I just cannot warm up to the M&P9 trigger pull.

[Ben86]

I really love my S&W M&P9, except it's pathetic trigger pull. So many things are wrong with it. It is gritty, a little too heavy, has egregious over-travel and a mystery reset. The only thing it is not is a long trigger pull. The main thing getting to me is the over-travel. It causes me to yank the gun off target to the right no matter how slowly, smoothly and straightly I pull the trigger back.

Are there any other M&P owners that feel this way? If so how did you go about it remedying it?

I've switched back to my Glock 17 for now because I'm just not confident enough with my accuracy using the M&P9. I'm considering one of three things: trying to train to over come it (which seems impossible after 2 months of attempting that), doing a trigger job (apex tactical most likely) or sticking with my Glock 17 for good.

I really like the M&P9, it's just a shame they put such an awful trigger pull on that gun. I mean, who thought that trigger pull was something worth selling?

 

[btg3]

How about this?
http://www.burwellguns.com/M&Ptriggerjob1.htm

Or how about sell your M&P to me?

 

[highorder]

Follow that link to the Burwell trigger job. Its easy and will make a huge difference.

 

[jackblack86]

Well never had glock l love my 40c and I like the trigger if you need that glock feel apex has spring kits should fix you up

 

[Apocalypse-Now]

i couldn't shoot worth a darn with my two m&p's. sold them. i'm much better with my glocks

 

[SpookyPistolero]

The APEX stuff is supposed to be a huge increase in quality. I had a stock M&P9 that I couldn't seem to shoot well no matter what. I eventually sold it.

 

[Apocalypse-Now]

The APEX stuff is supposed to be a huge increase in quality.

it's not. slight increase in quality for a bunch of money is a more accurate description. m&p's with apex parts still don't have as good a trigger pull as glocks.

 

[shrewd]

i shoot my roommate's m&p9 all the time and I dont find the trigger pull to be something to complain about. Ive even thought about picking up an m&pC for myself because ive just grown fond of his pistol.

maybe if youre bullseye shooting at 30 yards or something it needs to be tweaked, but i feel using proper form/trigger pull there's no reason you shouldnt be acceptably accurate with any pistol.

naturally i'm a better shot with my cz75bd than his m&p, but i feel thats just due to the fact i'm more familiar/experienced with the cz, not due to a different/worse trigger

 

[cfullgraf]

I have installed Apex kits in two standard M&Ps and to me the triggers are better than the Smith trigger job in an M&P9Pro.

I found the M&P triggers took a bit to get used to. I have never fired a Glock so I cannot compare.

 

[Alex23]

A bad mechanic blames his tools.

I have a few glocks and an M&P 9c. It has a distinctive first stage and a second stage. It is a little gritty and personally I like that. The trigger break and reset are clean enough.

Suggest you run a couple hundred rounds through it and learn how to shoot it. If you can't be bothered, get a trigger job. X

 

[Jason_G]

My Dad is a deputy marshal, and their duty pistols are the M&P 9mm, with the M&P Compact as their BUG. The marshal had the entire office's duty pistols worked on at Clark's. The trigger still has the double hinge, so there is still some give to it before you get to the sear, but the pull is light and the break and reset are clean and predictable.

Jason

 

[Zerodefect]

All modern plastic guns have poo triggers. Noone seems to care about quality triggers anymore. Stupid pinchy bar safety rubbish in the middle of the trigger. Or the goofy split M&P trigger. :banghead: Those guns are designed to shoot well, not feel good and have nice triggers. Even with a trigger far worse than a childs capgun, or even a Laramie squirtgun, the Glock still can keep up with a 1911.

It's sickening to compare the M&P, XD, SR9, and Glock triggers to old fashioned quality triggers that should be obsolete. Like the 1911, Colt SA revolver, HK P7, P9 PSP's, etc. etc.

I was floored last time I got to borrow a HK P7, what a nice little steel gun with such a sweet, light trigger.

 

[jon_in_wv]

A bad mechanic blames his tools.

Amen. I think its much more likely the OP has trigger control issues with his FINGER. I've shot quite a few M&Ps including around 7000 rounds through mine and about 500 rounds through my wife's. There is nothing wrong with the M&Ps trigger. You've heard some people whine and you've decided your inability to shoot the weapon is the fault of the weapon. M&Ps are, in my experience, very accurate and reliable weapons. If you don't like them then trade it off and get a Glock or whatever other people have told you to get.

 

[Apocalypse-Now]

Suggest you run a couple hundred rounds through it and learn how to shoot it. If you can't be bothered, get a trigger job. X

i fired over a thousand rounds through both my m&p's, and still got horrible groups. the trigger pulls stink. also the generic, undefined feel of the grip doesn't help.

A bad mechanic blames his tools.

completely irrelevant to this situation.

 

[RightCoastBiased]

I've got no problems putting rounds where I want them with my M&P 45. I carry it everyday for duty and trust my life to it. I've shot glocks plenty of time and I personally don't see a big difference in triggers. I suppose it is what you are used to though and how refined your taste are.

I've heard good things about the apex parts, but don't feel the need to use them for my duty gun. Perhaps if I had an M&P for other purposes I would put in the apex parts.

I hope the M&P works out for you, I think they are really good guns. Best of luck!

 

[gc70]

My son and I both bought M&Ps several years ago. I got one to stop him from nagging me to buy a polymer gun and he got one to compare to his Glocks. I could not tell any significant difference between the triggers of the two brands, although I shot the M&P slightly better due to ergonomic differences in the guns. My son said the Glocks had a more positive reset, but the triggers were otherwise about the same. The M&P triggers did become clearly smoother after 500-1,000 rounds.

 

[Breakmyfootoff]

The Glocks have the best trigger of all the polymer combat style pistols IMO (at least in the 500.00 price range). Even though I like the Glock triggers better, I still wouldnt necessarily say the M&P or XD triggers are bad.

 

[Snowdog]

I don't have any experience with the M&P other than the M&P40c that I have and carry. The trigger isn't anything to brag about, but it's far from being anything I'd consider horrible. I warmed up to the trigger right away and can print some acceptable groups with it.

Perhaps I just got lucky and ended up with one that has a better-than-average trigger.

I haven't any problems keeping all my rounds in the black with my M&P.
On this particular target, I was able to do it with all 20 rounds from two magazines at 25 yards. I'm no expert, but I'd consider this more than acceptable. The trigger works for me.

 

[Ben86]

A bad mechanic blames his tools.

I have a few glocks and an M&P 9c. It has a distinctive first stage and a second stage. It is a little gritty and personally I like that. The trigger break and reset are clean enough.

Suggest you run a couple hundred rounds through it and learn how to shoot it. If you can't be bothered, get a trigger job. X

You really need to get out more and shoot some guns with better triggers. Then you will know where I'm coming from.

I get well enough combat accuracy with this gun. 3" at 25 yards is the norm unless I'm having a bad day. Perhaps I am scrutinizing it a bit much, I don't plan on using this gun for bull's eye shooting. I just can't help but be dissatisfied by the backlash that happens when I break the sear. I'm going to try one of those do it yourself jobs and see if I can't improve it. I really, really do like this gun otherwise.

Amen. I think its much more likely the OP has trigger control issues with his FINGER.

I think you have issues with baseless assumptions.

 

[jon_in_wv]

You really need to get out more and shoot some guns with better triggers. Then you will know where I'm coming from.

Do you mean like the tuned trigger on my 1911? I find it more than a little hypocritical you make the baseless assumption that I haven't shot other weapons than my M&P and you also state you don't have a problem shooting with the M&P trigger while you started a thread complaining about the same thing! And Backlash? What the heck are you talking about there? My assumption wasn't baseless but based on you own statements.

 

[StrikeFire83]

I found out a long time ago that at some point you have to stop fighting a particular gun and buy/shoot WHAT WORKS BEST FOR YOU.

If you're not with a police department or a military unit that requires you to use a single platform, why bend over backwards to fit yourself to a gun when there are so many great choices out there that might fit you better?

 

[jon_in_wv]

Amen, I have no idea why people whine and complain about their inability to shoot with a firearm rather than just getting another. I traded for a XD45 a while back and I found that shooting it accurately took much more effort than my M&Ps. I didn't like the trigger on it at all but you won't find any threads with me complaining about it. In fact many people really like the XDs and shoot well with them. I sold the XD and bought a 1911 that performs superbly. I shoot it nearly as well as I shoot my M&Ps. If you find shooting an M&P hard you should try shooting a Keltec P11 for a while. You'll sing the praises of the M&P trigger after that. I took my HP out a while back and I was completely stunned at the total lack of tactile reset on the trigger yet I and many many others can shoot it accurately as well. I think the problem with the M&P is people expect it to have a trigger just like the Glock but it doesn't. You have to adjust to shooting the M&P just like any other firearm. If you don't want to then get a Glock, Glocks have triggers just like a Glock.

 

[legion3]

Nope me neither.

S&W polymer framed guns always seem to struggle with their triggers.

 

[Usertag]

I love the M&P and its trigger. But if you can't warm up to its trigger. Then get a trigger job done on it, it is relatively cheap to get one done at your local gun store.

 

[Snowdog]

I took my HP out a while back and I was completely stunned at the total lack of tactile reset on the trigger

I've made the mistake a couple times of taking the HP and 1911s to the range on the same trip. It's not a problem for most folks, but it just reminds me how bad the trigger is on my HP.

I found out a long time ago that at some point you have to stop fighting a particular gun and buy/shoot WHAT WORKS BEST FOR YOU.

Yep, I learned that a couple years ago with my G19. It was an excellent pistol that I shot well enough, but found it uncomfortable. I finally sold it to someone who would appreciate more as it was fine pistol.