My wife has 2 each 96’s…..lolDon't rule out a Beretta 96 if you cross paths with one. Or, if you have a 92, look for a 96 top 1/2 to convert that over.
If not that, I would go old school SIG over a Glock. Nothing wrong with the Glock, I just prefer a metal frame.
Note the P229 was designed for the .40 S&W.
Until the Gen 5 guns, the G23 was little more than a G19 with a .40 S&W barrel. The 3-pin design was to fix problems with the .40S&W guns, the Gen 4 was designed to fix problems with the .40 S&W guns, and the Gen 5 finally put a heavier slide on the .40 S&W guns. We'll see if that's the answer.
In fairness to the Glock fans, the Beretta 96 is another gun that was originally a 9mm gun that Beretta tried to make work with .40 S&W. The slanted dust cover, the Brigadier slide, and the frame buffer in the 92A1/96A1 were all attempts at making the .40 S&W work in the 90 Series guns. Considering all the 90 Series models Beretta now offers - probably more than they've ever offered - they currently offer only one model in .40 S&W, the 96A1, and my guess is Beretta would rather you shoot .40 S&W out of the PX4 or APX, two guns designed around the .40 S&W round.Don't rule out a Beretta 96 if you cross paths with one. Or, if you have a 92, look for a 96 top 1/2 to convert that over.
If they are the same price, and the SIG isn’t beaten up, I: say buy the SIG.used G23 here are $450~
used 229 here are $450~
$850-$1,00DANG MY CHOICE is MAdeIf they are the same price, and the SIG isn’t beaten up, I: say buy the SIG.
Here in SoCal, checking the local chain store consignment list shows people’s asking prices for Glock 22-23 .40 at $400-$500, and SIG 229 .40 $850-$1,100.
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Can’t do the Grip Zone man! LOLNeither- Springfield XD
Tom Givens on his journey to the .40 S&W. Had a G23, and "hated it". He did like the G35, though.Or should I stick to a Glock 23, had one 10 years ago. Liked it ok
Buy Glock 23 now (Consider LE trade in for even more savings ... Don't worry, they will shoot like new Glocks ... Shot over 120,000 rounds through my G17 and several hundred thousand rounds more through G22s for USPSA and they did fine ) and using 40-9mm conversion barrel/AA 22LR slide kit, you can save on ammuniton to buy another gun of your choice EVERY YEAR.$850-$1,00DANG MY CHOICE is MAde
I got 2 very boring and predictable Glock (17 & 17L). I think the Sig 229 Police trade-in might be under valued. I believe it was $450~ish at my Tacticool shop. Better jump on the Sig Arms 1990 229’s before people decide they are the New S&W semi-Auto from the 80’s. Those S&W Semiautos have gone crazy in price.Buy Glock 23 now (Consider LE trade in for even more savings ... Don't worry, they will shoot like new Glocks ... Shot over 120,000 rounds through my G17 and several hundred thousand rounds more through G22s for USPSA and they did fine ) and using 40-9mm conversion barrel/AA 22LR slide kit, you can save on ammuniton to buy another gun of your choice EVERY YEAR.
You are welcome.
I also don’t own any Sig’s, really want to try the Brick GunBuy Glock 23 now (Consider LE trade in for even more savings ... Don't worry, they will shoot like new Glocks ... Shot over 120,000 rounds through my G17 and several hundred thousand rounds more through G22s for USPSA and they did fine ) and using 40-9mm conversion barrel/AA 22LR slide kit, you can save on ammuniton to buy another gun of your choice EVERY YEAR.
You are welcome.
After working with new issue 1911s in my unit's armory in the Army (They were pretty rough out of the box to not even reliably cycle the slide ... I did foster my liking for 1911s though), I fell in love with X-Files FBI issue pistol and bought a German made Sig P226.I also don’t own any Sig’s, really want to try the Brick Gun
You inspire me to pullnout the Glocks for load testing RMR 147 Match Winners that just came in yesterday.After working with new issue 1911s in my unit's armory in the Army (They were pretty rough out of the box to not even reliably cycle the slide ... I did foster my liking for 1911s though), I fell in love with X-Files FBI issue pistol and bought a German made Sig P226.
Yes, it was buttery smooth (Nothing like military issue 1911s) and I shot USPSA matches along with 1911.
But on one "Bring your other guns" match practice days, fellow match shooter suggested I try his factory stock Glock 17. I had already laughed off Glocks as, "Who makes guns out of plastic? That's crazy" but after his insistence, I ran the practice match stage. To my surprise, I got pretty decent stage time with comparable double-tap accuracy. Thinking it was a fluke, I ran the stage again getting comparable double-tap accuracy but faster stage time.
"What? How?" was my reaction ...
Long story short, I ended up selling the P226 and bought Glock 17 and kept getting faster and faster stage times, even with factory trigger. Then I kept buying Glocks after Glocks (G17, G19, G26, G21, G30) then replaced USPSA caliber to 40S&W and competed with two G22s and bought G23, G27 ... Now I am in search of G20SF so I could shoot 40S&W out of it as I have a ton of components.
FWIW, compare these 25 yard groups - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/pistol-handloads-what’s-accurate-to-you.853942/page-2#post-11186517
This thread covers some of my 40S&W load development leading to my Gen3 G22 and BE-86 producing following group - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/rmr-180gr-fmj-rnfp.847523/#post-11050244
Since some could not believe shot groups obtained with BE-86 and factory stock Glock 22 (With well broken-in trigger), I asked THR member Dudedog to verify next range test in person and got the below group - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...ick-plated-bullets.761471/page-4#post-9646469
.40 is like 10mm but shorter, most factory.40I'm not wild about the 40 but I have one- a Glock 23. It is mostly used as a "woods gun/hunting sidearm".
Buy the SIG. The 226 and 229, to me anyway, are the perfect platform for the .40 S&W cartridge. I can't think of any other .40 (other than possibly the Beretta 96, which I personally like a lot) that handles the .40 S&W as well.Anybody ever try this gun? I have a junk load of .40 components and only 1 gun.
there seam to be a bunch around used.
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Or should I stick to a Glock 23, had one 10 years ago. Liked it ok
That too! A relatively forgotten round, but quite worthy and effective.If anything I would get a .357 Sig barrel to go with it.
The Mag rush! Good old days of buying everything you can find at SportCo and Sportman and Cabelas!Buy the SIG. The 226 and 229, to me anyway, are the perfect platform for the .40 S&W cartridge. I can't think of any other .40 (other than possibly the Beretta 96, which I personally like a lot) that handles the .40 S&W as well.
Unfortunately, with our new law, you're gonna have to downsize from the 12 round mags to 10 rounders (but it'd be the same with the 23 (13 down to 10) unless you ah, er, um, already own a stash you've been keeping for a rainy day...
The Glock 23 is a dime a dozen, the SIG is superior, especially for the .40 S&W.
That too! A relatively forgotten round, but quite worthy and effective.
Before the new AWB and mag ban took effect, I bought up multiple mags, in pairs and triples, for pistols I don't currently own, in anticipation of buying these guns when they started getting dumped... Of course, it's illegal to sell them in the state now, so I guess I'll just have to buy guns for 'em...The Mag rush! Good old days of buying everything you can find at SportCo and Sportman and Cabelas!