Hunting Rifle/Sniper Rifle - What's the Difference?

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A running joke is the use of the adjective "tactical" to refer to anything that's black. In a conversation, I was asked if there's any real difference between a hunting rifle and a sniper rifle other than the color of the stock. I'm not an expert on either activity, so I couldn't really answer intelligently, so I'm passing the question on to you.

What essential characteristics does a sniper rifle have that a hunting rifle doesn't? What does a SR have to do that a HR doesn't? Or vice versa, naturally.
 
The only difference I know of is in scopes - tactical or target scopes have the adjusting knobs and not the caps you take off.

I'd guess that any hunting rifle .30 caliber and over could also be used as a sniper rifle. That guy in the tower in Texas pretty much proved that.
 
Generally...

For reasons of terrain and hunting ethics, the vast majority of big game shots are taken at 400 yards or less. In the Midwest and East, the vast majority are taken at 120yards or less. This means that almost always, the shot is within the point-blank-distance of the cartridge, or some very rough Kentucky elevation is used (E.g.: aim 12" high at 300 yards).

Contrast to military sniper applications where range is routinely over 400 yards, and external elevation knobs or a BDC are used all the time on the optics.

Because of the difference in common range, the sniper rifle needs to be more accurate. For example, a 3MOA .30-06 is good enough for deer to 200 yards, but 3MOA isn't going to be precise enough for anti-personnel shots to 800 yards.

Alternatively, the H.R. can be much much lighter than your common S.R.

Before anyone starts flaming me, this is meant to compare generalizations of hunting vs. sniper rifles. Yes, you can have a very accurate hunting rifle, or use a PSS for deer.

-z
 
In the Army Counter Sniper manual the reccomendation for caliber for (a) countersniper weapon is .222 Remington to .257 caliber bolt action telescopically sighted rifle.

"I'd guess that any hunting rifle .30 caliber and over could also be used as a sniper rifle. That guy in the tower in Texas pretty much proved that."


Charles Whitman, the criminal who fired from the tower at the University of Texas at Austin primarily used a Remington bolt action in 6mm Remington with a telescopic sight. He also had a(n unscoped) bolt action .35 Remington and a M1 carbine as well as a 12 guage shotgun and 3 handguns.

http://www.crimelibrary.com/notorious_murders/mass/whitman/battle_5.html?sect=8

gbran has it quite correct. It's a subjective definition.

Regards,
Rabbit.
 
Most sniper rifles seems to be on the heavy side, while most hunters want something that doesn't weigh a lot. This is just a generalization.

I would tend to agree with Zak's comments. As a hunter, I doubt I will ever have the opportunity to shoot at anything over 300 yards, especially since I usually hunt in an area that is heavily forested with most shots under 100 yards.
 
The technical differences are small, except in price.:p The huge difference is political. Sniper rifles in the hands of civilians could be used to shoot politicians who violate their oaths to uphold the Constitution.

That's why any accurate, high powered rifle is a "sniper" rifle to way too many politicians.
 
That's a good general answer Zak. A common accuracy minimum for a sniper rifle is one MOA or 1" groups at 100yds. Any rifle capable of 1MOA along with a cartridge that has enough energy for a human at the desired range could be suitable for a sniper (along with quality optics with repeatable adjustments.) The thing that really makes a rifle a sniper rifle is the man behind the gun.

I wouldn't want to tangle with a Marine scout-sniper if I had a $3,000 custom rifle and all he had was a scoped TC pistol. Why? Because he has practiced stalking within 100 yards of trained observers and taken a shot without being identified, therefore, MY odds of spotting him outside of TC pistol range first (100-200yds+) are slim.:eek: :(
 
I think the term 'sniper rifle' was basically a product of the advent of semi-automatic battle rifles and the like. Back in 'the day' (like wwI and before) most rifles were bolts. With the coming of world war I/II, where semi-automatic rifles were more common and bolt actions ONLY got use as sniper rifles, the term 'sniper rifle' I assume got associated with bolt action rifles.

I'm sure if an army that formerly used lever actionss retired them, scoped them and issued them to snipers, they would be calling them sniper rifles as well.

Its also a catchy phrase to make people fear guns, kind of like 'saturday night specials'

This is all in theory, mind you. Just my $.02
 
Anti-second amendment types are losing the battle over "assault weapons" with the impending demise of the AWB. So the reaction is two fold: First, expand the definition of assault weapon from shoulder fired rifles to anything with a detachable magazine. Now you get to include a large percentage of pistols as an assault weapon.

Second, open up a new term so you can then build your own content. The term de jour is "sniper weapon." So-called sniper weapons are initially presented as a separate category of rifle but over time the definition will blend with hunting rifles. By the time the anti-2's are through, there will be no difference between the two. Chapaquitick Fats jumped the donut and screamed about sniper bullets thereby betraying his ultimate goal.

Remember this, Feinstein has already stated her endgame short of confiscation. She wants all rifles limited to single shot .22's.
 

This is a standard hunting rifle.
No politician would suggest taking it from any hunter.


This is a military sniper rifle.
Many politicians want it banned to protect the public.

Yes, they would take your hunting gun.
All they have to do is change the name.
 
Well, most rifles for hunters are churned out by the factory like Fords, Chevys & Dodge & Toyotas, you get the picture.

The sniper rifle is a more precision instrument that calls for greater attention to detail.

For instance, it's not uncommon to find a heavy barrel on a sniper rifle. Our varminters have heavy barrels too but let's put that on the back burner. Hunters don't want that type of weight as they are out for meat and not out to track down human opponents. Hence, the heavy barrel is generally not used by hunters.

Generally both sniper & the hunter's rifle have glass optics. The quality of the optics can vary for both with the deciding factor being the $. While some commercial scopes can rival the sniper scope in $, most of us don't spend that kind of $ on hunting scopes. While it is common today for sniper scopes to have range finding reticles, this feature may also be found on commercial scopes. The difference then is that most sniper quality scopes are design to withstand heavy use in the field. The USMC tested the Unertl by driving tent stakes into the ground with it and mounting it afterwards to see if it would still work. This isn't done with the common Big-5 or other scope for sportsmen.

Base & rings are super heavy duty (and ugly) and heavy on the sniper rifle. Snipers don't care about looks as everything is camouflaged anyway. By comparison, the hunter's rings are rugged but not super heavy. They're also a lot more attractive (can you say Conetrol for rings & base).

Trigger guards. Weight matters. Sniper rifles (or the better ones) have steel trigger guards. They are generally stronger and wont bend as readily and jam up the trigger like an aluminium one. They also allow for more torque to tighten the trigger guard to the receiver. It's generally 65 lbs for the sniper rifle and 45 lbs for the hunter's rifle (including the aluminium trigger guard Rem 700 PSS).

Accuracy - both can be accurate and I have Remington 700 BDLs that will shoot nickel size groups at 100 yards. However, it probably won't do that once the barrel heats up. Mind you, snipers aren't suppose to engage in firefights (their primary mission is to observe and gather intelligence) and if the mission calls for shooting, to be sparse with their ammunition (to reduce exposure to counterfire).

Stock - the hunter's stock can be wood, laminated wood, synthetics. So can the sniper's but the sniper stock must be stable, that is, not affected by temperature and humidity. Thus, whatever climate it goes in, the zero is not affected. Sniping rifles have had wood stocks but these were generally used in the days before the widespread adoption of synthetic stocks.
 
As I understand it, nearly all decent "hunting rifles" today shoot around 1-2 MOA with factory ammunition. If everyone had the benefit of precision military handloads, I'm sure the groups would be even tighter.

Basically, there's no difference at all. The hunter would be ill-advised to shoot at the distances military snipers do, simply because hunters care about giving their quarry a quick, clean kill. :)
 
Practically speaking, there is no difference.

A regular "hunting rifle" is perfectly suited for taking large game with one shot up to several hundred yards away. This is typically a .30 caliber rifle with scope, and perhaps a bipod...but can be anything from a .223 to a .50, break-action to semi-auto, iron sights to 20x night scope, offhand to bipod.

The quintisential "sniper rifle" is a bolt-action .308 with 10x 1-MOA-adjustable scope and bipod - smack dab in the middle of the category of "hunting rifle".

Thing is, it's not the tool that's the issue - it's the target.

If anything truly differentiates a "sniper rifle", 4v50 Gary got it right: a rifle built to a particular task with extreme precision and toughness. Few hunters will literally drag their rifle thru a mile of harsh terrain and still bet their lives on delivering one effective shot on a must-kill target.
 
ding ding ding.

we have a winner here.

ctdonath just hit one out of the park.


give that man a kewpie doll.
 
Where did the term 'sniper' come from?
A 'snipe' is a small bird that is (was) hunted in England. These 'snipe' were difficult to kill because they mostly kept themselves under cover, only exposing themselves for a short time. If one was 'good' at hunting these birds, they were called a sniper.
I learned this from one of the sniper shows on the history channel.
 
Thanks, guys. It seems that the primary hardware differences are weight and overall standards for toughness and accuracy. Willingness to trade functionality for aesthetics seems to be another field of discrepancy.

Much obliged for the information, now I just need to figure out how to get that topic to come up again without sounding like a gun nut... :D
 
Sniper did come from snipe shooting. A man said to be proficient in shooting these fast and difficult birds was dubbed a sniper. Purportedly the first application of the term to a combat man was applied by the British sometime in the 19th century. However, it wasn't used in reference to the riflemen of the 95th (they were called riflemen, sharpshooters, marksmen).
 
As I understand it, military issue sniper rifles are adapted from commercially available designs and parts.

Actually, now that I think about it, historically, MOST military firearms either ARE or were adapted from commercial designs.
 
How many deer rifles have adjustment knobs meant to be dialed in the field? The majority of them don't.
Mine does.

It's a Redfield... admittedly they're not TOO common on deer rifles, but they're pretty common on varmint and target rifles.
 
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