How Much Ammo is Too Much

[danez71]

Originally Posted by CoalTrain49

If you have 1000 rounds of centerfire rifle ammo you fall into the comp shooter, survivalist, or jihadist category.

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We can vegetables and fish every year. We can enough to get us through until the next canning season. .

You must be a prepper /survivalist / jihadist if you have more than a few spare cans of veggies and fish.


Seriously, when has ever there been no fresh food available in a few days in the USA after a disaster or riot etc?

 

[danez71]

Here's a question for all of you ammo economists. Does your homeowners insurance cover your 3K worth of ammo. Or does your homeowners insurance policy get canceled for all of your loses when it's determined that some of your ammo cooked off in a fire. The fire investigator starts snooping around and finds 10K rounds of ammo and the local fire code says that only 1K is a legal amount of ammo for a residence. .

Can you cite any cities that limit residential ammo storage to 1000 round limit?


You got to admit, it would be pretty coincidental that any city would have the same qty limit that matches your survivalist/jihadist threshold comment.

 

[Warp]

Here's a thought. If I had to replace the 10K I have wrapped up in firearms I have insurance that would replace those. I know because I've talked at length with my ins. agent about it. I have a rider for it.

Here's a question for all of you ammo economists. Does your homeowners insurance cover your 3K worth of ammo. Or does your homeowners insurance policy get canceled for all of your loses when it's determined that some of your ammo cooked off in a fire. The fire investigator starts snooping around and finds 10K rounds of ammo and the local fire code says that only 1K is a legal amount of ammo for a residence. Or, like ins. companies are prone to do, they just don't pay your claim and wait for you to sue them so they can bring up the fact that the intensity of the fire was because of your ammo hoarding and the hazard to the firefighters delayed them from fighting the fire.

If you don't think ins. companies wouldn't do that then you've never filed a claim.

lol what the heck are you talking about

 

[X-Rap]

These accusations of ammo hording and false statements of quantity restrictions sounds more like the talk of anti gun Quislings to me.
Who the heck cares how much ammo another has and what business is it of theirs?
I can't think of an instance aside from the north Hollywood shootout/robbery in which having more than a couple boxes of ammo per shooter made any difference.

 

[taliv]

while i've never heard of an ammo limit, there is actually a federal regulation that puts a limit on primers stored in one location, which i believe is 10,000 (or "OMG time to reorder!!!" around here)

 

[bearcreek]

while i've never heard of an ammo limit, there is actually a federal regulation that puts a limit on primers stored in one location, which i believe is 10,000 (or "OMG time to reorder!!!" around here)

Never heard of that. Certainly good to know though if true. Can you give us a link to that law?

 

[CoalTrain49]

lol what the heck are you talking about

State fire codes, lease, rental and ins. contracts.

You must not have any. In which case there isn't anything to worry about.

 

[bearcreek]

State fire codes

You're saying there are state fire codes that limit the amount of ammo that can legally be stored in a private home?

 

[Kaeto]

In some states yes.

 

[bearcreek]

In some states yes.

Which ones? Links? Any free states?

 

[moe.ron]

I don't think there are limits in California, but I only searched for a few minutes. If there are no limits here, I doubt there are anywhere.

 

[Warp]

State fire codes, lease, rental and ins. contracts.

You must not have any. In which case there isn't anything to worry about.

Please provide some kind of reference, link, citation, etc, showing a "state fire code" limiting the amount of ammunition you can keep at your residence...particularly if it's some utterly ridiculous number like 1,000 rounds.

Or a lease or rental agreement even, I'd take anything.

while i've never heard of an ammo limit, there is actually a federal regulation that puts a limit on primers stored in one location, which i believe is 10,000 (or "OMG time to reorder!!!" around here)

Yeah that one is a bummer. I've only reloaded 400 or so rounds but I'm collecting components so I can when I take the time in the future...10k primers isn't that many considering the need to buy in bulk to make use of hazmat shipping, and how volatile availability can get.

The typical smokeless powder guideline (I don't even remember, is it 20 lbs? 25?) seems less annoying

 

[Old Dog]

CoalTrain49 stated:

State fire codes, lease, rental and ins. contracts.

I don't think so. You're gonna have to show some cites on this one. While there may be some individual city codes somewhere (and I haven't found 'em) limiting the amount of firearms ammunition one can have in one's residence ... I want to see some documentation.

 

[AzShooter1]

I have too much ammo when all my cases for each caliber have been loaded. This week I loaded 1500 9 mms. Now I need to change the press over to .38s.

 

[HammsBeer]

Ha ha, I get such a kick out of threads like this!

Too much ammo? No such thing (except for the aforementioned drowning/on fire).
Limits on how much ammo you can keep? Don't know of any such local ordinances, even in the most oppressive cities.

And a 1000 rounds is chump change. Just this month I've stashed another 4000 rounds of 9mm and 3000 rounds of 5.56, all on sale.
Don't be foolish and bemoan others who have the foresight to buy it cheap, stack it deep, and end up with comfortable reserves like this:
35k of centerfire and 20K of rimfire.
But I'm woefully low on shotshells (under 1K).

 

[CoalTrain49]

Can you cite any cities that limit residential ammo storage to 1000 round limit?

What? You want me to research every state and city's fire code to prove your point. You must be joking. Every state and city adopts their own fire code. Heck, they even write their own sometimes just like they write their own firearms restrictions.

Obviously you have never worked for a local gov't.

 

[CoalTrain49]

You're saying there are state fire codes that limit the amount of ammo that can legally be stored in a private home?

http://goal.org/masslawpages/ammostorage.html

 

[MachIVshooter]

http://goal.org/masslawpages/ammostorage.html

Hahaha. You might wanna find something a little more restrictive to support your claims. This is a long dang way from "fire code prohibits more than 1,000 rounds". It's not a fire code at all, but clearly states:

(1) Exemption: License, Registration, or Permit: In accordance with the provisions of M.G.L. c. 148 § 13, the Board hereby prescribes the following quantities of explosive materials that shall be exempt from License, Registration, and Permit and may be kept, or stored in a building or other structure:

(a) Small Arms Ammunition

1. Not more than 10,000 rounds of rim fire ammunition.

2. Not more than 10,000 rounds of center fire ammunition.

3. Not more than 5,000 rounds of shotgun ammunition.

And then:

.....provided a permit has been obtained from the head of the local fire department;

(a) Small Arms Ammunition: Private Use. Small arms ammunition in amounts over that specified in 527 CMR 13.04(1), that do not exceed 100,000 total rounds at any one time, may be kept for private use provided none of the individual limitations listed below are exceeded.

1. 10,001 to 30,000 rounds of rim fire ammunition.

2. 10,001 to 50,000 rounds of center fire ammunition not to include shotgun ammunition.

3. 10,001 to 50,000 rounds of shotgun ammunition not to include center fire ammunition.

And that's in one of the most heavily restricted states

 

[yugorpk]

5.7X28 dropped to $14 a box today so I bought 5000 rounds. It won't substantially add to my horde.

 

[poboy6]

Obviously you have never worked for a local gov't.

This tells us all we need to know about CoalTrain and his political affiliation.

As for ammo and money, just last year I traded some .22lr for a 22 rifle to give to the wife. The ammo was worth 3x what I paid for it and the other guy was happy because he wasn't able to find any 22lr locally. Had I not bought it on sale a few years prior then I would not have come out ahead on the deal.

If you have even one extra day's worth of food then you yourself are a prepper/survivalist. Why not just go to the store every single day to buy food? Obviously there are many reasons: cost, time, convenience, etc...

 

[Warp]

What? You want me to research every state and city's fire code to prove your point. You must be joking. Every state and city adopts their own fire code. Heck, they even write their own sometimes just like they write their own firearms restrictions.

Obviously you have never worked for a local gov't.

I would like for you to support your statements.

Yes, I have worked for a local government.

Can you support your claims?

 

[ljnowell]

I would like for you to support your statements.



Yes, I have worked for a local government.



Can you support your claims?

Of course he can't, you hoarding prepper.

 

[bearcreek]

http://goal.org/masslawpages/ammostorage.html

That's hilarious dude. You say there are states whose regs limit people to 1000 rds and then cite one of the most restrictive states in the US whose regs limit people to 100,000 rds. Not really helping your credibility.

 

[Manny]

Hahaha. You might wanna find something a little more restrictive to support your claims. This is a long dang way from "fire code prohibits more than 1,000 rounds". It's not a fire code at all, but clearly states:



And then:



And that's in one of the most heavily restricted states

Much as I hate to praise anything that comes out of the socialistic state of Massachusetts I have to admit their limits don't seem too terrible for a minimum supply other than the stingy limits on rimfire. Two cases of my favored CCI Blazer @ 5250 per case would put me over . The expanded limits are a goal worthy of attainment and should stand all but the most active shooters in good stead.

The arbitrary limit of 1000 rounds of center fire before you are either a survivalist, competitor or jihadist strikes me as troll worthy, as do most of that posters follow ups.

 

[CoalTrain49]

I'll agree that 1K was a bit conservative.

According to this poll 71% of the people that responded had less 5000 rds of ammo on hand.

http://content.screencast.com/users...37-4652-90e2-5a2b58fd5e49/2011-09-13_2035.png

If you have more than 5K you aren't an average shooter. If you aren't an average shooter than you must have some other reason for stockpiling ammo.

I'll leave it there.