Idaho Teens Tote Loaded Guns Around Town Legally

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Question: strategically it doesn't seem very bright if you're open carrying for self-defense. yes?
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The most important self defense we can practice is against a government which would evolve into something we cannot recognize, which disarms the people, which imprisons good men. And for that, friend, it is very strategic to practice what we hold so dear - freedom.

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Arfin, Where did you read these boys are home-schooled? This article only said they could not carry on school property.
 
"I believe the intent (of the law) was to allow it more for hunting and recreation."
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You can believe whatever you want. You're factually incorrect. And by the way, the sky is puse... I believe that's what color it is.
 
Open Carry?

Question: strategically it doesn't seem very bright if you're open carrying for self-defense. yes?
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I'm glad you asked that question, senator.

A single person carrying in the open may not be compellingly persuasive, but it may inspire one or two more to open-carry.

If that inspires a couple more, and then a few more, then eventually it will be unremarkable -- no one will notice.

Gun ownership and gun carry should be so commonplace and unremarkable that the assumed default for everyone is "armed and packing."

When carrying a gun becomes that commonplace, the bad guys who depend on helpless victims will find that they now have to deal with ARMED VICTIMS and some of them will find something else to do with their time.
 
Cool story -- go homeschooling :)

Maybe one day I'll repent of this, but I happen to think "Because I can," "Because I should," and "Because you don't think I can or should" are all perfectly good reasons to do something (anything!), and this story makes me chuckle happily. I hope that some of the townfolk smile at the possibilities of poite, armed fellow citizens, and that others up their dose of Mylanta if they can't handle others reveling in freedom.

I think James Rebal is perhaps catching more flak than he should be for calling the police; flash to the recent thread on this site (in Strategies and Tactics, I think) about calling about a suspicious car parked on a public street in front of one's house. Many posters there (and I agree with them) have no problem with calling the police about it. It sounds like Rebal (the spelling is almost perfect, for irony's sake) isn't making a big stand against the possession of guns or even carry -- sounds to me like he just overreacted. And since he's not an agent of the State except voluntarily, that seems his right as an American to do :) I'm guessing -- and more than guessing, from the article -- that many people don't think that open carry is legal for the boys (and I sure might have guessed that it wasn't, esp. for the younger one, but our crazy system seems minors with rifles differently from ones with handguns), so Rebal's call isn't quite Sara Brady crying wolf.

The gun store owner on the other hand ... is there a special place where seemingly clueless gunstore owners meet to cackle over the good ones they pulled on customers by pretending profound ignorance? Perhaps they play 3D chess while composing sonatas in this place, after reinserting their *real* brains.

timothy
 
"POST FALLS, Idaho — Two home-schooled teenagers in this northern Idaho town say they are carrying loaded guns to the library, grocery store and other public areas for self-defense, as a crime deterrent, and to educate others about their rights."

5th and 6th word =D
 
Heh, "home schooled" is what stuck out first for me ;) That made me enjoy the rest of the article even more. (I'm not homeschooled -- went to a religious school for 1st grade, a good private school from 2d to 6th, and two well-above-average public schools for the remainder, less a year spent as an exchange student in Germany. But I think it's likely that my kids will be homeschooled at least in part.)

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Zach said he's not paranoid or a radical.

"If I was an extremist, our founding fathers would all be extremists," he said. "Without them, we wouldn't have our independence. We'd be a disarmed British system of feudal subjectivity."

It's so refreshing to hear this from an 18 year old. So many people college-aged and younger these days have little understanding of the founding fathers and the principles under which they founded this country. Good to see someone who "gets it"

I find it extremely frustrating that so many people see gun ownership and especially carrying of a gun as "paranoid or radical," at least where I live. Even worse is that my own parents feel that way.:rolleyes: I know, I'm preaching to the choir here.
 
Back in the mid-'60's I used to carry my shotgun over my shoulder and walked past 3 blocks of houses to get to the woods at the end of the street. Other people did the same thing, so it wasn't anything unusual.

In college in the late '60's I kept my shotgun in my dorm-room closet so I could go hunting after class. I''m sure I'd get arrested for that on most campuses these days.

I wouldn't put too much weight on the home-schooling angle. Times have changed, but guns are still very much a part of life in most rural parts of the country. This has way more to do with where they lived than how they were schooled. Home schooling takes a huge commitment of time and effort to do it right, and not everybody can do a proper job of it.
 
Geeze, I walk to work 6 days a week with my P85 Mk.2 holstered openly on my belt. Only comment I've had from a cop was him asking me when I'm going to upgrade to .40 or .45
 
But police left after confirming it was the Doty's.
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"Oh; it's those guys again ..."

If a high proportion of people in every jurisdiction where legal did likewise; attention would dwindle. Police agencies would appropriately limit their responses and consequently no longer be tied up with calls where no crime has been committed - and most of the inconveniences and injustices that often occur when police are called every time someone is legally wearing a gun would all but dissappear.

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Hey hey hey, easy on the public school jibes :neener: I was actually exempted from my high school history courses due to my in depth knowledge of the subjects. I also attempted to start up a gun safety program, that didn't go over so well. History teacher actually started calling me Jay the 2nd due to how often I bumped heads with the school board and principal of the school

Anyhow, those two are a good example of what will hopefully make people stop and think. If two young teenagers can do this responsibly and with no problems, what exactly are the anti-gunners talking about with all these danger facts? Also takes some guts to do, willingly and knowingly taking on the controversy and bad/good press that they're going to get.
 
The 2nd Ammendment is about Life, Liberty, and the

Pursuit of Happiness. That leaves recreational shooting solidly in third place.

Seperating recreational guns and shooting from an automatic assumption of violence will never happen unless public perception is changed
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:rolleyes:

If recreational shooting becomes the only reason for owning guns it will soon become the former reason. :banghead:
 
John Dunlap, commander of the American Legion Post 143, said he asked Zach to leave the Legion at a recent lunch because Zach was carrying his gun.
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Does this seem odd to anyone but me?
Is the American Legion not pro-2A?
 
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Well after reading the 15 pages in this thread http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum20/2184.html and then the 4 pages in This Thread Zack Dotystarted it sure seems like there is way more to the story than reported.

It really sounds like he went out of his way to antagonize the local police along with talking about how he illegally carried a concealed pistol when he was 17 & now at 18.

Also seem his family had to move from Washington state due to quite a few on going lawsuits and violations of the child labor laws in Washington state.

It will be interesting to follow that thread & see if he further updates it or if it dies out.
 
From the tone of his posts in that thread, the kid seems like a cocky know-it-all. He admits to carrying concealed illegally and says he's already got his defense written up and plans to file a complaint for false arrest when it happens.. lol .. good luck with that. In the other thread it says the cops asked for his ID and he didnt have any.. then he goes into a rant about case law and showing IDs. It's almost as if he is trying to antagonize LE.. like he purposesly doesnt carry an ID so he can outsmart the cops when they ask for it.
 
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Picking a fight with the authorities when you know that you are in the right is a time honored American sport.
Forcing matters to a head by being persistently correct and failing to kneel is how this country got started

Jefferson
 
Homer Workman, I think his name is, an old FL Cracker who used to write for the Fort Myers News-Press, reminisced about riding home from school on his bicycle, with shotgun. As long as he did not climb over a fence, or walk into growing crops or into the curtilage of a dwelling, (that is, not trespassing) he was free to shoot small game and bring it home to eat.

That was in the early part of the 1950s, not so long ago.
 
Home School+

We have home schooled our kids for 20+ years. They get the Eddie Eagle course when they are in the six or seven year area. We then head for the range and gun safety as taught by the same instructor that taught my CCW class. We don't open carry, but . . . . . . Never know do you!

BTW, growing up in Wyoming in the 1950/60s, I carried a shotgun to school in the fall for pheasant season, in the winter for ducks. Carried a 30-06 in the fall for deer/antelope, and most generally had a .22 rifle all the time for whatever use from plinking to rabbits to the occasional fox or coyote.
 
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