How terrorists get guns

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Why would terrorists bother to buy neutered guns from a FFL anyway?

Wouldn't it be easier to sneak machineguns and rockets across the Mexican border along with all the illegal drugs and immigrants?
 
"For the last four years, the Bush White House and Republican leaders in Congress have been pursuing gun policies that are on the wish list of the National Rifle Association (search) despite repeated warnings form law enforcement leaders," Hamm said. "These policies benefit terrorists and benefit criminals."
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thats a bunch of crap
 
They want to require that these sale records are to be kept for 10 years :what: . If these people are buying guns through legal means, than why not just change the law so that these people can't acquire them. What good is it when you only have a paper record saying they own a gun. Better yet, why not arrest them?

Even with all the legislation changes, the terrorists are still going to get their guns either way. The only difference is, they would probably be unneutured and more dangerous.
 
unreal45 your not calling me out its a C&P from Fox news.
Posted for general information.
Sorry, you have wasted your TROLL ALERT on me.
 
The question becomes, where is the much vaunted cooperation between law enforcement, intelligence, and anti-terror government agencies? How would keeping the forms for 10 years help to prevent a terrorist attack? Is under investigation sufficient cause to abrogate any citizen's rights? If the firearms background check gets run on a terror suspect doesn't that cause a flag to go up? Didn't they just falsify the "violent overthrow" part of the yellow form? etc.
 
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Howdy Sheep

Before the Los Angeles riots, there were gun stores getting hit.

Shortly after the riots, some news guys went out to purchase weapons in the street...Brand new Sig 226 went for $150. And the dealer threw in a .38 snubbie to "sweeten" up the deal.

Another dealer was selling "modified" automatic weapons. Just to convince you to buy his Ak's..he'd fire a full magazine in automatic mode...in the foyer of an apartment building..Yikes!

These "terrorists" don't have to buy "watered down" weapons legally when they can buy cheaper and "modified." :uhoh:
 
Sheepdip sorry if I reacted too soon.
I read the title of the post and then the article.
Since you hadn't commented on the article.
I assumed you agreed with it.
My apologies. (I will edit my post)
 
When most Americans think "terrorist," we usually superimpose our own stereotype that has been ingrained by Hollywood.

When the .gov thinks "terrorist," it thinks of anyone who could be a threat to them. Folks, this includes those fring thinkers that believe that the Constitution should be strickly interpreted and that the 2nd Amendment is a doomsday provision, etc. Modify that with the word "suspected" and the net get even broader. :uhoh: It is not OK to modify the law to barr sales of firearms to "suspects" who are neither fugatives nor have been charged with any crime. :fire:
 
The real problem with this is that anyone who gets crosswise with one of these agencies can find themselves on a "person of interest" list. You don't have to be a proven terrorist, just a “possibly suspected†wanna'be. A neighbor’s unsubstantiated report could block a person from every (legally) buying a gun.

One can see the clear hand of anti-gunners behind this. Anything that might hamper gun sales is A-Plus in their perspective. They are also following their SOP by sensationalizing the issue rather then offering much hard evidence that anything they propose would really thwart a serious terrorist.
 
"...suspects..."

Whatever happened to "innocent until proven guilty?"

That aside - I'd support an alien restricted rule too...
 
Just how many "terrorist" acts involving guns (both legally and illegally obtained) have there been in the US since 11 Sep 2001???



I haven't heard of any...... (unless you consider the DC snipers terrorists, but I consider them whack jobs, terrorist have some kind of a politcal agenda and goal).




The whole "Terrorist can buy guns from illegal Saturday Night Specials on the corner to legally acquiring the .50 BMG Super Duper One Shot-One 747 going down in flames laser guided sniper rifle" is a Red Herring. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Change the debate. We want them to use guns rather than bombs (IED's) and box cutters, it draws them out into the open, and the Police and CCW holders can then positively ID their targets. :neener: :neener:
 
Whatever happened to "innocent until proven guilty?"
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The Patriot Act that Junior wanted.....The feds can hold you forever without Due Process....or when overturned by the Supreme Court........
All they have to say, is that you are a Terrorist!!!!
I agree that non citizens should have fewer rights than Citizens....
 
Just remember - we're all potential terrorists.

That said, if the nimrods in Washington want to really truly make sure someone is on the 'don't get to buy guns' list, why don't they make sure that all the little lights and bells and whistles go off when the NICS check gets called in?

I think it's Washington's fault.
 
Hmmmm....I wonder if they also buy airline tickets from American Airlines, or gas from Shell Oil, or fertilizer from Quality Farm and Fleet, or box cutters from Staples? Simply put- Why the hell are they still in the US?
 
Got to love the liberal news, so full of @&%$ I can't stand to read or watch any of it. I get my news online from many different sources. It's just a pitty that all the sheeple in this country buy into that crap without any thought of their own. I'm certain I will hear about this at work and in the bar and the sheeple will spew this article at me as fact. :banghead:
I have no doubt that if these people were doing anything wrong, they'd be arrested. If they're on the "terrorist" list, then why are they roaming free. To reiterate, they could get much better & cheaper weapons off the streets. If the gov't wants to take weapons away then that will just make it that much easier for the true terrorists to succeed.
 
i thought terrorists picked their guns off the forbidden tree that grows on the grounds of any gunshow.

the only reason we have mouseguns is cause people pick them when the guns arent ripe enough.
 
Interesting, I just caught a snippet on this, don't recall which news agency, where the guy says even if a person on the watch list were to attempt to buy a gun they might just let it go through because not selling them a gun might tip them off that theyre on the watch list.

now what?

:confused:
 
I ti seasier (and far cheaper) to buy them of tweeker burgulars on the street than to have them show up at a gun show filled with patriots.
 
Person of....

The term, "Person of interest" is getting to be scary. It can mean what they want it to mean with little or no accountability. :uhoh: :uhoh:
 
Whoa.... hold on here!
The report showed that from Feb. 3 through June 20, 2004, 35 known or suspected terrorists purchased guns in the United States. From July 1 to Oct. 31 last year, 12 more suspected or known terrorists were allowed to buy firearms.
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Currently, records related to gun purchases must be destroyed within 24 hours as mandated by Congress last year.
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What happened to the NCIC record of purchase being immediately destroyed? How does the GAO go back a year and look at these things? Hmmm...? :scrutiny:
 
terrorists get guns

I bet those mean 'ol terrorists are shaking in their boots knowing that their purchase might be on a list for ten years!
 
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