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Illinois: Cook County Board Poised to Shut Down Cabela's Superstore

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  1. GoRon

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    CHICAGO, Dec. 9 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- The following was released today by the Illinois State Rifle Association (ISRA):

    Just weeks after its gala grand opening, the Cabela's superstore in Hoffman Estates, IL is facing closure by the Cook County (IL) Board. This impending action stems from a pair of proposed county ordinances prohibiting the retail sale of firearms at a location 15 miles or less from any other federally licensed firearm dealer. The proposals further prohibit retail sale of firearms within one mile of any school, church, place of worship, nursing home, homeless shelter, public housing, or military installation. With respect to these restrictions, Cabela's Hoffman Estates store loses on all counts - as does every other federally-licensed gun dealer in Cook County.

    "This proposal is an election year stunt instigated by Cook County Commissioner, Larry Suffredin," said ISRA Executive Director, Richard Pearson. "Although this is something that we'd expect to see from a gun-control extremist like Suffredin, I'm surprised to see astute politicians like Commissioners Claypool, Quigley, and Murphy signing on as co-sponsors to this farce."

    "Cabela's Hoffman Estates store employs hundreds of Cook County residents and brings in millions of sales tax dollars for the County," continued Pearson. "If Cabela's cannot sell firearms, then there is no Cabela's. If there is no Cabela's, then those retail dollars flee to DuPage, Kane or Will counties. The cash-strapped Cook County treasury really can't afford such a huge hit just because Larry Suffredin doesn't like people who own guns."

    "From a practical standpoint, Suffredin's proposal is a non-starter," commented Pearson. "It bears repeating that the Chicago Police Department has determined that 88% of murderers have previous criminal records as do 76% of murder victims. Federally-licensed firearm dealers are not the problem - career criminals are."

    "Furthermore", continued Pearson. "When was the last known case where someone walks out the door of a gun shop, in the door of a nursing home, and then proceeds to shoot the place up? The same Chicago Police Department report lists alleyways as being popular places to get murdered. Why then, did Suffredin not specify that no gun shop could be within one mile of an alley? The reason is simple - shock value. Suffredin prefers to play on the plight of our most vulnerable citizens in order to advance his quixotic campaign to disarm hunters and sportsmen. Commonsense is not part of the Suffredin lexicon."

    "One insidious side-effect of the Suffredin proposal is that it deeply erodes the home-rule authority of many of the larger communities in Cook County," noted Pearson.

    "The Suffredin proposal is expensive, ineffective, divisive and impractical," said Pearson. "I hope that Board President Stroger has the wisdom to immediately reject Suffredin's showboating."
     
  2. stevemis

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    Wow, you can't just make stuff like this up.
     
  3. shotout

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    Why do the voters of Illinois put up with this?
     
  4. Kimber1911_06238

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    Wow, I'm shocked. Illinois has so many deer hunters...how could that happen? Talk about lots of regs for gun shops.....distance requirements?

    Illinois residents, is this Cabela's in an urban area? I can't see it getting closed down in a rural area full of hunters.
     
  5. Canuck-IL

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    It's in a commercial/industrial park area, no nearby residences, fairly close to a major highway intersection...almost but not quite out of of Cook County.

    After the protracted negotiations it required to get them to locate there (big tax dollars for the community), I suspect that the city of Hoffman Estates will defend their home rule prerogatives rather than succumb to the dictates of Urkel and the Cook County crazies.
    /Bryan
     
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    They put up with it because some are not too bright. A guy who lives down the block voted for Blaggo the Gov because he liked open road toll roads. When I asked him about the govs stance on guns he said they cant really take them away can they? Now this guy hunts with me and owns a whole bunch of handguns. I try to educte but you cannot tell someone something they do not want to hear. As far as cook county goes.A couple of questions. Who really benifits from gun control? Who really benifits when a whole county becomes a victim disarmament zone? Gotta wonder whose side the politicians are on. They are making a very safe working enviorment for the bad guys.


    Len
     
  7. Old Fuff

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    The Old Fuff has no objection. He avoids Cook County/Chicago at all costs. If this should go through a number of big-box stores might move, and/or not set up shop in Cook County. The business and tax revenue should go to other nearby counties with more common sense. Let this bunch of anti-gun dingbats go shoot themselves in the foot.
     
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    Guns aren't about hunting, no matter which side of the fence you are on.
     
  9. Kimber1911_06238

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    I realize that, I was just saying that hunting is very popular. Firearms hunters need firearms to hunt with.
     
  10. PirateRadio

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    Wow, thats total crap.

    Lucky for me, the Cabela's in Hammond, IN is closer to me than Hoffman Estates. :)
     
  11. stevereno1

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    I'm from Chicago, and I can tell you that the state of Illinois is the same as new york in that there is a giant, liberal city sitting in an otherwise conservative state. Mayor Daily, and the rest of the Cook County politicians are Gestapo like in their hatred of gun owners, not only making it illegal to own a gun, but Making it a FELONY!
     
  12. cherryriver

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    Indeed, Hoffman Estates had to effectively repeal their previously-existing "assault weapons" ban in order to issue the building permits for the Cabela's store. Cabela's, bless their hearts, refused to bend on selling guns at the new store. Hoffman was greedy enough to bend for a couple of million dollars a year, and besides, the area is under redevelopment.
    It's part of the none-too-successful Sears "Prairie Stone" development, with a huge show theater, the "Sears Centre", on the gigantic site of the old Sears, Roebuck relocation.
    Commissioner Larry Sufredin is the same one who, a year ago, popped in an amendment to the Cook County anti-gun ordinance that pretty much banned all eleven-plus magazines and lots of semi-auto rifles.
    Since the amendment was pushed through possibly outside of legal notice requirements, the Illinois State Rifle Association was planning a class-action suit. I haven't heard much about it, but then, there hasn't been much in the way of news about all of the people in the county who've been arrested for possessing M1As.
    It's hard to see how this could play out. Suffredin's (and the Daleys'; there's more than one running things here) plan was to force out every gunshop and especially, the famous Chuck's in Riverdale, IL, where the antigunners met with a PR defeat earlier this year. Daley's obsessed with Chuck's and will stop at nothing to close it down.
    The Daleys have been pushing other, similar approaches to total gun bans, and the one tack that shows some signs of life is the dealer licensing thing. They want to add a layer of state licensing on top of the federal licensing of dealers, and make it difficult in the extreme to get a state license.
    Then, they want to make every firearm transfer, meaning intrastate, go through a licensed dealer. Tricky, eh?
    To folks not familiar with Illinois, wondering how such things happen: Cook contains about a quarter of the state's population.
    Like how things are changing in the Vermont-New Hampshire region, with city folks moving in and unbalancing the political slant from traditional to urban-nanny state, so it's going the Chicago metro area. The "collar" counties are swinging left owing to all of the urbanites flooding out from the inner ring.
    This is a big chunk of the electorate, now, and things are tipping further left by the month.
    Usually, I'd forecast the politics would win out, but when there's money involved, in seven figures or more, there's no telling where the pols will go.
     
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    Since when do Illinois voters matter? It's the vote counters that decide who wins.
     
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    Don't forget to put that "r" in C_ook County.
     
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    I grew up in Chicago, and were I to express my true feelings about the political machine and the demographic of its supporters . . . it wouldn't be a very "High Road" thing at all.

    I've got relatives in that area yet, and though I really like most of them, they still tend to vote Democrat. :( (Not that the GOP has been exactly wonderful of late.)

    The public schools there have been doing their job of indoctrination and "dumbing down" of the populace all too well, and the results are beginning to show. :(
     
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    It's sad that this is no surprize to me. I'm from Peoria and we got a Gander Mtn a few years back, and it's booming. Dick's sporting goods and Dunham's sports both still sell firearms, although walmart pulled their long guns. Chicago is a mess, plain and simple. I hear Gov. Blago even was rated our worse gov. in history. And that's saying something since our last two ended up in prison. As far as Illinois being full of hunters, well that's true, although it's illegal to hunt anything game w/ a centerfire, except for coyotes. Hunting is mostly Bow for deer, and waterfowl. The pheasant, quail, and rabbit are on a decline because conservation sucks in Illionois. So much for the tree hugging dems caring more for the environment than the Conservatives. I wish we'd get something going to recall him like CA did w/ Grey Davis. How about Bill Brady?! Blago forgets that the state capitol is in Springfield, NOT $hitcago! BUCK Flagojevich! But ya, Cabelas should pull steaks and head south, or maybe quad cities.
     
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    I don't think it's that easy if they just sunk millions of dollars into a brand-spankin' new store. My bet is that they will be the 400lb. gorilla in the room, and my bet is that said gorilla is pissed.
     
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    I live in Dupage county ...

    "and I can tell you that the state of Illinois is the same as new york in that there is a giant, liberal city sitting in an otherwise conservative state. Mayor Daily, and the rest of the Cook County politicians are Gestapo like in their hatred of gun owners, not only making it illegal to own a gun, but Making it a FELONY!"

    +1 Quoted for truth!!!!!

    Thank god I can still own a middy with high cap errr, STANDARD cap mag/s
     
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    I wouldn't be a bit surprised if you're right. I doubt that Cabela's can afford to say "Oh well, them's the breaks," pack its stuff, and ride off into the sunset. Among the factors against that departure are contractual issues involving Cabela's and the property owner and Cabela's and the city, including any incentives from the city to Cabela's.

    I don't know if Article 1, Section 10 of the Constitution would come into play here but it would be great fun if it did:

    Cabela's, by the way, is a corporation with shares that are publicly traded on the New York Stock Exchange (symbol is "CAB"). It therefore has duties to its shareholders that should require them to defend against Cook County's arbitrary action. To give some idea of the kind of money at stake, Cabela's 2006 Annual Report (p. 50) said that "opening a single destination retail store may require expenditures of $30 million to $50 million."
     
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    Thank God the politicians like you have are sequestered in a few populated areas! The rest of the "Land of the Free" are able to take care of ourselves. Anyone want to guess why Washington, Chicago, Detroit, and LA consistently have the highest violent handgun crimes?
     
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    What a disgusting state of affairs. Remind me not to take a job in Chicago when I graduate.
     
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    Robert H. beat me to it; this sounds like an ex post facto law.
     
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    Another ISRA alert about Cook County and their attempt to outlaw all guns.

     
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    A "non-starter"? When the Mafia wants something, it is never a non-starter.

    Jim
     
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