i will never eat at pizza hut again
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I doubt it, on both points. OSHA getting involved in a food delivery driver's job? You would have to prove to me that they've ever done such a thing in a similar case. They have bigger fish to fry, and Texas' "at will" employment law gives employers a very wide latitude on jobs where your job description doesn't involve hazardous work IN ITSELF.
And as to the second...If my son got fired, the manager would go too. Somehow I'm not thinking the manager would leave himself open to losing his (much better paying than my son's) job on my son's behalf if he didn't think he was on solid ground.
And it's not a nationwide chain. Don't assume what I haven't said.
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Sigh... Cluelessness abounds...
Did you see ONE sign? On ONE store? Because the one here doesn't have one of those signs...
Now let me spell it out:
POLICIES CAN BE CHANGED.
We have 60,000 members here. Sometimes it seems that 99% of 'em would rather piss and moan and beat their chests like semi-advanced primates, but if just a few percent actually would DO THINGS LIKE CALL OR WRITE THE CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS, we can change things...
Tonight, I'm going to have dinner in the Buffalo Wild Wings that just opened in town.
Another one posted a few counties over, and after the ACTIVE Missouri Carry folks contacted them, one of their regional guys had them TAKE IT DOWN. I'm going to have his name in the back of my forebrain, just in case I have to have a chat with the manager before I eat some tasty wings...
We have 60,000 members here...
Did you see ONE sign? On ONE store? Because the one here doesn't have one of those signs...
Now let me spell it out:
POLICIES CAN BE CHANGED.
We have 60,000 members here. Sometimes it seems that 99% of 'em would rather piss and moan and beat their chests like semi-advanced primates, but if just a few percent actually would DO THINGS LIKE CALL OR WRITE THE CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS, we can change things...
Tonight, I'm going to have dinner in the Buffalo Wild Wings that just opened in town.
Another one posted a few counties over, and after the ACTIVE Missouri Carry folks contacted them, one of their regional guys had them TAKE IT DOWN. I'm going to have his name in the back of my forebrain, just in case I have to have a chat with the manager before I eat some tasty wings...
We have 60,000 members here...
Car Knocker
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I've not seen such a sign on a Papa John's here.evan price said:
silverking
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I did not read all the replies to this thread so my response may have been already touched upon........................If I were a delivery person for Pizza Hut, I would not take interest in jeapordizing my well being for the sake of company policy. If I lost my job because of defending my life, fire me. I'll find another job and you can be assured I will continue to carry for my protection.
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They're never going to do that because they know all the lazy fatasses out there will switch over to the ones that deliver. It's not like Pizza Hut is so good that they'll unplug themselves from the couch and actually have to go out and get it when they can ring up Papa John's or Domino's.
Double Naught Spy
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But then how can we all sound really tough to one another if we don't whine and moan here?
I always wonder why we get all up in arms when something like this happens but really don't do a darned thing otherwise. The policies of many of these companies have been discussed previously. We know they aren't pro gun, but did we do anything? No.
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It's better to be an unemployed Dad then unemployed dead. good work on Mr. Spiers part.
I would like to see Pizza Hut have a mandatory CCW policy where the law permits.
I would like to see Pizza Hut have a mandatory CCW policy where the law permits.
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Just FYI guys, I've worked for papa johns and pizza hut, bout to start for dominoes, but it's all the same..
"NO GUNS ALLOWED PERIOD!"
Don't care, that kinda stuff isn't uncommon at all. Stop buying from pizza hut? Stop buying pizza.
"NO GUNS ALLOWED PERIOD!"
Don't care, that kinda stuff isn't uncommon at all. Stop buying from pizza hut? Stop buying pizza.
bnkrazy
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bogie, I'm glad Buffalo Wild Wings is pro gun in your area. I've contacted the mgmt of the two in town here several times and they haven't budged on their policy...so I can't enjoy their delicious wings anymore. I'm guessing they haven't had enough complaints yet...but I'll keep reminding them they're losing business. Thanks for always reminding people to make an effort to change things for the better.
bogie
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First clue, son...
Don't talk to the managers, after they tell you "no."
Talk to corporate.
Haven't any of you folks learned ANYTHING about how the stuff works?
Don't talk to the managers, after they tell you "no."
Talk to corporate.
Haven't any of you folks learned ANYTHING about how the stuff works?
I do not think osha covers robberies, if they did there would be a lot of jobs that would be a lot more safe. osha covers stuff like hardhat requirements idlh atmospheres chemical exposer ect ect but just looking through books and the internet I see nothing about robberies combat zones unsafe neighbor hoods and osha.
Funderb
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HOORAY for coca cola!
jackstinson
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If I said no to every company which prohibited guns on their property I would have to quit my job of 26 years and live in constant fear of supporting some evil empire. If I get this correctly, we're all supposed to boycott Pizza Hut, KFC, Taco Bell, Waffle House, Pepsi, etc etc etc...because these businesses have corporate policies?
Don't forget to add Giant Eagle to the list. The store near me "carded me" at the self-checkout because I was buying 'Guns & Ammo' magazine. Their automated checkout program halts the process until it receives authorization when a gun magazine is swiped over the bar code reader. I just don't buy gun magazines there now. Actually, I don't buy gun magazines much at all unless I am really bored and want to waste $6-$10.
I buy what I buy where I buy it and don't give a hairy rodent's anal orifice what anyone thinks about it.
I used to drive for Pizza Hut part time back when my oldest son was in college. At that time I chose to drive for a store in an area where crime was lowest and tips were highest. Gangbanger's don't give good tips.
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Don't forget to add Giant Eagle to the list. The store near me "carded me" at the self-checkout because I was buying 'Guns & Ammo' magazine. Their automated checkout program halts the process until it receives authorization when a gun magazine is swiped over the bar code reader. I just don't buy gun magazines there now. Actually, I don't buy gun magazines much at all unless I am really bored and want to waste $6-$10.
I buy what I buy where I buy it and don't give a hairy rodent's anal orifice what anyone thinks about it.
I used to drive for Pizza Hut part time back when my oldest son was in college. At that time I chose to drive for a store in an area where crime was lowest and tips were highest. Gangbanger's don't give good tips.
Jack
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I know who to contact, but this is a franchise store, so they make their own policy. Corporate says they're a rogue shop...but apparently they get to make their own rules...so corp isn't the route to go this time as they said they wouldn't make them change it. Sometimes your mold doesn't fit all situations.
evan price
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BOGIE:
Before you make BLANKET STATEMENTS like this nonsense:
Papa John's has posted ALL of their coporate stores in Ohio. Repeated letters to their CEO, Director of Operations, rebutting the position of anti-carry groups and requests for personal meetings etc have all been responded to with the same form letter.
I don't know about other states.
I write letters, send e-mails, and make personal appointments to talk to managers and business owners regarding gunbusters signs.
For you to assume that all I do is whine on gun forums is pretty bold, and factually inaccurate.
Any other public response I have for you regarding your response to my post would not be high road.
Before you make BLANKET STATEMENTS like this nonsense:
Maybe you should start thinking that NOT ALL OF US just piss and moan- some of us DO THINGS- when you assume the worst you usually get it.
Papa John's has posted ALL of their coporate stores in Ohio. Repeated letters to their CEO, Director of Operations, rebutting the position of anti-carry groups and requests for personal meetings etc have all been responded to with the same form letter.
I don't know about other states.
I write letters, send e-mails, and make personal appointments to talk to managers and business owners regarding gunbusters signs.
For you to assume that all I do is whine on gun forums is pretty bold, and factually inaccurate.
Any other public response I have for you regarding your response to my post would not be high road.
Blackbeard
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Pepsi may be anti, but they don't own Pizza Hut anymore. Pepsi spun off its restaurant chains into a separate company in 1997. Pizza Hut, KFC, Taco Bell, Long John Silver's and A&W restaurants are now all owned by Yum! Brands.
Blackbeard
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Call them up and place a large order for carry-out. Ask if they've changed their weapons policy so you can come inside and get the food. When they say no, cancel the order.
scrat
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i agree most places are going to have a no gun policy to protect the business. as they are not in business with guns they are in business with pizza. You might as well stop buying pizza if your going to stop buying from pizza hut.
Besides there pizza is way better than dominos at least out here that is
Besides there pizza is way better than dominos at least out here that is
I have written various corporations, so I do voice my displeasure. There are too many corporations run by New York city liberals who will never budge. Unless they post it with the NRS code, I walk right on by. The only place I will not venture armed is government buildings. You break that law and they play for keeps. Concealed mean "CONCEALED."
bogie
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If -enough- people call/write, then corporate notices, and corporate has a little chat with the "rogue" franchise...
Whoopie. You're one person. Have you used the best tool at your disposal? Have you ORGANIZED more than one guy? They ignore one guy. But if their corporate e-mail gets stuffed by 60,000 folks, and members of Ohio right to carry orgs start ordering pizzas, and then stopping at the door when they go to pick them up, and cancelling, well, they'll get the message. There is strength in numbers, and the folks at THR are essentially squandering that strength.
That's one way of doing things. But you have to have more than one guy do it. Post a note at your gun club, or favorite gun store. Get involved with state-wide grass roots organizations (here we have www.missouricarry.com or org or something...). You need numbers. And don't ask the question in the initial phone call. Stop -at the door- and tell them that you're sorry, but you can't come in.
Thankfully, my local Buffalo Wild Wings is not posted. I suspect that if you contact corporate folks, yours will become unposted.
http://www.missouricarry.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=21166
MissouriCarry doesn't have a LOT of members, but they are ACTIVE. THR has a lot of members, and the vast majority seem to care more about video games than gun rights.
Change my mind. I'm in Missouri. SHOW ME.
Blackbeard
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It's got nothing to do with liberal/conservative, pro/anti. It has to do with lawsuits -- lawsuits that liberal judges allow to go forward. The current legal environment is such that they are at risk if they allow drivers to carry and the driver shoots someone. If they have a no-carry policy and fire drivers who do carry, they insulate themselves against potential damages in the millions. It's a simple numbers game. If you want to change the rules, you need to increase the financial risk of having a no-weapons policy.
It's not about what's right -- it's about what costs more. Period. That's all it will ever be about.
Pass a law that makes corprorations immune to lawsuits when their employee shoots someone, and all the no-weapons policies will disappear.
I disagree, New york city liberalism is the mind-set that nobody needs a gun but police and military. The people who run these corporations live there, socialize only in those crowds of people with the same mind-set. The lives of their drivers mean very little to the ceo's.
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