Lone_Gunman said:The lawsuit pre-emption bill is in fact a good thing for gun companies for sure, but maybe not such a good thing for citizens and the Constitution.
First, remember that no gun company has ever gone out of business because of lawsuits that would have been prevented by this law, so the motivation for this law is questionable to me in the first place.
Second, those who would tout this law as beneficial to the citizens will claim that if the gun maker's liability goes down, so does his cost of manufacturing, and this savings will be passed on to consumers in the form of decreased retail prices. Only problem is, the price of guns has not (and will not) go down.
Third, this law increases the power of the federal government, specifically the Congress. Congress has now banned you, the citizen, from seeking redress in the courts. We support this now, because we think it is protecting our guns. But what if Congress decided to entirely ban civil lawsuits? If the gun maker lawsuit ban is judged Constitutional, then any lawsuit ban could be as well. Do we really want to increase the scope of federal control over our lives?
Finally, before you get to gung-ho about this lawsuit ban, you need to reconcile it with the Seventh Amendment, which guarantees a right to a trial by jury for civil matters exceeding $20.
I thought Jimmy Carter was a terrible president, but what did you have a problem with as far as his integrity is concerned?
Hunter Rose said:Use the niave young girl again: teh AWB sunset was the Repubs takin' us on a date, because we were gettin' restive...
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the law in question protect the Gun industry from suits where a criminal misused a gun, or when the Gun industry is not directly liable. I believe in issues where the gun industry is directly liable (product liability, direct illegal sales...) they can be sued.
I don't believe the Founding fathers intended Ford to be held liable for the Drunk Drivers of this Country.!!!
Lone_Gunman said:Do we really want to increase federal power?
Lone_Gunman said:GoRon,
I thought Jimmy Carter was a terrible president, but what did you have a problem with as far as his integrity is concerned?
Of course no political party is 100% committed to any particular cause.
If you think a Republican wouldn't be a gun banner just remember what GWB said when asked about re-newing the AWB "When congress sends me a bill I'll sign it" Quite frankly with the way the GOP has ran this country they deserve to loose everything.
I want to know the answer to that too. Ineffective as president, annoying little globalist leftist? Yes. Crook? AFAIK, no.
Maybe so, but NOT to the Democrats. That would be like saying, Nyeah, nyeah, take that! Same goes for throwing your vote away on a third party, and yes, that is what you are doing, most times. Support your third party all you want, but keep an eye on the polls. They are a pretty good gauge of what people are thinking. If, by the time comes, your third party doesn't stand a chance, you are pissing your vote away. Vote instead for the man of the 2 main parties, who thinks most like you. If the polls are close on all 3, then by all means, take a chance.GlenJ said:If you think a Republican wouldn't be a gun banner just remember what GWB said when asked about re-newing the AWB "When congress sends me a bill I'll sign it" Quite frankly with the way the GOP has ran this country they deserve to loose everything.
Seems to me that the only vote pissed or thrown away is the one that wasn't cast.Stevie-Ray said:Maybe so, but NOT to the Democrats. That would be like saying, Nyeah, nyeah, take that! Same goes for throwing your vote away on a third party, and yes, that is what you are doing, most times. Support your third party all you want, but keep an eye on the polls. They are a pretty good gauge of what people are thinking. If, by the time comes, your third party doesn't stand a chance, you are pissing your vote away. Vote instead for the man of the 2 main parties, who thinks most like you. If the polls are close on all 3, then by all means, take a chance.
BTW, please not McCain! Even so, I would prefer him to Hillary. But not over Miller or Dingell. And this from a registered Republican.