How many rounds for CCW?

[smithmax]

How does one conceal 95 rounds? I just carry the 10 in my USP .40

 

[Mp7]

A Desert Eagle with 4 spare mags, each loaded with 450 grain of Paranoia.



Seriously i can´t understand why you´d bring a spare mag
for a hi-cap pistol.... unless you all ive in Compton.

 

[The Lone Haranguer]

I didn't answer the poll because I have different guns for different situations. Whatever the gun, I always carry with a full magazine in the gun, loaded chamber and one spare magazine. With my current guns (Kahr PM9, CZ PCR, Glock 19), that would be 14, 29 and 31 rounds, respectively.

 

[mongo4567]

95 rounds???? I usually carry a Keltec P3AT with the 6+1 or a Kahr PM40 with the 5+1.

If I felt like there were a high threat level (LA riots), I would switch to a 1911 with 7+1 and two reloads....maybe a backpack with loaded clips too....maybe a folding stock AK too.

 

[Chris Plitt]

I prefer to carry my Sig and an extra mag. I don't want to end up in a situation like the officer out west during the mall shootout. When I was doing concealment training classes someone pitched a good point: That officer was carrying a 1911 and going up against a guy with an sks (I believe, I can't remember exactly). I bet he would have traded his entire pension and his life savings for one extra mag.

Then again, 95 rounds is a bit excessive unless you hear gunshots on the way to your car. Glenn Beck made the comment about not carrying a gun because you think you'll need it. If you think you'll NEED it and 95 rounds you should either move, or not go to wherever it is that you go.

 

[Great Scot]

7+1

in a Kel-Tec PF9.

 

[schnarrgj]

Bersa thunder 7+1 with a reload 7 for 15.

 

[psyopspec]

Whatever I carry, I bring at least one reload. If I'm down to a 5-shot J frame due to a non-permissive environment, it's at least 1 speed loader. During the winter I sometimes carry a Beretta 92FS in a shoulder rig. Two mags on the other side to balance the weight = 52 rounds total (3x17+1).

While I recommend at least one reload for the possibility of a mag-related failure, I don't judge people either way on how much ammo they carry. After all, it's one of the few factors of getting into a gunfight that you have some measure of control over, and you get to live the consequences either way.

Seriously i can´t understand why you´d bring a spare mag
for a hi-cap pistol.... unless you all ive in Compton.

Many of the failures I've witnessed with autoloading pistols were magazine related. If your mag takes a dump, it doesn't matter how many rounds are/were in it.

 

[Geno]

I always get these reactions to the number of rounds, etc. Check with your local LEO as to how many firearms (and other tools) he/she carries and the number of rounds. In my area, the LEOs typically have :

1) primary handgun
2) back-up handgun
3) bug handgun
4) AR-configured carbine
5) 12 gauge shotgun
6) taser
7) baton
8) bullet-resistant vest w/ 3mm titanium plate
9) radio communications
10) back-up up the whazoo

Well, that rather leaves me feeling comparatively like my skinny posterior is hanging in the cold wind, and nobody to cover me, or back me up. If my weapons fail (or components) I'm screwed.

The critical factor is not the number of rounds available, it's the number of magazines in case of a magazine failure, or 3. In Advanced Tactical we were taught that it the pistol fails, likely it is a magazine failure...drop it, and load a fresh magazine. If the second magazine also fails, drop the pistol and go to the back-up. If you physically drop the magazine, draw a fresh magazine. Finally, we were taught not just 1 shot, but double-taps and triple taps. We also did several exercises involving emptying the magazine into the target.

I assure you, for where I travel, and the types of multiple attackers on a single victim, I am not over-packing.

Respectfully,

Geno

 

[TimM]

I just wanted to mention that choosing a carry set up is a very personal thing... we all know that. If one guy feels comfortable carrying 95 rounds and you feel comfortable carrying 5, what skin is it off your nose? His choice, not yours.

If I somehow, God forbid, I got myself into a really hairy situation and had limited ammo, I wouldn't mind at all if the guy that was carrying 95 rounds had my back.

 

[Nugilum]

Geno:

Check with your local LEO as to how many firearms (and other tools) he/she carries and the number of rounds.

Well yea, that's there profession. They are purposely going into danger, so they need the extra firepower. I don't respond to a "domestic dispute" or "shots fired".

 

[Geno]

Re: the comment about how it might look in court to carry so many rounds, we were instructed to carry as-many rounds-as we can, and always at least 1 back-up and a bug. The instructor, a local LEO Sergeant carried 5 pistols.

I discussed this at length in a thread titled How Prepared Are You "Really"? That thread was written back when I nickname here was Doc2005. In closing, I'd rather have one extra magazine in my hands, than to run out of bullets and resort to throwing stones, rocks and feces.

Here is the link: http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=321969&highlight=Prepared So, let me re-present the question: How prepared are you "really"?!

Geno (Formerly Doc2005)

 

[Girodin]

Seriously i can´t understand why you´d bring a spare mag
for a hi-cap pistol.... unless you all ive in Compton.

It is a good thing you asked then. As multiple other posters have indicated one major reason to have a spare mag has to do with reliability more than simply the extra rounds. Mags are often the source of stopages in auto loading pistols. You may need to drop the mag to clear a stopage as well.

I am also amused by the idea that bad things only happen in bad neighborhoods. Think of some of the recent rampage shootings.

Statistically speaking you are not very likely to ever need your gun. If you are going to go to the effort to get a permit, get a gun and a carry set up, get training (although wondering why one might want a mag indicates a lack there of), pack the thing around every day, is carrying a spare mag really a stretch.

It is funny when one gun carrier or owner calls another paranoid. We each have our level where we feel comfortable. We may think the guy a level up from us (ie packing 95 rounds) is paranoid and silly but rest assured there are people a level below you (be that the guy with his 5 shot revolver or the person who doesn't CC, or doesn't own a gun) who thinks that your nuts and paranoid. I think there are some good argument and reasoning for certain things i.e carrying a spare mag or carrying a bug, as well as not carrying 95 rounds. Pulling the paranoia card is not only ironic it adds little in way of constructive debate about the reasoning and advantages or disadvantage of such things.

 

[Girodin]

Oh and to reply to the OP, it depends. Anywhere from the low end of your poll to the high end. Typically it has little to do with threat assement in terms of am I going to a safe place or not and more to do with what I am wearing and how long I will be out of the house.

That officer was carrying a 1911 and going up against a guy with an sks (I believe, I can't remember exactly).

If you are referencing the incident I am thinking of the BG had a shotgun and at least one handgun and a backpack full of ammo. BTW that happened in a area of town that is not particularly a bad area, certainly no Compton. I had actually been there a couple hours before the shooting happened, I did not think I was in an unsafe place. Bad things can happen in "safe" places to people who are minding there own business doing the type of stuff we all do regularly.

 

[jad0110]

My most frequently carried gun is a 2" S&W Model 15 (6-shot k-frame) with 2 speedloaders for 18 rounds total. Got a 4" 15 that I carry as well, same deal. Sometimes I carry a 5" 1911 (7+1) plus one spare 7 round mag for 15. Sometimes, either setup is supplemented with my 5 shot J frame as a BUG (no reload for it) for a total of either 23 rounds with the K Frames or 20 with the 1911. If I carry just the J Frame, I also carry 2 speedloaders for a total of 15.

I guess I carry the reloads for my own comfort. I live in a safe area, so I'll probably never have to use my gun at all, much less need more than a few rounds, but I carry the extra ammo anyway. If lack of situational awareness on my part gets me into a jam where I might actually need 15+ rounds, I figure I'm probably finished; the extra rounds will just allow me to take more of them with me I suppose.

 

[WoofersInc]

For me it is usually a 1911 with 2 spare mags. I have always carried at least 2 spare mags with me. Never know when Mr Murphy will pop up.

 

[belus]

I've only carried semi-autos so it's been a loaded gun plus a spare mag. The spare mag isn't so much for extra ammo as insurance if something goes wrong with the first (accidentally drop it, or if the slide locks back prematurely).

So if the mags held 20 (I've never carry a gun that large, but let's assume), I'd have 41 rounds with me. But my most frequent carry holds 8, so I end up with 17 rounds.

If I were to carry a revolver I'd probably have the gun loaded plus two speed loaders or moon clips.

 

[psyopspec]

Well yea, that's there profession. They are purposely going into danger, so they need the extra firepower. I don't respond to a "domestic dispute" or "shots fired".

So, police carry guns because they go after bad guys, yes?
...
Who do bad guys go after?

 

[DAVIDSDIVAD]

It depends on what kind of clothes I'm wearing.

In addition to the spare mags in the mag holder, I'll toss extra mags that I pass in my room into spare pockets in my shorts or pants

 

[freakshow10mm]

9rd 10mm 1911 with two 9rd mags on the belt and two more 9rd mags in the truck along with a rifle, loaded 30rd mag, empty chamber, 2 spare 30rd mags.

 

[Vern Humphrey]

John Farnham has said the number one cause of stoppages in both automatics and revolvers in actual combat is running out of ammunition. In addition, the weak spot in automatics is the magazine. It only makes sense, therefore to carry at least one reload, no matter what kind of gun you carry.

 

[Nugilum]

Who do bad guys go after?

When the intended victim starts shooting at them, it's time to bug out.

 

[mgregg85]

I carry an XD45 compact and a spare mag, thus 10+1+14=25

 

[zombienerd]

I carry what my Bersa holds. 7 rounds. I have been thinking of putting a mag in the car though. My holster doesn't hold an extra mag, but I've been thinking of getting a pocket holder for an extra mag.

I know you should be prepared for anything, but if I need more than 7 bullets, I'm severely lacking in people on my side of the argument.

 

[Eightball]

For now, I have my chosen firearms, a good way to carry (whatever it might be), and some good ammo. Next on the list of "to-do" is the "extra ammunition" bit.

Hey, for a college budget, I'm not bad off. I've got the absolute essentials down, at any rate.