Twiki357
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Has anyone acquired one of the S&W Victory 22s? I would like to know how you like it. Is it accurate and how is the break down and reassembly for cleaning?
How is the new S&W Victory model 22lr
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steven58
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Here's a review.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ng-0FGrvBTg
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ng-0FGrvBTg
carsten1911
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finding names...
...for guns seems a job sometimes given to marketing people with a questionable sense for history and honour.
This is one of the few guns I would never consider buying just because its name is beyond the absurd and any form of good taste.
...for guns seems a job sometimes given to marketing people with a questionable sense for history and honour.
This is one of the few guns I would never consider buying just because its name is beyond the absurd and any form of good taste.
Here's my little review;
http://ingunowners.com/forums/handguns/405573-s-w-22-victory-review.html
There is a lot of good info in the thread on RFC dedicated to the Victory.
http://ingunowners.com/forums/handguns/405573-s-w-22-victory-review.html
There is a lot of good info in the thread on RFC dedicated to the Victory.
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CajunBass
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I'd never even heard of it until this thread, but a little searching reveals that it sounds pretty interesting. I might have to look for one.
ApacheCoTodd
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News to me too but a "S&W Victory Model" is:
and not so much this:
Looks like an interesting alternative to a Ruger though.
Todd.
and not so much this:
Looks like an interesting alternative to a Ruger though.
Todd.
Ed Ames
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OK, I'll bite. Why is naming a target pistol the "SW22 Victory" in bad taste?
Doesn't seem any worse than naming a motorcycle company "Triumph", or a Pontiac a "Grand Prix".
They introduced it with a threaded barrel model on day one, and the threaded model is only $20 more than the base model. That seems like a victory for the silencer industry.
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Twiki357
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Thank you all for your replies and especially the links. ApacheCoTodd, I agree about the Victory name, but I figure a new Victory to go with my original can’t be all bad. And as an alternative to my Mark III is exactly my motivation.
UpperAtmosphere
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Volquartsen makes some sexy barrels for the Victory.
ljnowell
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I shot one last weekend. I can honestly say the trigger was crap. If volquartsen comes out with a trigger for them, I might buy one.
rcmodel
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I agree on the name.
It is a disgrace for S&W to name anything that again.
rc
It is a disgrace for S&W to name anything that again.
rc
TanklessPro
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^^^^^^+1 to what rc said
rcmodel
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That's not the half of it.
Internet gun chatter 25 years from now.
OP: My S&W Victory Model is misfiring, please help me!!!
A: Are you talking about a WWII Victory Model .38 Special revolver?
Or one of those .22 pistols they only made 4 years (2016 - 2020)?
The next day:
OP: I'm not sure which it is.
A: Well, does it have a round thing with holes in it that Flips out & in?
Or is it shiny silver with a square thing that Slips in & out?
Two days later:
OP: I'm not sure, let me go look at it again.
Band width will be wasted in mass quantities, over great periods of time.
Just trying to find out what the heck the OP is talking about!!
Not to mention, it just ain't right!!
There was, and always will be, only one Victory Model S&W!!
rc
Internet gun chatter 25 years from now.
OP: My S&W Victory Model is misfiring, please help me!!!
A: Are you talking about a WWII Victory Model .38 Special revolver?
Or one of those .22 pistols they only made 4 years (2016 - 2020)?
The next day:
OP: I'm not sure which it is.
A: Well, does it have a round thing with holes in it that Flips out & in?
Or is it shiny silver with a square thing that Slips in & out?
Two days later:
OP: I'm not sure, let me go look at it again.
Band width will be wasted in mass quantities, over great periods of time.
Just trying to find out what the heck the OP is talking about!!
Not to mention, it just ain't right!!
There was, and always will be, only one Victory Model S&W!!
rc
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Or maybe, just maybe, somebody will ask "is it a revolver or a semi automatic?" the Op will know, and then the confusion will be gone.
Personally, I don't care what they call it. The gun looks nice but I'll wait around to see if there are any persistant problems before buying.
It was a good call to discontinue the 22a, they just weren't durable enough for serious use and having to replace a plastic buffer every few hundred rounds is and always has been a terrible design.
Personally, I don't care what they call it. The gun looks nice but I'll wait around to see if there are any persistant problems before buying.
It was a good call to discontinue the 22a, they just weren't durable enough for serious use and having to replace a plastic buffer every few hundred rounds is and always has been a terrible design.
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I like the way it takes down
Jim NE
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Not to beat a dead horse on the name... but imagine if Beechcraft introduced a "P-38 Lightning" or Cessna introduced a "Spitfire." WW2 holds a somewhat venerated status in our society.
On another issue, I hope S&W doesn't stop making the buffers for the 22A. I really like mine.
On another issue, I hope S&W doesn't stop making the buffers for the 22A. I really like mine.
Jlr2267
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in 25 yrs, no one will remember the WW2 model. Us old guys will be gone (or at least our memories will).That's not the half of it.
Internet gun chatter 25 years from now.
OP: My S&W Victory Model is misfiring, please help me!!!
A: Are you talking about a WWII Victory Model .38 Special revolver?
Or one of those .22 pistols they only made 4 years (2016 - 2020)?
The next day:
OP: I'm not sure which it is.
A: Well, does it have a round thing with holes in it that Flips out & in?
Or is it shiny silver with a square thing that Slips in & out?
Two days later:
OP: I'm not sure, let me go look at it again.
Band width will be wasted in mass quantities, over great periods of time.
Just trying to find out what the heck the OP is talking about!!
Not to mention, it just ain't right!!
There was, and always will be, only one Victory Model S&W!!
rc
roval
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Thanks for the op .I'll be on the lookout for this.
You can bet they will at some point in the near future. Good news is once your frame fails (and it will) they'll probably replace it with a different gun.
Ed Ames
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If beechcraft wants to name an airplane after a can opener I don't see the problem.
As for Spitfire, that's the name of a manufacturer of skateboard wheels.
I suppose WWII is venerated by those who lived through it or had some close connection, but I still don't see why naming a pistol after a motorcycle brand is a bad thing or detracts from WWII. I think they should also have a Harley Davidson, an Indian, et cetera. Celebrate all the classic motorcycle marques.
Coyote3855
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I love my S&Ws, but like rc, I am annoyed when they dredge up past monikers for modern guns. The whole M&P line of semi auto handguns and rifles poaches the good name of an early hand ejector. While naming a new stainless semi auto .22 for a venerated WWII classic bothers me, I don't think it's immoral, dishonorable, or fattening. Maybe poor taste.
Jim NE
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There have been a lot of products called "Spitfire" - everything from a Triumph sports car to a flathead Chrysler engine. Calling a modern airplane a Spitfire is an altogether different thing....especially if it's made by the company that made the original. (Though I think the original Supermarine company is defunct.)
Don't get me wrong...any company has the right to call their products anything they want.
And I have the right to have, and state, an opinion about it. If the name "Victory" turns some long time Smith and Wesson fans off, the company deserves to know about it. No company wants to turn away buyers.
But I suspect it's like anything else - some will be bothered by the name, and some won't. In the end, it's their problem, not mine.
Ed Ames
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Spitfire 2
Yeah, supermarine is long gone.
Agreed.
I'll admit I find the name disagreeable, though not because of WWII associations or the use of "victory cabage" to describe sauerkraut during the war.
I just don't like virtue names in general. "Constance", "Hope", "Chastity", "Justice", "Victory", "Vigor", "Duplicity", et cetera...as they seem to be based on the idea that calling a thing X is a viable alternative to a thing being X. In other words, that naming your child "Genius Jimsdaughter" has similar significance to your daughter being a genius.
Janos Dracwlya
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I thought it was a strange choice of name, but, since it's a target pistol, "victory" could be applied to it winning competitions.
I saw one at Whittaker's Guns last Saturday; it looked very nice, and the price was good, too. I'm hearing generally good things about the gun, so I might end up buying one.
I saw one at Whittaker's Guns last Saturday; it looked very nice, and the price was good, too. I'm hearing generally good things about the gun, so I might end up buying one.
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