Sistema1927
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I am an RLC Republican.
How Would You Describe Your Political Philosophy?
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Republican trending toward Democrat and will probably eventually become Socialist. Guess my age is showing.
Under the Republicans the USA has lost millions of jobs to outsourcing. Now George is talking about screwing more Americans by abolishing social security - many Americans depend on it. With no job, somebody has to pay for food.
Maybe Hillary will get elected in 2008. I don't think she will mess with SS or Medicare.
A few years from now when I am really old, still paying high taxes, I expect government to help me out - some payback is due.
I feel sorry for you guys under 50.
Under the Republicans the USA has lost millions of jobs to outsourcing. Now George is talking about screwing more Americans by abolishing social security - many Americans depend on it. With no job, somebody has to pay for food.
Maybe Hillary will get elected in 2008. I don't think she will mess with SS or Medicare.
A few years from now when I am really old, still paying high taxes, I expect government to help me out - some payback is due.
I feel sorry for you guys under 50.
beerslurpy
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Dont feel sorry for us. We know social security is a scam and we are saving up plenty of money for retirement. If we still have social security by the time I am 40-50, I will start taking money off shore in preparation for becoming an ex-pat. If I dont have enough money by then I will just keep working until I do. Same way my anscestors did it- with no handouts and no help from the government. Just good old american ingenuity and industriousness.
I feel sorry for myself and for our children and grandchildren if we continue to permit this cannibalization of the most productive members of our society to support the least productive.
I feel sorry for myself and for our children and grandchildren if we continue to permit this cannibalization of the most productive members of our society to support the least productive.
White Horseradish
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I would be an anarchist if I wasn't enough of a realist to see that anarchy does not work for the same reason that communism failed - human nature. A somewhat realistic anarchist is a libertarian, so there we have it. I believe the only reason for laws to exist is to protect either individuals or society from harm. If it does not harm anyone, government has no business regulating it. In effect, I stand with the folks that have said similar things already.
Back in the 1970's or so there was this joke in Russia:
What is the difference between an optimist and a pessimist?
- The optimist studies English.
- The pessimist studies Chinese.
- The realist studies Avtomat Kalashinikova
As I mentioned above, I consider myself a realist. My present view on firearms was greatly influenced by the Long Island Railroad massacre, where Colin Ferguson kept shooting at defenceless people because no one on the train had the equipment to stop him. I lived in Queens at the time, and it struck kinda close to home.
Back in the 1970's or so there was this joke in Russia:
What is the difference between an optimist and a pessimist?
- The optimist studies English.
- The pessimist studies Chinese.
- The realist studies Avtomat Kalashinikova
As I mentioned above, I consider myself a realist. My present view on firearms was greatly influenced by the Long Island Railroad massacre, where Colin Ferguson kept shooting at defenceless people because no one on the train had the equipment to stop him. I lived in Queens at the time, and it struck kinda close to home.
45Badger
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Fiscal conservative, social liberal/libertarian.
Money note to all elected officials- Do not waste another friggin' dime of my hard earned money. Spend it wisely, do not spend it if we do not have it, and do not mortgage my children's future trying to make today feel better.
Live and let live. I promise that my actions will not bring any harm to you. You should do the same. While you're at it, save yourself. Don't worry about me, the children, Terry Schiavo, evolution, gays in the military, Bill Frist, Hillary Clinton, or anything or anybody that somebody does that does not physically affect you.
Extremely disappointed in current Repub so called leadership. Chasing waste of time social issues, being seriously irresponsible with money, not helping the environment. Only Hillary scares me more.
Gun freakiness stems from the "live free or die" libertarian bent in my brain.
Money note to all elected officials- Do not waste another friggin' dime of my hard earned money. Spend it wisely, do not spend it if we do not have it, and do not mortgage my children's future trying to make today feel better.
Live and let live. I promise that my actions will not bring any harm to you. You should do the same. While you're at it, save yourself. Don't worry about me, the children, Terry Schiavo, evolution, gays in the military, Bill Frist, Hillary Clinton, or anything or anybody that somebody does that does not physically affect you.
Extremely disappointed in current Repub so called leadership. Chasing waste of time social issues, being seriously irresponsible with money, not helping the environment. Only Hillary scares me more.
Gun freakiness stems from the "live free or die" libertarian bent in my brain.
lee n. field
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It has, actually.
"Well regulated" means something different now then when written 2.x centuries ago. "Shall not be infringed" seems to be a void concept now, meaning precisely nothing to most of it's hearers.
Aguila Blanca
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First: "A" (as in apolitical)
Second: My grandfather said a man should know how to use a firearm ... so he showed us.
Refirignis
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1. libertarian-constitutionalist (note the lack of a capital 'l') with a strict interpretation of the Constitution.
2. "The right of the individual to buy, keep, and bear military weapons of war shall not be abridged."
My views are that all victimless crime laws are bull????, that everyone should cease to be a contracted 14th Amendment citizen ("United States citizen") as soon as they are able, and I don't care what others do unless they mess with my property.
(.1) I agree with Patrick Henry, have ever since I read anything about him - I suppose that makes me an Anti-Federalist with leanings toward anarchy.
My stuff, hands-off.
My money, hands-off.
My rights, hands-off.
(.2) Logically you have only one rational means of enforcing those things, especially against overwhelming numbers of people hostile to the concept.
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My stuff, hands-off.
My money, hands-off.
My rights, hands-off.
(.2) Logically you have only one rational means of enforcing those things, especially against overwhelming numbers of people hostile to the concept.
-K
Spiphel Rike
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I'm a funny one.
I believe strongly in the right to own whatever kind of weapon you like (not nuclear, biological or nerve agents and the like).
I support genetic engineering, science (stem cell research) and believe that abortion is justified in some cases.
Some of my beliefs will have me labelled as a weirdo, but they're MY beliefs so that's that.
Otherwise i'm reasonable, don't waste my tax dollars, don't say or do stupid things e.t.c
I believe strongly in the right to own whatever kind of weapon you like (not nuclear, biological or nerve agents and the like).
I support genetic engineering, science (stem cell research) and believe that abortion is justified in some cases.
Some of my beliefs will have me labelled as a weirdo, but they're MY beliefs so that's that.
Otherwise i'm reasonable, don't waste my tax dollars, don't say or do stupid things e.t.c
Mongo the Mutterer
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I've noted a lot of us have said "libertarian" in this post. Me too, I guess. The Republicans I grew up with have become Democrats. The Democrats are really off the reservation, screaming Socialists and Commies. So that leaves the Libertarians, because I think the Greens should be stripped naked and dropped in the Amazon with nothing. If they want to go back to nature, let'em.
I am a social liberal and very very conservative fiscally. I don't care what you do with your life, it is your business. Just don't make it mine by parading your "lifestyle" or whatever. I don't care how folks have sex, I just hope they get enough because it makes things more peaceful. By the way, I am not going TO PAY for your lifestyle.
On the second part, I have studied history enough, and seen the 100 million or so people killed by THEIR OWN governments in the last century. To disarm would be absolutely suicidal.
I am a social liberal and very very conservative fiscally. I don't care what you do with your life, it is your business. Just don't make it mine by parading your "lifestyle" or whatever. I don't care how folks have sex, I just hope they get enough because it makes things more peaceful. By the way, I am not going TO PAY for your lifestyle.
On the second part, I have studied history enough, and seen the 100 million or so people killed by THEIR OWN governments in the last century. To disarm would be absolutely suicidal.
Talkers / Posters not doers
that's what we all are here, from what I see.
We lost the first part our nation/rights starting with the 12th Amendment. Then the rest starting with FDR and continuing to now.
I don't see anyone here who is going to do anything but blame Bush, point a finger at everyone but themselves, have some cheese with their whine, and take no responsibility for their own actions.
Libertarian / Republican my bu--.
CAWs, IMHO..
that's what we all are here, from what I see.
We lost the first part our nation/rights starting with the 12th Amendment. Then the rest starting with FDR and continuing to now.
I don't see anyone here who is going to do anything but blame Bush, point a finger at everyone but themselves, have some cheese with their whine, and take no responsibility for their own actions.
Libertarian / Republican my bu--.
CAWs, IMHO..
Fletchette
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Pretty cynical opinion, isn't it? Afterall, you have no idea what we do outside of posting on this site (some of us may actually be *gasp* politically active!)
That said, talking, posting and otherwise communicating *is* doing something, as it helps develop a concensus for concerted action. Were the Founding fathers just wasting their time with all those silly Costitutional Congresses, or the postings of thier opinions in their Federalist Parpers?
One of my optimistic hopes for this country is that technology like the internet keeps the form of govenrment our Founders envisioned a viable one despite the amount of people now on the planet.
Oh, by the way, welcome to The High Road...
Molon Labe
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Libertarian, though I certainly don't agree with everything in the Libertarian Party's platform. I believe abortion is murder, for example.
shermacman
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dvines:
First of all: Welcome!
Second: That will go down in the record books as one of the dumbest, most arrogant first posts in history.
You have no idea how much hard work many of us put into our local governments, state and Federal. You have no idea what we do to encourage friends and acquaintances on behalf of RKBA issues.
But more importantly, given your idiotic first post, why are you here? Is it to spew garbage? Or is it to enlighten us pathetic morons?
First of all: Welcome!
Second: That will go down in the record books as one of the dumbest, most arrogant first posts in history.
You have no idea how much hard work many of us put into our local governments, state and Federal. You have no idea what we do to encourage friends and acquaintances on behalf of RKBA issues.
But more importantly, given your idiotic first post, why are you here? Is it to spew garbage? Or is it to enlighten us pathetic morons?
Careful how you use the word: "we".
RealGun
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That works for me, except that I would have a community interest in what children learn about life and living and the quality of parenting. I would stress critical thinking, not brainwashing...both rights as well as responsibilities. I am not sure people have a right to be stupid, if stupidity becomes society's biggest burden.
Baba Louie
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Methinks he doth protest too much with an opening post spewing forth as such. But then again, everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion
Blame Bush?
You've got to be kidding.Lots of politicians and bureaucrats deserve more than a pointed finger. (Which finger by the by?)
I'd opine that the vast majority of people on this board are the type to take TOTAL responsibility for their own actions... having been here since THR morphed form TFL's quasi-shutdown and having read more than one or two threads/posts...
But... WhaddaIknow?
Oh, and dvines... Welcome to THR Me? I'd classify myself as a Neo-Non-Partisan-Boy-Scout-Environmentalist-Self-Sufficient-Be-Prepared-Helper-of-Others-When they-REALLY-need-it-Conservative-Liberal wannabe...who believes in well behaved children, firearms, books, science, music, intelligent pretty women, dogs and cats and leaving people alone for the most part.
Is there a Cynical Curmudgeon Party? If not, there oughta be...
To quote/paraphrase Will Rogers, "Thank Goodness we DON'T get all the Government we're paying for...Yet" (Tho' Uncle Sam is trying awfully hard at times)
Control Group
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Describe my political views? Individualist. That's the only one that matters. And not in any kind of hippie-dippie "I'm expressing my individuality as a beautiful and unique snowflake that's just one part of Gaia's eternal whole" way, in the simple "society exists to serve the individual" way. That is, the betterment of individuals is the goal. This is as opposed to the opposing party, collectivists: "the individual exists to serve society."
Everything else follows from that, most especially the politics of guns. It's the first thing you need to find out from someone before debating the topic with them. If they're collectivist, then there's no arguing the 2nd, self-defense, statistics, or any of the other normal points with them. They want to ban guns to protect society as a whole, and do not see any problem with sacrificing individuals (both individual rights to own firearms, and individuals as victims of violent crime) to that cause. Every intellectually-honest anti (and they certainly exist) is a collectivist.
As an individualist, my rights and my safety are more important than the well-being of society (not than the well-being of the other individuals that make up society, of course, but more important than society itself). Therefore, it's obvious that I should have the right to weaponry at least as good as that used by society to defend itself (i.e., the military and the police).
Everything else follows from that, most especially the politics of guns. It's the first thing you need to find out from someone before debating the topic with them. If they're collectivist, then there's no arguing the 2nd, self-defense, statistics, or any of the other normal points with them. They want to ban guns to protect society as a whole, and do not see any problem with sacrificing individuals (both individual rights to own firearms, and individuals as victims of violent crime) to that cause. Every intellectually-honest anti (and they certainly exist) is a collectivist.
As an individualist, my rights and my safety are more important than the well-being of society (not than the well-being of the other individuals that make up society, of course, but more important than society itself). Therefore, it's obvious that I should have the right to weaponry at least as good as that used by society to defend itself (i.e., the military and the police).
RealGun
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Can you reconcile that with children being reared by communities, or is that wrong too?
Amen beerslurpy! I'm not relying on any corrupt Ponzi scheme to fund my retirement. Doing it the good old fashioned personally responsible way. After all, if you want something done right, you gotta do it yourself. I have no doubts that I will retire a millionaire (laughing? you shouldn't be! it's easy), a lot more than the Socialist Insecurity will give me.
Comments / Retorts / Excuses exactly as I envisioned.
As diverse as the group appears to be.
And they, the Comments / Retorts / Excuses, always allow me to better understand the "individuals" within a "group".
Thanks for the Welcome.
As diverse as the group appears to be.
And they, the Comments / Retorts / Excuses, always allow me to better understand the "individuals" within a "group".
Thanks for the Welcome.
Yanus
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1. just a little to the right of Genghis Kahn....... just a little
2. gun ownership? - I come from a long line of gun owners and users.
Yanus
2. gun ownership? - I come from a long line of gun owners and users.
Yanus
dvines - Y'know, if you want to find out what people do about the political situation, the place to look would be a thread titled something like "What do you do to change the US political situation?". This thread is only asking how people identify themselves, so of course you won't find talk about actions.
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