrange and in the woods with their 9mm carbine. Probably the most fun I've had since I was a kid wandering the canyons with my ol' Marlin levergun. No failures, and we were feeding it the cheapest ammo we could find.

I'm not gonna go out of my way to buy one, but if one of their long guns fell into my lap, I'd at least go out and give 'er a whirl before deciding whether to put it up for sale.
 
I own one of their 9mm carbines and it is absolutely fun to shoot. I have no input on their handguns though.
 
I have owned both carbines and pistols of theirs, and never had a problem with them. They are ugly, heavy, and cheap, but they did digest any ammo I put in them. As for accuracy? Not the most accurate as far as the pistols go, but well within minute of bad guy. This was back when you could buy the Hi-Point 9mm for $89 NEW!

Great fun, but as Velojym said, I wouldn't go out of my way to find one, but if I came across one I wouldn't hesitate to buy em.
 
send that memo to Walther.

Be sure to copy Umarex.

From Hi Point? I see a faithful reproduction of a SIG P210 as an almost certainty. Litigation will ensue and in retaliation for Hi Point's ripoff of the P210 SIG will produce a Hi Point clone, slap a beavertail on it, and call it the "Sigblo".
 
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I was given a Hi-Point C9 some 12+ years ago by my brother, who had no use for it. He got it in lieu of cash for work he did for someone. Anyway, the older C9's were even heavier than the guns of today. Mine isn't made of the alloy that todays Hi-points are constructed of. It is metal & it is a heavy gun. The mags didn't have those finicky feed lips that the newer mags have. In all it was a better gun. The design hasn't changed from that era to today except for using alloy now. That being said, the thing is a brick, kind of ugly & uncomfortable for me to shoot. The back strap is formed in such a way that it eats the webbing between my thumb & my fore finger for some reason. It is ammo sensitive, but then again I have more expensive guns that are too.

With the right ammo those older C9 guns were a viable SD gun for someone who couldn't afford a more expensive gun. I keep mine in a tool box in the garage in case I am in the yard or garage & I have to get to a gun quickly. I know after a year or 2 out there that it will still shoot when I pick it up. The other guns I own would do the same thing, except I'd never leave them out in the garage like that. As far as the newer Hi-Points, I can't speak to those except to say a friend bought one because he liked mine. His isn't happy with his. He wants to find an older one like mine.

I am a member on the Hi-Point forum site. There are a great number of Hi-Point owners over there who love their guns. I won't disparage them or any other gun owner over their choice of guns. I don't get into the game of calling certain guns trash, junk, etc. If it is what they want to own, shoot or carry who am I to call them names. I love all guns, including Hi-Points. OK, I won't love the gun that puts a hole in my body:eek: I do have limits.
 
I think they should make a .223 carbine. If they can put it out at the price of their .45, I'm sure it would be a big hit. Even in a single stack magazine, it would be a great plinker, varmit gun.
 
Storm wrote:
From Hi Point? I see a faithful reproduction of a SIG P210 as an almost certainty. Litigation will ensue and in retaliation for Hi Point's ripoff of the P210 SIG will produce a Hi Point clone, slap a beavertail on it, and call it the "Sigblo".

Hey! Now there's an idea ;)

It may not be a deep idea, but I get intrigued by this kind of thought experiment; the world of gun-makers has a lower end of the pool, and Hi-Point is at a weird point (can't think of any other current makers I'd put in the same category) of *not* being bad in the nearly-malevolent way that I think of some of the old "ring-of-fire" makers (Lorcin, Jennings, etc).

I would like to see Hi-Point pull a Hyundai :)

timothy
 
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