I thought Glocks were drop safe?

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Sounds like user error to me as well.


Personal experience, my loaded Glock Model 22 fell off a 3rd story building and landed on concrete and it didn't go off. Can't see how a less than 5' drop onto an apartment floor would make it go off.
 
It HAS to be this guys fault?
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If it was a Glock, yes it was; the only time a Glock's striker is compressed far enough to fire a chambered cartridge is when the trigger is pulled. That means he was either dicking around with a loaded gun, or he managed to pull the trigger of that loaded gun by trying to grab it as it "fell".
 
I don't buy it. I have dropped my Glock several times. I have even wrecked my mountain bike while carrying the Glock (with one in the chamber) without a discharge.

I think the guy "effed up" and had a negligent discharge... in a desperate attempt to save face, he blamed it on the Glock.

I call BS on this one.
 
If it was a Glock, yes it was; the only time a Glock's striker is compressed far enough to fire a chambered cartridge is when the trigger is pulled.
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The Sig and S&W that are authorized are double action only. So, it is just as unlikely that either of them would fire in this situation.
 
He's got no qualified immunity for his actions and I hope the family bankrupts him. He deserves it simply for the ineptitude of his lie, nevermind the lack of character it demonstrates.
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That's right! Burn him! Burn the witch!
 
If the Glock had a problem with not being "drop safe", I think the Austrian Army would have discovered it about twenty years ago.
 
It occurs to me that if the gun went off when it fell, it would have had to have hit the ground muzzle-first to make the firing pin slam forward enough to ignite a round - and the internal safety would have had to have already jammed/failed.

If that were the case, it'd be a contact shot to the floor, on impact.
I expect that will be very easy to discern vs. one that was put through the floor from a couple of feet away...
 
When was the last time you thought about cleaning your gun in the dark?
I bet the guy was contemplating suicide and got cold feet.
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Interesting thought. I never considered that.

All we really have to go on is his word on this. Either way he'll likely lose his job and the city will be sued.
 
suing the shooter?

Sounds like the dummy is already broke.I think a lawsuit against the City would be their best bet.I still think he was thinking of suicide.Evidence...beer cans everywhere,no electricity,cleaning the Glock in the dark etc.
 
Considering that this ocured in NYC and the megala-mainac they have elected mayor/dictatore dont be surprised if Glock themselves is a named party in the law suit and is assesed some percentage of fault and or financial liability by the jury and winds up paying because of the "deep pockets" mentality of libility lawyers.

I have zero knowledge of the mechanicle workings of the Glock firearm, but base on my experience of people and acidental discharges, the odds it is the firearms fault through a design flaw and not the person involved are at best up there with the chances we will find evidence of a past advanced civilization having exsisted on the sun.

This situation remindes me of the recent fatal shooting of a driver by his wealthy former NBA star boss in NJ. Because of his financial situation made available to him the type of lawyers that could convince a jury the victim shot himself, because in this day and age so, so few people have any idea how the mechanics of a gun actually works. The end result for the shooter in that case was a hung jury. Guess his lawyer earned his pay.
 
I am no fan of Glocks, but this story seems ludicrous to me. Why? Because you don't clean guns that are LOADED!
 
There is another option: the gun fell as described, but the trigger contacted something during the fall. I could have indeed been a grab for the gun, or it could have been a coat hanger, belt, piece of furniture, or who knows what. Lets face it, the glock trigger doesn't have to be pressed very far to fire.
 
A Glock could not go off if dropped without the trigger being pulled.

Another modern pistol left cocked and no safety, maybe, but highly unlikely.

An old Star or Llamma could go off if hammer was down on a live round as their firing pins extend onto the primer with the hammer down.

If the gun went off and is a typical modern police firearm someone pulled the trigger. Not enough real information to tell if the now former officer was lying or not. Most likely he was lying.
 
If Glocks are so drop safe, I challenge you to load one up and start dropping it into some form of hedge or shrub. The fact is, there is nothing preventing the gun from firing if something, even a twig, contacts the trigger with marginal force.
 
If Glocks are so drop safe, I challenge you to load one up and start dropping it into some form of hedge or shrub. The fact is, there is nothing preventing the gun from firing if something, even a twig, contacts the trigger with marginal force.
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NYPD Glocks have a trigger pull of around 11lbs. Not exactly "marginal force".
 
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Sounds like, that, between all the smoke, and beer, residue permeating the air that, he made the perfect drop, muzzle straight down, or close, to make that shot.. :rolleyes:

Now to some facts: The LAPD did, controlled area, drop testing of many different 9mm Glocks, from an 8 story building to ground/cement. Not one, being loaded, went off, and all of them, then were fired, empty, mag-full after mag-full, and they all worked, with dents, big chips, sights broken, etc.

Have to rule in favor of the Glock, in that, it did not fail, but rather, the mind, hand, and finger, of the officer failed.


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11 lbs; yes - - for a fraction of an inch

I'll admit my contention is unlikely. I'm just trying to suggest another possibility.
 
Don't let the attitude of the reporter cloud your opinion of this person. He/she is leading the reader on by painting a very negative picture of him and his lifestyle. (No power, beercans, cig butts, former military in Abu Graib). We live in a free country, we are free to chose how to spend (or not spend) our money.

He should only be judged on how the ND happened.
 
11 lbs; yes - - for a fraction of an inch
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Once you generate enough pressure to pull the trigger, it really doesn't matter if it's a fraction of an inch or a full inch. By contrast, 11lbs of force is enough to delay firing if the trigger strikes an inanimate object until the Glock has tilted off the angle necessary for the trigger to pull straight back.

I understand about offering a scenario where it was the Glock's fault but it's exceedingly unlikely even viewing the facts in the cop's favor.
 
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