I need a high-mileage 9mm.

[bg226]

Hello,

Looking for a heavy-duty, high-mileage 9mm. Meaning a pistol that is designed to shoot a high number of rounds.

Lets keep it under $900

Thanks.

 

[kayl]

Sig P226. Hands down.

 

[Hauptmann]

Another vote for Sig P226. I can go into my agency armory and pic out a Sig that has been in constant service for over 20 years and it is still stone cold reliable and an incredible tack driver.

 

[ambulldog]

CZ P-01 or CZ SP-01

 

[GunTech]

Glock 19. Docmented examples with over 300,000 rounds through them. Chuck Taylor ran at least 175,000 rounds through his and wrote about it.

Sorry, but SIGs aren't that durable. My wife is on her third duty gun (after 20 years). All have been SIGs.

 

[bamabluesman]

The king of all 9's. BHP
Or save some money for ammo and get a CZ 75

 

[Black Majik]

For $900, any production 9mm is suitable as a high-mileage 9mm.

 

[tekarra]

cZ 75 for half of your budget!

 

[DomMega]

Springfield XD or S&W M&P.

Way under your budget and just as reliable as the expensive stuff.

 

[bamabluesman]

I just don't care what anyone says. If I plan on putting thousands of rounds through a gun. There is no way I'm gonna go with a PLASTIC gun. But then maybe I'm weird.

 

[DomMega]

I just don't care what anyone says. If I plan on putting thousands of rounds through a gun. There is no way I'm gonna go with a PLASTIC gun. But then maybe I'm weird.

Maybe you are because anatomically speaking polymer is stronger than any steel you'll find on other firearms. There's a reason that Law Enforcement and other agencies use polymer and its not because they look cool. I've already put thousands of rounds through my springfield and its more reliable than my 1911 P14. I have your run of the mill stainless and blued firearms, but if I had a choice of which weapon to grab in a life or death situation, I'm grabbing my XD. As to what you're willing to trust your life with is up to you.

 

[quickcanary]

Truth be told, you probably couldn't go wrong with Glock, HK, XD, or CZ.

Can you narrow it down by indicating some features and/or other qualities you'd like in the gun?

 

[Hauptmann]

Sorry, but SIGs aren't that durable. My wife is on her third duty gun (after 20 years). All have been SIGs.

Sig 226 = DA/SA with decocker total of 55 parts.
GLOCK 17 = Single action total of 34 parts.

Fewer parts to wear over time, and fewer parts require less lube and less maintainance. I guess if you are talking about shooting over 100,000rds of ammo then a GLOCK might be what you are looking for. However, most people will never fire their pistol over 1000 times and Sigs have a recommended service life of 20,000rds before a factory service. I don't think I've ever fired more than 10,000rds through a single pistol, and I don't think I ever will. I usually get mine scuffed up and want a new design before I reach that mark.

Personally, I'm not a fan of striker fired pistols. I used to own 5 GLOCKs, but sold them all after I found favor with traditional DA/SA. I like a two condition trigger in DA/SA, which gives me the ability to stick it in my pants for a Mexican carry safely in DA, and a SA mode which allows for more precise shooting at range. It's all personal preference really. I will pit any used Sig against any new GLOCK in an accuracy test at 25-50 yards. Sometimes I'll punch out a baseball sized hole in the head of my silhouette targets with my 226 at 25yrds. Sig hands down for accuracy. However, don't forget you'll likely be under stress in a shooting. Your heart rate goes from 70bpm to almost 200bpm and your complex motor skills are gone so if you have an adequate training ground, doing a few sprints before getting on the firing line will humble you.

As for Sigs, the only problems I've noticed with them in my time in the service and now in LE is poor user maintanance. Lets face it, most cops are poor equipment maintainers and only pull their pistol out of the holster at qualification time. I draw my pistol daily and ensure that it is in proper condition for use. I'll see officers with rusty grip nuts on their Sigs and I can only imagine what else might be poorly maintained. My current issue Sig is an older model made in W. Germany and virtually all of the finish is worn off. It was in average condition when I received it and I did my part by cleaning it up and blueing it. Since then it has functioned flawlessly, is a predictable tack driver, and there isn't a hint of rust anywhere on the pistol due to my persistance in maintanance. The other Sigs I have been issued have been in similar condition once they have been in my possession. I have worked in the desert southwest in dust storms, in the winters of Montana, and the borderline rainforests of the Smoky Mountains. I've gotten dust all inside the internals of my pistol at gun ranges, and sweated heavily all over them. I guess the moral of the story is, take care of your equipment and know its limitations and it will serve you well.

I only use Tuf-Glide for my firearm lube. Keeps it rust protected and lubed, but is a dry silicon to prevent dust collection. Dust is your worst enemy.

Another thing to consider that if you are posting in this forum, you are a gun nut. Most gun nuts fondle their firearms extensively and there should be no question that you can easily maintain a DA/SA pistol so that it is stone cold reliable.

 

[quickcanary]

I just don't care what anyone says. If I plan on putting thousands of rounds through a gun. There is no way I'm gonna go with a PLASTIC gun. But then maybe I'm weird.

OK, you are weird. As GunTech pointed out, there are Glocks still going strong with 300k rounds through them. That's probably more rounds than most people here will ever dream of shooting. There are numerous plastic pistols that have withstood thousands upon thousands of rounds. Glock comes to mind, as well as HK and Springfield XD.

I don't know why some people equate plastic guns with weakness. It's not like they are built using generic hard plastic...polymer-framed guns are engineered to take abuse, and have the advantage of never being prone to corrosion (rust). I'm not saying polymer is better than steel -- it may or may not be. But it's in no danger of cracking *cough*aluminum frame*cough* and in all likelihood will outlast the shooter.

 

[SouthpawShootr]

I would think (no particular order & I may add some later):

226
CZ75/85
S&W 5906 (5946 is my personal favorite)
Glock 17, 19
SigPro

 

[gc70]

Looking for a heavy-duty, high-mileage 9mm. Meaning a pistol that is designed to shoot a high number of rounds.

That would be... just about any 9mm pistol from any major manufacturer. Aside from expected small parts wear and breakage, you would probably go broke buying ammo before you would "shoot out" the average 9mm.

 

[Lonestar49]

Can Recommend 3

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1. Beretta Px4 9mm.. 500 - 600 bucks NIB. I have the 40cal, and finished today's range shoot, and now have a total of 5050 rounds out her without ANY failures to feed, no jams, no failures to fire, just 100%.

A friend of mine owns a 9mm, and has gone more than 8000 rounds with his Px4 9mm, mainly competitions, without ANY failures, and only 2 failures to fire, as he does his own re-loads.

One of, IF not, the EASIEST guns to field strip, inspect, clean, and reassemble, bar none.

Just try and find one with real Night Sights (Trijicons) as the newer ones come with them now, as opposed to the older supernova glow sights from the factory, not that good.

*And for the record, the frame is Polymer, Plastic, which debunks one statement about plastic guns said, IMHO.
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2. A Sig 9mm, either P226 or P229, same deal, reliable, accurate out of the box, GOOD Sig Night Sights, that glow 24/7 for aprox 8yrs.. 800-1000 bucks. My P229 9mm has 2000 rounds out her, not one failure of any kind, just 100%.

Again, One of, IF not, the EASIEST guns to field strip, inspect, clean, and reassemble out there, bar none.
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3. Do not own one, but have had the privilege of shooting a CZ 9mm, and have to say, tack driver, sweet guns, and around 500 bucks NIB. Just a heavier gun, and harder actions, slide, trigger, hammer cock, than either Beretta or Sigs.

KEY IMHO, will be the fit of the gun in your hand, grip wise, weight and balance, point to aim, that feels the most natural as if part of your hand/s and arm/s.
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Enjoy your choice with whatever 9mm you wind up with.


LS

 

[RNB65]

Glock 17 would be my first choice.

Sig 226 would be my second.

 

[atblis]

Ha

Sig P226. Hands down.

Ha ha ha. Great guns, but most certainly not the most durable.

We're talking about the max here. 100k+ Go talk to some rental ranges. Sigs are by no means the worst, just not "hands down" the best.

Your best bets are.

Glock 17
Ruger
CZ75

 

[BlindJustice]

I'll put in a vote for the Browning Hi-Power "King of the 9s"

Get the trigger job with the mag. disconnect removed

 

[W.E.G.]

OK. I'll play.

Hi-POint!!!

 

[Geronimo45]

OK. I'll play.

Hi-POint!!!

I'll see your Hi-Point and raise you a Lorcin.

 

[W.E.G.]

I'll match your Lorcin and double down on a Jennings.

 

[GunTech]

Well, in accuracy and ergonomics, I'd pick the SIG too. I was an old fashion steel pistol type, with the 1911 being my pick for the best fighting handgun bar none. But my wife convinced me to try the Glock. It shoots accurately, and is just too reliable.

I don;t like the factory trigger in the Glock for a carry gun. It's too light. I have a NYSP #8 pound trigger in mine, so I think of it as a 13 shot revolver.

It still prefer other guns for specific conditions. The big frame glocks like the 21 don't fit me. I am really impressed with the SA XD-45. It seems very reliable and is very accurate. When I'm in the woods, I like my 1076. I want heavy loads with plenty of penetration.

But if I had to pick one, I keep the G23.

 

[littlegator]

Man, you guys and your Sigs.

Go talk to some rental ranges.

I think that's the best plan. Also, for $1000, you can almost (not quite) buy a HK USP, which would be my choice for durability. Less than $1000, and I'm sorry to say, but Glock. Don't tell my S&W M&P that, though.