...I was frisked...

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Ran into a leo at a gas station, and I guess he didn't like how I looked (cowboy boots, white t-shirt, gray slacks, black belt with silver buckle) asked what I was up to, and proceeded to frisk me...

The only problem with this really.

I WAS OPEN CARRYING A PISTOL!!!

Honestly. I have a pistol strapped to my hip for the world to see. Is there a REASON to honestly think that I would be hiding something if I had a gun on my hip?????? What, you think I had a shotgun stuffed down my pants leg? honestly...

Now, I let him frisk just cause I thought it was funny as all get-up. I mean...come on... if I had something to hide, you wouldnt see the gun.


Normally by OCing or beign honest about where my gun is I get out of frisks/seraches

case in point, traffic stop, leo hops out of car, pulls his gun, has me get out of my truck hands over my head, asks to search my vehicle, I said 'sure' he asked if I wanted to tell him about anything in there before he got to lookin, I said yheah, there is a .45 under the console, loaded, knife in the driver door pocket, knife under the dash, knife in the passenger door pocket...I think thats it. Cop put up his gun and let me go, said that he was pretty sure I wasn't hiding anything or I wouldnt have told him about all the other fun stuff


But back to he topic, I mean, I have a .45 on my hip, are you really that worried about the knife in my pocket?
 
Punkermonkey said:
Why do you get stopped and searched so often? I have not been searched in over 15 years
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I have been searched many times.... all when I had long hair and was driving a clapped out pick up truck... Now I'm 41 and greying, driving a nice truck.... suddenly I don't get questioned near as much..... interesting.....

It has a lot more to do with how you look than some might have you believe.... but then again.... if I owned a store, and the two different me's had come in paying with a check, the one would have been treated with more scrutiny than the other....

At some point in life you realize that how you look really does affect how people treat you, so you start looking like you want to be treated instead of expecting people to treat you the same no matter how you look, because you realize that is a lost cause (people are prejudiced. period.).... at that point, you are probably less of a threat to others, because you look like less of a threat, and you are mature and comfortable...

So, to a certain extent, it works.
 
Well, my truck would get searched regularly when going on base, of course

Country cops tend to want to search your vehicle when they pull you over for 40 over the limit (I dont do that anymore....much)

And I am the only person I have ever seen around these parts that OCs, so the cops arent used to seeing a guy carrying a gun.

Granted, sometimes I runinto hte good cops, was at the same gas station a week or so ago fillin up, cop on the other side of the pump was filling up as well, we started talking guns...and complainin about the 80 bucks to fill up our trucks

I think that alot of it is the fact that I am known to the local police and sheriff's as well now. The fact that I am the person who is getting interviewed by the papers now in support of concealed carry on campus as the campus leader for the SCCC whereas most of the LEOs are against it, at least, a signifigant number of them are so I am prolly getting a bit of harrassment on that front as well.


Roost. I was wearing cuffed slacks, cowboy boots, a white undershirt, tucked in, a belt, and I still sport my military style hair cut after being out for 4 years. MAYBE if I had had my trench on instead of using an umbrella (I was using the umbrella cause it is a PITA to keep the trench tucked behind the pistol so it remains visible)
 
Most of this board seems obsessed with the anti gun crowds stance on gun laws. Seems to me the cops are the ones who fear guns the most based on there behavior. If I see a guy with a gun and he is behaving normally, no big deal. Why are cops so freaked out about a gun, knife or less?
 
case in point, traffic stop, leo hops out of car, pulls his gun, has me get out of my truck hands over my head, asks to search my vehicle,
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What do you have to do to get stopped like that?

Oh, going 40 over. Gotcha. I like 20-25 over, usually more manageable for me!
 
NG, I have had that happen on like 10 over stops though too. slow day I guess? I never used to care, I never have anything to hide, but now it is starting to get aggrivating.
 
I always agree but insist on a female to do it. I have met two good lookin LE females that where single that way, not to mention it is easier to tollerate. Before CCW I was always frisked when pulled over because I left it on the dashboard.
 
Jimmy- What state do you live in? I've never seen an officer draw just when pulling someone over. Though I'm not LEO, when we stop vehicles our protical(SP) is to be at low ready.

Doc2rn- Does that work? I will forever ask for female friskers, I always thought you could only ask for a same-sex officer if you were stopped by an opposite sex officer.
 
Jimmy Dean said:
I was wearing cuffed slacks, cowboy boots, a white undershirt, tucked in, a belt, and I still sport my military style hair cut after being out for 4 years
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and a gun!

Like it or not, people find guns threatening. People are prejudiced. Period.
 
Cop put up his gun and let me go, said that he was pretty sure I wasn't hiding anything or I wouldn't have told him about all the other fun stuff
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The Untouchables

Malone: Why are you carrying the gun?
Ness: I'm a treasury officer.
Malone: Oh, okay. Just keep in mind what we talked about, huh?
[Malone walks away]
Ness: Hey, wait a minute! What the hell kind of police work do they teach in this city, huh? You just turned your back on an armed man.
Malone: You're a treasury officer.
Ness: How do you know that? I just told you that.
Malone: Who would claim to be that who was not? Hmm?
 
Reminds me of back in my youth when my buddy and I would sneak whiskey into the midnight movies. The theater had security guards searching patrons so that weapons, bottles of booze, etc didn't come in. When it was our turn we raised our hands and said loudly with a slight lisp "Ooooo, search me! Search me!"

We were never patted down. They just stepped back away from us and waved us in.
 
Actualy this situation is interesting.
Most case law that allows frisking does so for officer safety to merely pat down the individual to determine if weapons are present (not search for drugs or other contraband that might be present.)
Since you clearly had a handgun open carried it is quite clear you had a weapon that could pose a grave danger to officer safety with no need to frisk you.
So he really had little to gain by frisking you under the justification for frisking.

Frisking you is not allowed for a fishing expedition to find other forms of contraband. It is soley to determine if weapons are present.

I would like to see his reasoning in a court of law for frisking you.
 
Yes I tell them my lawyers name and say that I have the right to request another officer and that due to my fear of homosexuals I want a female. It has worked with TPD and Highway patrol thus far. 7 X's in all.
 
Why Did You Frisk The Subject?

"Uh, well, he had a pistol on his hip in plain view, so I was concerned that he might be carrying, you know, a weapon or something."

:D
 
impressive doc.

The leo who drew down on a traffic stop was in arkansas. most of hte recent incidents have been in louisiana
 
Did he give a justification for said search? Did you consent to said search

I am aware of Terry and how it applies to officers being able to do a quick sweep or pat-down to see if you have something that can harm them...but as stated you were open carrying, what does he expect to find? Suitcase nuke?
 
Ran into a leo at a gas station, and I guess he didn't like how I looked (cowboy boots, white t-shirt, gray slacks, black belt with silver buckle) asked what I was up to, and proceeded to frisk me...
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Sounds like someone had a Brokeback moment ;)
 
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