If you could change ONE thing about Gun Laws...

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I'd say start by repealing all the gun laws in the nation.

And put one law on the books that might actually help with saving a few of the children. That would be to make it a felony for any person to not keep their weapon in their control. In other words, if an adult leaves a gun/knife/etc. where a child can get to it, if said child commits a crime, or injures some one by accident, the child and the adult will both face charges.

I've always thought that if some of the less responsible adults could face charges if their kid, or friend of said kid, found their gun and had an AD while playing with it, it might make the adult a little more thoughtful about responsibilities of gun ownership.

I can't see where any responsible adult (pro-gun or anti) would have a problem with this law being passed. And to quote the anti's (even though I hate quoting them), "if it saved just one child, it would be worth it."

Y'all go ahead and shoot holes in my idea, I'm a big boy. I can take it.

Wyman


I'd also like to apologize to all of you (grammar Nazis) reading this, and to all of my past grammar teachers, for the run-on sentences. I'm sorry!!!
 
I think you guys are overreaching the spirit of this question when you say "I'd abolish all of them." That's not changing one thing, that's changing thousands of things.

If I could change one single paragraph of law, I would repeal the Hughes Amendment. If I could overturn one single law, it would be the NFA.
 
The overreaching is borne of frustration.

"Only one law."

"Only one other law."

"Oh, and we ought to..."

Why stop at the NFA?

Why stop at GCA 68?

Why stop at the Hughes Amendment?

The dynamics of compromise are such that it behooves us to over-reach our objectives in order to achieve a compromise --temporarily only --satisfactory to us.

And don't you think the anti-gunners are well-versed in these dynamics?

I would rather have seen the OP pose a question (maybe a poll) which would establish a ranking of all the major gun laws in terms of how onerous any particular gun laws are.

Here's my position: "Gun laws: Roll 'em all back!"

Now. Let's start "compromising" on that.

(And, JWF, we got along without such a law for hundreds of years... mainly because guns were commonplace and did not have the forbidden fruit attraction. And knives? Who among us did not carry a knife, perhaps the famous Barlow, all the way from elementary school to...? )

See also:
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The change

I would if King for the day, change gun law to reflect the 2nd amendment. To keep and bear arms. This is the one and only law.
 
It looks like the various anti- states and cities will be addressed in the next few years, if not sooner.

So, if I could change one thing about gun laws, it would be that employers aren't special cases. If the right to self-defense is a civil right, then that should not be abridged any more than any other civil right for both customers and employees.

In other words, possession of a gun should not be a crime, no matter where you are.

And, just to simplify things, I'd grant an exception to the pro-TSA folks who believe air travel is safer with everyone disarmed. I believe that one is just too much for anyone to go for...
 
So, if I could change one thing about gun laws, it would be that employers aren't special cases. If the right to self-defense is a civil right, then that should not be abridged any more than any other civil right for both customers and employees.

That, Sir, is a darned good point!

My compliments.
 
I would remove LEO exemptions. Let them fallow the same laws as every one else. I bet if that were to happen alot of gun laws would be rewritten.

No I'm not talking about machine guns.
 
it would be against the law for any state, county or city from infringing the 2nd amendment. Any attempt to infringe on those rights would be punishable by 10 year prison sentence. 2nd attempt would be life in prison. public politcal officials that violate this law, mandatory life in prison. All assets must be auctioned off and proceeds given to gun education centers across the country.
 
ONE thing, you say?

:)

1st: Repeal the unconstitutional '86 ban (technically a moratorium) on the manuf/import of machine guns (or at least on the manufacture if not the import, to favor American business interests).

2nd Place: Overturn as unconstitutional any law under which a state or municipality restricts the type of weapon capable of being owned by citizens. All so-called "AWBs" and handgun bans, etc., are gone; dead.

3rd Place: Repeal the unconstitional "Lautenberg law" completely, to the extent that it applies to misdemeanors and civil TROs. States (only) may pass similar laws on a state by state basis, with respect to domestic violence, but may only deprive the RKBA if one is a convicted felon. They are free to make whatever they want to be a "felony", a felony, however.

4th Place: NFA Amendments: Repeal all restrictions on SBSs, SBRs, AOWs, and suppressors. NFA items consist solely of machine guns. Lower the tax stamp amounts for NFA items to $.50 (50 cents) in 1934 dollars, adjusted for inflation automatically each year, tied to the CPI. (Not sure what that would be today, but it would be under $200). [Edit - on second thought, what the hell am I thinking? Repeal the NFA in its entirety!]

5th Place: Pass a law that says that BATFE shall never under any circumstances utilize the phrase or the principle "sporting purposes" as a test for *any reason*, recognizing that the 2nd amendment has nothing to do with hunting or shooting competitions, and everything to do with militia/protecting against tyrants, self-defense, etc.

6th Place: Fund the BATFE program to allow rehabilitated felons to apply to re-instate their RKBA, once their debt to society has been paid, and administer the program fairly, with objective guidelines/criteria based on scientific data on the likelihood of recitivism, the scale of violence of the original crime, etc. (For example, drug users get their RKBA back instantly upon being released from jail and applying, since their crime was not violent at all).

7th Place: Go to Alaka/Vermont style carry in every state - nationally, such that on every square foot of outdoor dirt in the US of A, one can carry openly or concealed, license or not. States only (not cities) can use their discretion to prohibit carry in public buildings, etc., on a state by state basis. But, states that don't allow carry literally everywhere will have federal funding for roads withheld - they can make that choice.

8th Place: To make our skies safe again, create a CCW-style licensing scheme, such that if you have passed the background check and done the training, you can carry a weapon on an airplane - handgun, knife, etc.

9th Place: Change D.D.s to anything larger than 20mm (over .79 inches bore size), instead of .50. Leave an exception in place for larger Nitro calibers / 8 bore / 4 bore, etc. (African cartridges). This allows 20mm rifles with no hassles / license.

10th Place: (gonna get flamed for this one). Require the NICS/Brady background check for ALL transfers, even private transfers, regardless of whether done at gun shows or not. This would keep guns from being sold to criminals, either on purpose or inadvertently, which would help reduce crime, and thus be GOOD for us, the law-abiding.

Actually, I'm going to re-think my order on these and re-arrange later. But the #1 in bold will still be #1.

And then we wake up...
 
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I think everyone else covered the big points better than I could.

Wouldn;t mind repealing all firearm restrictions put in place not by LAW, but by the misuse/abuse of EXECUTIVE ORDERS.
 
I think it is horrible and stupid that many states ccw permits reject applicants because they have restrictions on mental illness absent any adjucation/commitment.
 
It would be a toss up between many "single things" (which numerous individual laws may require changing to get accomplished)...

But I think my one thing would be that carry permits are either abolished (in favor of Vermont style everywhere) or that any state CCW permit was valid in the same way a DL is valid: Everywhere.

Close second may be that full auto was treated same as semiauto for legal purposes, though that wouldn't really have any practical application. And with ammo prices being what they are now, the fun factor may be limited as well.

That pretty much sums up my opinions on what I would want changed. National Vermont-style concealed carry especially. States should be giving "full faith and credit" to other states' permits anyways under the US Constitution.

But if I were to change one single law, it would likely be repeal of the Gun Control Act of 1968, as amended.
 
Not really a repeal....lets just add some teeth to some...how about a mandatory (no parole possible) 15 year jail term for a) illegal possesion of a firearm b) commision of a crime with a firearm (assault, burglury felony etc)
 
Not really a repeal....lets just add some teeth to some...how about a mandatory (no parole possible) 15 year jail term for a) illegal possesion of a firearm b) commision of a crime with a firearm (assault, burglury felony etc)

Problem with a) is that there are already too many laws criminalizing gun ownership in the first place. Let's say you live in Roxbury, Massachusetts (a dangerous neighborhood in Boston) and you apply to the Boston Police for a gun permit, but since permits in Mass are discretionary and the Boston Police make it next to impossible to get a permit, even though you have a clean criminal record you are denied. But you decide you should protect yourself and family anyways so you get an "illegal" gun-- would you really think it fair that if the police catch you with it, say on a routine traffic stop, that you now go to jail for a minimum of 15 years? Just because you wanted to keep your family safe and ridiculous gun laws made you into a criminal for owning a gun?

Problem with both laws is we already have the highest incarceration rate in the world and prisons are already overcrowded. Reform the drug and prostitution laws to clear out the jails of non-violent offenders, and establish meaningful rehabilitation and re-entry programs, then I'll support you on part b) of your proposal. But our jails, prisons and courts are already overtaxed as it is, we need to get that under control before increasing sentences for armed robbery and such.
 
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Mine would be that Local and state governments cannot regulate firearms except for the locations of gun stores though zoning, and gun stores must be treated as a common retail establishment.

So you would prefer that the central government make all gun laws, as was the case in Soviet Russia, Nazi Germany, Red China, Cambodia etc?

No thanks! When it comes to firearms laws, I'll support states' rights to my last breath.
 
If you'e not comfortable answering the question the OP asked, you don't have to post. "All of them" is the easy answer. The OP is trying to get you to think about the laws and which one you would remove if you could only remove one. Really think about the question, don't just spit out the easy "all of them" answer and avoid answering the question.

I would repeal laws again SBRs, especially in Michigan.
 
My view is that if a criminal is allowed out of jail, then they have their rights...including RKBA.

Key phrase: allowed out of jail.

If they're habitual offenders, why let them out? All that paperwork is expensive.
 
But I think my one thing would be that carry permits are either abolished (in favor of Vermont style everywhere)
Vermont is the only state following the 2nd Amendment. I'd do nothnig but follow the 2nd Amendment. "Shal not be infringed"

I'm not sure I can add much more.
 
If you'e not comfortable answering the question the OP asked, you don't have to post. "All of them" is the easy answer.

Jis' 'cause it's the easiest, don't mean it ain't the best.

And we're still tacking on our own personal little "additions" and "qualifications" to firearms laws.

Enough!

Enough!
 
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