How realistic is 600 yards with iron sights?

[funfaler]

Fine shooting and fun thread.

The secret to shooting out to 500-600 yards is that there is no secret, just basics. Many folks think it too "magical" to be able to shoot out past 100 yards. This is the fun part of Appleseeds, is that they are instilling those basic (better termed fundamental) skills in "average" Americans.

500 yard accuracy, 90% hits or better with rack grade rifle, surplus ammo, iron sights, in field positions, is the goal of an Appleseed Rifleman, and is obtainable by any moderately healthy rifle shooter.

Doc Don't wait to get health to host an Appleseed, the Wolverine State needs one this summer.

I have been in contact with Williams Gun Site in Davison, as well as a couple of others in MI, but no one seems interested beyond getting some paper work sent to them.

BTW, FREE Appleseed in Douglas, WY if anybody wants one Yep, anybody that pre-registers for this Appleseed will shoot FREE, it is on September 6-7. Check out http://www.rwva.org for the shoot information.

 

[qwert65]

Very nice shot!

 

[MinnMooney]

That is some impressive, 1st try shooting at 600 w/a peep. I really love the countryside that you're shooting in. Beautiful, scenic vista.

 

[MTMilitiaman]

I really love the countryside that you're shooting in. Beautiful, scenic vista.

There is advantages to living in the sticks. The scenery is one of them, but not the greatest.

 

[amprecon]

The M1A is a great rifle, I think it should be the official American Militia rifle.

 

[lionking]

600 yds in considered midrange?I feel like a noob now.


great thread!

 

[jjohnson]

Good for You!

Nice job!

I'm always irritated by the Mall Ninjas who insist on shooting their assault rifles on the PISTOL RANGE - after a few mags, I sometimes ask 'em if they're done zeroing their weapons so they can take their rifles to the RIFLE range.

Yep, it's all doable. You just proved it. I used to knock down the silhouette targets about 90% on the Known Distance range at 400 meters with an iron sighted M16A1 so I'm not surprised you could do well at 600. Keep up the good work and don't believe what other people tell you about what
can't be done. Maybe THEY can't - but you can.

 

[TEDDY]

Long range shooting

I shot in a match at 600 yrds and got 47 ot of 50 points.used a national match M1 garand.my father won the Winship medal in NG back in the 20s? with a WW1 1903.before WW2 there were many shooters that shot 1000 yrds.as you could shoot on NG ranges.my first experiance was pulling targets at 60 cents an hr for civilian shooters.that was twice what the prevalling wage was.also many schools and churchs,legions, and others had rifle teams. the NRA used to publish the scores on jr matches. W R Hearst sponsered postal matches and I shot in one team that usually was in first 3 places.week ends the NG ranges were full of civilian shooters.I will stick with my 1903 and M1.
I an 84 now

 

[goldie]

That is great shooting, the russians shot german soldiers in wwII at 600 yds,too.they could have used you.ive seen morons at a 25 yard range shooting ar15's & mini 14's putting their targets at 7 yards ! pathetic! i wish they could see this,they would be embarrased

 

[Archie]

As mentioned, the target set up for 600 yards in NRA High Power (and the Marine Corps, in 1969) was a six foot by six foot white square with a 36 inch black dot in the middle.

With 1x1 lumber and a sheet or two from the Salvation Army, one might put together a portable target hanger to make life simpler.

By the way, two out of ten in the circumstances you outline is very good shooting. I really like the M14 (M1A) mechanism. They respond very well to handloads as well. a 168 grain BTHP bullet and a suitable dose of IMR4895 is a very reliable and accurate round.

 

[1911Tuner]

Offered as proof that every Marine is an 0311.

Militiaman...the M1A/M14 platform is underrated by those who have never gotten cozy with it, as you've seen here. Back when I had better eyes, I used to amaze myself a lot with one that hadn't even been bedded...though it did have a match barrel.

If you handload, try 42.5-43.0 grains of IMR 4895 and a good 168-grain bullet. I always favored Hornady's 168-grain Match. In my rifle, it seemed to edge out Sierra's 168 Matchking...but experimentation may show a different result for yours. I also hear good things about the Palma 155, but haven't tried it.

Next trip, use some wind flags every hundred yards. You can make'em on the cheap with dowel rods and ribbon. You'll need a spotting scope to accurately read the more distant ones, but a good, clear 8X-12X rifle scope will do in a pinch, plus it will help you to dope any mirage. With the right load, that rifle will mystify you.

 

[moooose102]

makes me wish i had my 300 yard range again. GOOD SHOOTING! with my eyes, i wouldnt even attempt such a shot with open sights. for me, open sights are for 50 yards, or LESS!