i will never eat at pizza hut again
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No They mentioned the shop several times but I dont recall. I am going to send out an email or two to some folks that might know. I will get back if I can find out.
Just from doing a quick search Jimmy John's sounds familliar but I realld do not remember.
Omaha-BeenGlockin
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As others have said----I don't do Pizza Hut simply because the food sucks---its been a good 20 years since they have got any of my money.
Pilgrim
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In some cities, landlords can get police to accompany them on their rounds in what is called the Crime Free Multi Housing program. It amounts to a taxpayer funded bodyguard program.
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MachIVshooter
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Before I'd agree with these sentiments, I'd have to see where he signed off on "conditions of employement" that specifically prohibit his being armed in his own personal vehicle and in public places. PH can dictate what is and isn't allowed within the establishment, but I find it unlikely that they could enforce a legally-binding policy that prohibits the driver's being armed when not on the premesis.
Its quite possible he is alive because he chose to violate PH rules. Being alive and unemployed beats being dead 7 days out of the week as far as I am concerned (another poster expressed similar sentiments).
OTOH, PH would probably have preferred it go the other way. Its simpler for them. Their worker's comp insurance kicks in, and they hire a new driver. They probably even have a policy about what kind of flowers to send to his funeral and what to write on the sympathy card, probably even who, if anyone, should represent PH at the funeral.
They probably don't have a policy for dealing with this kind of situation.
OTOH, PH would probably have preferred it go the other way. Its simpler for them. Their worker's comp insurance kicks in, and they hire a new driver. They probably even have a policy about what kind of flowers to send to his funeral and what to write on the sympathy card, probably even who, if anyone, should represent PH at the funeral.
They probably don't have a policy for dealing with this kind of situation.
Blackbeard
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One sunny day I was in the bleachers at Wrigley field, and a player hit a home run into the batters-eye (the area with no seats), and several fans ran in after it, against the policy of the park. One kid. maybe 16, with a cast on his forearm ended up with the ball. When he got back to his seat, an usher was there to take away the ball and escort him out of the park for violating the rules. "Bum deal" I thought to myself. Half an inning later, the usher brought the kid back to his seat. A half inning after that, he gave the kid the ball back.
I wonder if that's what Pizza Hut is doing. Upholding their policy while the cameras are on, but waiting for the public attention to pass before reinstating their driver.
I wonder if that's what Pizza Hut is doing. Upholding their policy while the cameras are on, but waiting for the public attention to pass before reinstating their driver.
Just about every large company I know does not allow firearms on their premises. Its a stupid policy but a condition of employment that we voluntarily choose to accept if we accept employment. The policy is wrong and the man is alive today because he violated it. I think he made the right choice as he is still alive to seek employment elsewhere.
My son is a delivery driver for a food chain in this area that shall remain nameless. He has had to deliver into EXTREMELY bad conditions, and done so unarmed. After one recent evening, he went to his manager and just had a frank talk about it. I should note that he's a good kid, excellent work record with them, their "go to guy" in figuring out how many drivers they'll need to handle a shift and where they need to go, etc.
At any rate, he had that talk. And now he has his manager's permission to carry in the car while on the job. And yes....they have an official policy against it. But they have a preference for live employees, too.
I have no idea if the guy in the OP had tried this or not; but it is not always just a flat "policy says, so therefore no". It can depend on the manager and the situation.
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At any rate, he had that talk. And now he has his manager's permission to carry in the car while on the job. And yes....they have an official policy against it. But they have a preference for live employees, too.
I have no idea if the guy in the OP had tried this or not; but it is not always just a flat "policy says, so therefore no". It can depend on the manager and the situation.
Springmom
While the local manager has given your son permission to carry on the job, which is great, I suspect that if he has to use, or even display the gun to get out of trouble under circumstances that it is revealed, he'll be fired because of the company policy.
I would of course prefer that you had a son that was out of work, but not seriously injured or dead. In my view what is objectionable is a policy that prevents drivers from protecting themselves while the company takes no other steps to insure their safety. Clearly the policy, along with no other options, says that from the company's point of view driver are expendable. The same might be said about employees working at night in 24-hour gas stations or stores.
The only thing that might bring some reforms (which I agree is unlikely) is if the company decides that reform is better then losing business. Therefore strong protests are in order.
I would of course prefer that you had a son that was out of work, but not seriously injured or dead. In my view what is objectionable is a policy that prevents drivers from protecting themselves while the company takes no other steps to insure their safety. Clearly the policy, along with no other options, says that from the company's point of view driver are expendable. The same might be said about employees working at night in 24-hour gas stations or stores.
The only thing that might bring some reforms (which I agree is unlikely) is if the company decides that reform is better then losing business. Therefore strong protests are in order.
jerkface11
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I've been boycotting them for years since I only like good pizza.
bogie
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Everyone's whining about the policies.
Would someone like to tell me about how we can get the policies changed?
Would someone like to tell me about how we can get the policies changed?
I was robbed while delivering pizzas in college for Dominos. Same situation - a set-up delivery. The two who cornered me were unarmed, and so was I. All they wanted was the pizzas, which they got. When I returned to the store, the manager told me I should get a gun like he carried in his truck.
I agree that the policy is stupid, particularly for delivery drivers. But it is Pizza Hut's policy, so he had to abide by it.
I agree that the policy is stupid, particularly for delivery drivers. But it is Pizza Hut's policy, so he had to abide by it.
If the pizza place is forcing him to engage in activities they know are unusually hazardous, they have a responsibility to mitigate that hazard under OSHA rules. Merely allowing him to carry is not an adequate response.
If the place is part of a national chain, most of the time the local manager has no authority to grant such an exception to the rules. He might chose to overlook certain things, but he almost certainly has no authority to make such an exception. My suspicion is both would get fired if an incident happened where it came to light the driver was armed, assuming the manager would admit to telling him to carry in violation of the rules.
K3
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I worked for a little hole in the wall joint while in college that had no problem with it. Of course, I could make myself a pizza to take home at the end of the shift too.
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I decided never to eat there again long before I knew anything about this...
But now I have the resolve to see it through to the end!!
But now I have the resolve to see it through to the end!!
mgregg85
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Pizza Hut may have had the right to suspend him but, the only way to change their policy is with our telephones and wallets.
Everyone should call and let them know what you think of their policy, and where else you will be buying pizza from now on.
Everyone should call and let them know what you think of their policy, and where else you will be buying pizza from now on.
Blackbeard
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I've said it before and I'll say it again. Boycotts will not change the policy. Lawsuits that they lose will change the policy. The company has a huge risk exposure if they overtly allow their drivers to carry, and their driver shoots someone. If they have a no-carry policy, they insulate themselves against such lawsuits. If you want to change the policy, you need to bring, and win, a wrongful death suit on behalf of a driver who was murdered while driving for them and would have lived had he been allowed to carry.
That, and that alone, will change their policy.
That, and that alone, will change their policy.
evan price
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IMHO:
As a CCW in Ohio: I carry my gun well concealed.
In this specific circumstance, I know that the only time that anyone will find out I am carrying a gun would be when I have to defend my life as this man has done.
Let's see- lose pizza delivery job VS lose my life.... hmm..
It's a no brainer.
(Adding Pizza Hut to the list of places I don't buy pizza from- right under Papa Johns because they post their businesses "No Guns Allowed" signs on the door)
As a CCW in Ohio: I carry my gun well concealed.
In this specific circumstance, I know that the only time that anyone will find out I am carrying a gun would be when I have to defend my life as this man has done.
Let's see- lose pizza delivery job VS lose my life.... hmm..
It's a no brainer.
(Adding Pizza Hut to the list of places I don't buy pizza from- right under Papa Johns because they post their businesses "No Guns Allowed" signs on the door)
ColinthePilot
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Hate to tell you guys, but if you're not gonna support pizza joints who don't allow their delivery drivers to carry, I suggest stocking up on Digiorno. They all have that policy. Its probably the same for UPS, Fed-Ex, the milk man, etc. If you are all serious about boycotting anti-carry businesses, the only folks you'll be able to do business with is Brinks.
Funderb
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you can buy one of those home pizza making stones and paddle kits with recipes for about 30 bucks.
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