Interesting bus ride this AM
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Dave A
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MRI machines and magnetic fields
While the magnetic field within the machine is very intense it drops of rapidly outside of the machine. Magnet field strength is inversly proportional to the cube of the distance from the source. In other words if the distance from the source is doubled the field strength drops to one eighth, if tripled it drops to one twentyseventh. Two cubed is eight, three cubed is twenty seven. That makes it highly improbable for objects external to the machine to be drawn in to it.
While the magnetic field within the machine is very intense it drops of rapidly outside of the machine. Magnet field strength is inversly proportional to the cube of the distance from the source. In other words if the distance from the source is doubled the field strength drops to one eighth, if tripled it drops to one twentyseventh. Two cubed is eight, three cubed is twenty seven. That makes it highly improbable for objects external to the machine to be drawn in to it.
This was NY right? I lived in NY for 38 years. Your response should have been typical New Yorker - you should have immediately beat her with the magazine, thrown her to the floor (trust me - no one would have come to her defense - oh wait, they're not armed!), stomped her a couple of times, opened the door and pushed her out, then gone back to reading quietly. No one would have seen a thing, no one would get involved because they're all sheeple and have no way to defend themselves - oh wait - I already said that! Sorry....
lanternlad1
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Possible retorts:
"I see the lobotomy didn't help, Aunt Mildred."
"Did you ever beat that child molestation rap?"
"Gun nut?! That isn't what called me last night, lover..."
"I see the lobotomy didn't help, Aunt Mildred."
"Did you ever beat that child molestation rap?"
"Gun nut?! That isn't what called me last night, lover..."
Deanimator
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Try saying, "Clearly you imagine that others value your opinion."
Then just ignore her.
Then just ignore her.
dkk73
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+1 on your approach. The old "you can't argue with an idiot without looking like one" observation.
I would add that such commentary is not restricted to any political or cultural persuasion... *Except* for the fact that it usually reflects the majority view of the area. Rude idiots feel safe expressing the sanctioned little world view of wherever they live, be it "liberal" or "conservative".
I moved around the country a lot. I got to hear all great varieties of idiot that can be found "in the wild" in our great nation.
It always amazes me how comfortable people feel spouting off one way or the other because they are so obviously "right" about whatever.
BTW, I'm not trying to be preachy. I'm annoyed on your behalf.
On a lighter note, I'm ROTFLMAO at most of the comebacks people have suggested... A funny anecdote:
I was out having lunch one day with some other guys in the Air National Guard and a guy starting giving us crap about all the noise the jets made flying over the city. One of the other guys was real polite and said, "Our jets, huh? Really? Did they have little red stars on the tail?" "No? Well, I guess we were probably doing our jobs then. Have a nice day."
To be fair, most people in the liberal city in question are pretty supportive and friendly to the military. This guy was just some subspecies of curmudgeon I think....
I would add that such commentary is not restricted to any political or cultural persuasion... *Except* for the fact that it usually reflects the majority view of the area. Rude idiots feel safe expressing the sanctioned little world view of wherever they live, be it "liberal" or "conservative".
I moved around the country a lot. I got to hear all great varieties of idiot that can be found "in the wild" in our great nation.
It always amazes me how comfortable people feel spouting off one way or the other because they are so obviously "right" about whatever. BTW, I'm not trying to be preachy. I'm annoyed on your behalf.
On a lighter note, I'm ROTFLMAO at most of the comebacks people have suggested... A funny anecdote:
I was out having lunch one day with some other guys in the Air National Guard and a guy starting giving us crap about all the noise the jets made flying over the city. One of the other guys was real polite and said, "Our jets, huh? Really? Did they have little red stars on the tail?" "No? Well, I guess we were probably doing our jobs then. Have a nice day."
To be fair, most people in the liberal city in question are pretty supportive and friendly to the military. This guy was just some subspecies of curmudgeon I think....
dkk73
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Re: MRI:
Risk to patient depends on composition and nature of the metallic foreign bodies. For example, inside the eyes or skull, most supervising docs are very very careful. If it's in your back muscles, for example, it's usually not much of a concern.
Interestingly, as a rule of thumb, wounds due to military ammunition are more of a concern (due to ferromagnetic steel components). So veterans and people who've immigrated from countries that have seen war recently are examples of people with whom you might have to be more careful. "Oh, yes, I was shot in the leg back in WW II (or "my old country")... Never thought to mention it." Interestingly, these people (both groups) are usually actually grateful for health care, which is always refreshing, instead of pissing and moaning about it.
Brass and lead fragments are less of a concern.
There is a documented case of a concealed pistol going off in an MRI (LEO who didn't want to leave the gun potentially unsecured in dressing locker).
Deflection of metal in a magnetic field not always very intuitive. Please don't take the risk of CCW in an MRI. Plus it will screw up the images.
Risk to patient depends on composition and nature of the metallic foreign bodies. For example, inside the eyes or skull, most supervising docs are very very careful. If it's in your back muscles, for example, it's usually not much of a concern.
Interestingly, as a rule of thumb, wounds due to military ammunition are more of a concern (due to ferromagnetic steel components). So veterans and people who've immigrated from countries that have seen war recently are examples of people with whom you might have to be more careful. "Oh, yes, I was shot in the leg back in WW II (or "my old country")... Never thought to mention it." Interestingly, these people (both groups) are usually actually grateful for health care, which is always refreshing, instead of pissing and moaning about it.
Brass and lead fragments are less of a concern.
There is a documented case of a concealed pistol going off in an MRI (LEO who didn't want to leave the gun potentially unsecured in dressing locker).
Deflection of metal in a magnetic field not always very intuitive. Please don't take the risk of CCW in an MRI. Plus it will screw up the images.
In a case like this there are two responses you make: An emotional response and a physical response. The emotional response is the more important.
In an Eastern religions class in college I learned something the Buddha taught, which is to be detached, and it was explained like this: If someone offers you a present and you don't accept it, the present stays with the giver. Similarly, if someone offers you an insult and you don't accept it, the insult (and any pain it might cause) stays with the giver. On the other hand, if you accept the insult it will hurt. Further, you can choose whether to accept the insult into your heart or to ignore it, and thus choose whether to be hurt or to be unaffected.
So over the years I've practiced being detached from what stupid or insulting things people occasionally say to me, and thus their words do not trigger an emotional response in me, leaving me free to either ignore them or take action as appropriate: but with me in control of my actions rather than being triggered by my emotions.
For the physical response, I've developed the habit of just looking someone in the eyes and saying "thank you!". As along as this is backed up by a lack of heated emotion, then this usually leaves the person nonplussed if they were feeling self-righteous, or angry at themselves if they were trying to get a rise out of me and often puts them on the defensive while leaving me free of emotion that clouds my situational awareness.
In an Eastern religions class in college I learned something the Buddha taught, which is to be detached, and it was explained like this: If someone offers you a present and you don't accept it, the present stays with the giver. Similarly, if someone offers you an insult and you don't accept it, the insult (and any pain it might cause) stays with the giver. On the other hand, if you accept the insult it will hurt. Further, you can choose whether to accept the insult into your heart or to ignore it, and thus choose whether to be hurt or to be unaffected.
So over the years I've practiced being detached from what stupid or insulting things people occasionally say to me, and thus their words do not trigger an emotional response in me, leaving me free to either ignore them or take action as appropriate: but with me in control of my actions rather than being triggered by my emotions.
For the physical response, I've developed the habit of just looking someone in the eyes and saying "thank you!". As along as this is backed up by a lack of heated emotion, then this usually leaves the person nonplussed if they were feeling self-righteous, or angry at themselves if they were trying to get a rise out of me and often puts them on the defensive while leaving me free of emotion that clouds my situational awareness.
Erik M
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Helped that quote out a bit
Seriously though, I dont know if i could keep my mouth shut if a complete stranger insulted me in that manner.
dkk73
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mfcmb-
You are a better person than I. I don't mean that facetiously... That is a really good way to look at it. Instead of "sucking it up", it does indeed make a lot of sense to view it as you do. Kind of Viktor Frankl-like... Ultimately, it's we who let people "rent space in our heads".
larry_minn
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wc fields comment to the lady who called him a drunk comes to mind
IIRC it was something like. "Madam in the morning I will be sober but you will still be UGLY"
That being case it does not seem to track? The OP will still be a gun nut (I assume) unlike the drunk who will be sober (if he stops drinking) The women will still be ugly (unless OP drinks a LOT then she might look better)
IIRC it was something like. "Madam in the morning I will be sober but you will still be UGLY"
That being case it does not seem to track? The OP will still be a gun nut (I assume) unlike the drunk who will be sober (if he stops drinking) The women will still be ugly (unless OP drinks a LOT then she might look better)
Dravur
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I would have turned to the old lady and said..."The voices in my head don't like you" and then I would have bugged out my eyes, and rolled them around in my head moaning the theme song from the exorcist.
Then I would have sat back and continued reading as she ran screaming from the bus.
I really would have done that.
Then I would have sat back and continued reading as she ran screaming from the bus.
I really would have done that.
I like to say something along the lines of "Forming and sharing opinions without knowledge or understanding if prejudice and hateful. I find that very offensive."
It works great to get liberal anti's thinking a little, or at least throws them off guard quite a bit.
It works great to get liberal anti's thinking a little, or at least throws them off guard quite a bit.
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