I love Rugers, but Ruger has ticked me off...and lost a sale.

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Ruger is probably my overall favorite brand of firearm, but the 10/22 I was planning to buy in the near future is on indefinite hold now.

Last year I bought a Mini 14 and had to send it back to the factory because of a point of impact problem. Now the sear on my P97 has developed a burr (a problem with the early P97s, I've learned) and it'll probably have to be sent back, as well. A Single Six I bought in 2001 took me three YEARS to get shooting worth a damn (as opposed to one that I bought in 1989, which has always been perfect, and is my all time favorite handgun).

This is irritating. Ruger is a good enough company that they should be able to get it right the first dadgum time.

I still want another 10/22 at some point, but now I'm wondering, if I bought one, would I have to send IT back, too?

I think I'll take the two bills I had earmarked for a 10/22 and get a Marlin bolt action .22 AND a NEF Youth .410 (a gun that I've wanted, not needed, for a long time -- should be perfect as a boat/creek/pondbank snake gun).
 
Everyone has a different experience with manufacturers. I own three Ruger products: a 22/45 I bought new, a GP100 I bought used, and a 10/22 I bought new. The 22/45 and GP100 have both functioned flawlessly. The 10/22 only gave me trouble after I started replacing parts, but I'm sure thats a cooincidence. Must be Ruger's fault. I'm sure I made no mistakes. :evil:
 
I have a new 10/22... it is flawless... and i've upgraded parts to make it better..

Now I had a NM Blackhawk in 45 Colt... we don't even want to get into a discussion of how poorly the tolerances were and what i went through to get it to shoot... thank god for places like sixgunner and beartooth bullets and their wealth of information... I finally sold it due to the aggrevation, bought a 686+ S&W and never looked back....

I have long fancied an M77 but who knows... maybe if they come out with a clean barreled model in 375 Ruger...
 
I have only had problems with their BlackHawks
One broke the transfer bar before I got it home and they wanted me to ship the gun to them to fix it instead of sending me the bar
The other was a front sight that flew off on the third shot, again nohelp from the manufacturer

I still like the guns but will only buy used, mostly becuase of their politics but also because the only plus I see in buying new is cutomer support which I have never received from them

The 10/22. Mk pistols and Vaquero( other than the cheap finish rusting) have never given any problems
 
Here:....
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...cut off the barrel if you must have a carbine length. Marlin makes good guns. Don't get pissed, get even - buy the compition.:D

My convertible six was a hoot-to-shoot, only gun I was sorry I sold.
 
Those things can certainly happen with other makes of firearms. They have for me ...

BTW, my P90 (early decocker model) had to be returned for a new slide (tempering problem); my early production Redhawk had to be returned for a new hammer & trigger; my first year production Super Blackhawk had to be returned for the jumping cylinder pin; my SP-101 required the assistance of the revolver armorer at work in order to resolve a problem (trigger movement became very difficult after a few cylinder loads - burred part which interfered when things heated up); and I remember when I had a Ruger .22 pistol with a Bull Barrel in the late 70's which had a functioning problem until I switched out one of the parts myself (Hammer? Can't remember.)

I've always liked Ruger firearms. Still do. Especially their single action revolvers. I have a couple of very nice Blackhawk Convertibles, an Old Model chambered in .357/9mm and a New Model chambered in .45 Colt/ACP. Their 10-22 is a handy .22 rifle, too. Wish I still had one. I've never been overly impressed with their Mini-14's, but I haven't handled and fired one of the new models.

Their customer service has always been fine for my needs. Not as swift as S&W, perhaps, but sufficient for my needs. Nice folks, too.

I've experienced and observed issues with other makes, too.
 
Every maker lets out a "Lemon" once in a while. High-school age hunting buddy had a Belgium-made A-5 that would have made JMB cry 'cause it had so many problems.

Took two trips back to Browning, but they finally made it right.

Rummaging through "Foggy's Artillery Locker".... Hmmmmm... Lemme see whats in here....
40th Year 10/22
NRA/Wm B Ruger comemmorative MKII
50th Year Single-Six
KP-90 .45ACP
Sheriff's Model Vaquero .357
50th Year .357 Blackhawk

Over the years, I have owned a Blackhawk of some type in most calibres, except the .30Carbine one

Yeah, I got a couple of Rugers floating around in there. Most difficult thing? Re-assembling the MKII the first few times.
 
I have a Ruger PC9 and a PC40 - the Police Carbines. GREAT shooters, absolutely. But each one weighs over 7 pounds. Catalog says 6-3/8 pounds (bad enough). They've been shipping them at over 7 pounds for years. This is a dopey mistake to allow on a "fast-handling little carbine". I called Ruger and they were friendly, and offered to give my money back - including tax, DROS, everything. I kept the guns.
 
What about the 10/22 clones that Magnum Research is selling? Are they any good? They look neeto (but admittedly more expensive than the Ruger).
 
I've had multiple problems with NIB Rugers made after 2000. Mostly GP 100s, and also a Bisley Special Edition. To date, I've had to get 4 NIB GP 100s fixed, and one Bisley.

Before 2000, I had NO problems with NIB Rugers.

I think Ruger is cutting back on their QC budget in order to stay competitive.

Sadly, the result is (in my case) lots of problems with NIB guns.

I still buy Rugers, and consider them to be good guns if they are right out of the box, but I no longer feel comfortable ordering them special order. If they are not at a gunstore (where they can be inspected for proper function), I won't order them.
 
Seems like EVERYBODY is cutting back on QC to stay competitive.

I bought a 10-22 three months ago. Put on a Butler folding stock and a red dot sight. Must be 500 to 800 rounds without a bobble so far and it's no tack-driver with that barrel-band, but it's a great little gun.
 
Hmmm....

All I can comment on is a 22/45 that has functioned better than probably any other handgun I own. Can't break the thing, I'm very happy with it.

Oh, also should say I have a Blackhawk in 45LC that hasn't given me a problem, although I don't shoot it much, and a 1967 produced 10/22 that is also flawless
 
11 Rugers, 6 rifles, 5 handguns

and no serious problems with any of them. But none of them were made after 2000, so I can't really say how they are today.
 
Ruger quality........ politics

Once again I see a comment on Rugers hi-cap mag stance.........
Re-search it, you'll find it was based on being able to continue the production of a well made weapon or having to drop it. From a business standpoint I understand their decision.
Quality? Been banging away with to many models to list. The only two I have built after 2000 is a 22-45, and a M77 Mark II in .270.
They have served well. I carry the 22-45 on fishing trips at 100 ft. you can sink a Water Moccasin easily, the .270 holds 37 kill tags on Tennessee deer.
I have had 1 warranty issue on a Red Hawk long barrel .44, the cylinder split in two chunks after shooting about 15 rounds through it, I bought it used, so I was impressed when they replaced it free of charge, even though I had bought it 2nd hand. They looked it over and said it appeared that "hot" hand loads were the fault. True or not..... I don't know as I had only shot factory through it.
I figure the guy I bought it from noticed the hair line cracks and rid himself of it.
Rugers, I love 'em
 
you'll find it was based on being able to continue the production of a well made weapon or having to drop it. From a business standpoint I understand their decision.
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How so
How would making a higher capacity magazine, a separate component from the rest of the gun, and selling it at market value force them to drop the gun as a whole?
 
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