Is the market slowly recovering?

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From a blog post made by Powder Valley Inc...

"Remington primer production capacity has never been great. The hope would be that Vista will place more emphasis on getting the Remington primer production capacity increased substantially and quickly."

https://www.powdervalleyinc.com/blog/

Regardless of their previous record now under new ownership I see a vast opportunity to greatly improve their market standing. Question is will they take advantage of this situation?
 
History shows that a company needs to be ready to produce during the panic, not after it. Hopefully they get back up to full capacity, but it's anybody's guess if they add additional resources because this scare will probably be followed by a lull in sales.
 
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Are you sure this is correct about not being able to trade our own cast lead bullets? I'm just starting to cast my own bullets. Not planning on doing any trading or selling but seems like if I wanted to trade them, I could do so. No?

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It’s not illegal to mail toilet paper. Can’t say the same for primers. As it says in another thread you can’t even trade your own cast lead bullets without a FFL and International permit. Maybe you or me or some fella down the block can get away with it once or twice. Is it worth the risk of 3am no-knock warrant?
You know what’s really different this time? A bunch of folks are in denial. And they won’t tolerate anybody busting their bubble. The market isn’t catching up. It’s clearing out.
 
I dont trade them, I gift them. If they gift me some that's great.
That’s the spirit! If one doesn’t know the law, doesn’t like the law, thinks it’s a stupid law, or just doesn’t want to go to the trouble to get fully informed, just come up with an apparent workaround to keep the conscience clear:) If I’m wrong, I apologize in advance.
 
From a blog post made by Powder Valley Inc...

"Remington primer production capacity has never been great. The hope would be that Vista will place more emphasis on getting the Remington primer production capacity increased substantially and quickly."
I would hope so as well.
 
That’s the spirit! If one doesn’t know the law, doesn’t like the law, thinks it’s a stupid law, or just doesn’t want to go to the trouble to get fully informed, just come up with an apparent workaround to keep the conscience clear:) If I’m wrong, I apologize in advance.
The only law I care about was written a very long time ago and is housed in the national archives located in DC.
 
I believe it is recovering, and it should because this is the USA. I can’t go buy 1000 primers now, but I can still get them a little at a time.

I also just bought IMR SR4759 at $24/lb. Good price, especially for powder that no longer exists in production.
 
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Since I started this thread I have also gone on to look at other reloading supplies and tools. RCBS and Lee are practically Out of Stock on nearly everything. I asked for a new Hornady reloading book and even that was sold out almost everywhere my wife looked. Then just the other night I went on to ebay and was cruising thru the reloading presses. I was seeing old beat up, incomplete Lee Pro1000 presses starting at $300.00.. There was even an old Lee 3 hole press that was incomplete with a starting bid of $500.00 and many of the little Lee C presses at above their new MSLP. Oh yeah there was also one new Lee Value Turret press with a starting bid of $250.00 which when in stock sell for about $85.00

Another item I was looking for was a collet for my RCBS Bullet puller. Yeah those are nowhere to be found just like primers.

One last thought on Remington primers. If they can get restarted and just fill the void left when S&B pulled out of the market it would be a big help for all of us.
 
Since I started this thread I have also gone on to look at other reloading supplies and tools. RCBS and Lee are practically Out of Stock on nearly everything. I asked for a new Hornady reloading book and even that was sold out almost everywhere my wife looked. Then just the other night I went on to ebay and was cruising thru the reloading presses. I was seeing old beat up, incomplete Lee Pro1000 presses starting at $300.00.. There was even an old Lee 3 hole press that was incomplete with a starting bid of $500.00 and many of the little Lee C presses at above their new MSLP. Oh yeah there was also one new Lee Value Turret press with a starting bid of $250.00 which when in stock sell for about $85.00

Another item I was looking for was a collet for my RCBS Bullet puller. Yeah those are nowhere to be found just like primers.

One last thought on Remington primers. If they can get restarted and just fill the void left when S&B pulled out of the market it would be a big help for all of us.
Yeah and with the pandemic, no big gun shows (around here anyway) to get the local stuff either. Half of my equipment and components are from shows the last one I went to was February. Glad I stocked up (or hoarded).
 
Since I started this thread I have also gone on to look at other reloading supplies and tools. RCBS and Lee are practically Out of Stock on nearly everything. I asked for a new Hornady reloading book and even that was sold out almost everywhere my wife looked. Then just the other night I went on to ebay and was cruising thru the reloading presses. I was seeing old beat up, incomplete Lee Pro1000 presses starting at $300.00.. There was even an old Lee 3 hole press that was incomplete with a starting bid of $500.00 and many of the little Lee C presses at above their new MSLP. Oh yeah there was also one new Lee Value Turret press with a starting bid of $250.00 which when in stock sell for about $85.00

Another item I was looking for was a collet for my RCBS Bullet puller. Yeah those are nowhere to be found just like primers.

One last thought on Remington primers. If they can get restarted and just fill the void left when S&B pulled out of the market it would be a big help for all of us.
One might think this is stuff that people overpaid during the last shortage and are now trying to recover from overpaying. It may be easier and way less money to.post a looking for thread. I dont buy or sell here but that's exactly how people do it on my bass fishing website. Some people have gear that is sitting around and people are not exactly motivated to sell but will make an effort to help a fellow sportsman.
 
Yeah and with the pandemic, no big gun shows (around here anyway) to get the local stuff either.

We quit going to the shows/swap meets around here a few years ago. Got tired of paying $7.00 to get in and look at others stuff for sale and still coming home $7.00 poorer. Around here the gun priced are highly over inflated, hardly ever any used reloading stuff and tables and table full of WWII memorabilia or knives.
 
[QUOTE="AJC1, post: 11757442, member: 261456" It may be easier and way less money to.post a looking for thread. I dont buy or sell here but that's exactly how people do it on my bass fishing website. .[/QUOTE]

That is exactly what I did to find the Small Rifle Primers I needed. Posted a Wanted to Trade in the classified subforums. Worked out very well for everyone.
 
We quit going to the shows/swap meets around here a few years ago. Got tired of paying $7.00 to get in and look at others stuff for sale and still coming home $7.00 poorer. Around here the gun priced are highly over inflated, hardly ever any used reloading stuff and tables and table full of WWII memorabilia or knives.
A little different here in DC suburbs. Big show (1300 long tables), three days every six weeks, double your price to get in, but it draws sellers from GA to PA, WV, TN. Lines at least a quarter mile long. Parking lot full of Jags, Bimmers, Mercs, Range Rovers.

Last one had four good sized sellers dedicated to reloading. Prices were as good as a sale online without the shipping or hazmat.

For guns it’s a mixed bag...Friday has best selection, Sunday afternoon the best prices if anything’s left.

We are getting a growing number of memorabilia and knife sellers and other assorted junk, but the unenforceable rules are you must also sell something firearms related.

After I grab my stuff and take it to my car, I wander around window shopping and watching for straw sales—common place.
 
I feel like powder and bullets have become more available over the last month, at least locally for me. Only ones I can't find are H4895, H4350, and H1000, which were unobtainium before this "shortage" here. The "alternatives" to those powders have recently become available though, and I'm really liking a few! Still get a laugh/chuckle when I ask about primers at the 3 stores that carry them.
 
I dont trade them, I gift them. If they gift me some that's great.
Well, maybe you’re one of those elite folks too important to be prosecuted. Or maybe the prosecutor will say, “Obviously you didn’t mean to break the law so, no harm.” Or maybe you’re just more willing than me to risk a cushy job and fat retirement and that 3am no-knock warrant of heavily armed federal agents won’t bother you. Me, I don’t think that sounds like a good idea. Best of luck and Merry Christmas.
 
Supports why they’ve been hard to find over the years
For only some people looking for them not so much for others. There is zero universal experience with this just like there isn't a single root cause for the current situation - and still DOES support supply issues with domestic production as well as lack of recent imports, that were not present during similar past shortages. Much, much better to look through windows for objective facts than stare into some mirror thinking everyone can't possibly be different. But only if objective facts are sought to begin with instead of some Orwellian declaration what facts are by fiat.

Here are just two results of the simple search for the words "Remington Primers" I mentioned earlier posted by me (as a very simple filter) in the sticky thread about where reloading components are these days, and I know I wasn't the only member posting such info this year. Plus this does not include Remington primers I purchased by picking them up in person off a brick & mortar store shelf then taking to a checkout station, that I previously posted about.

https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...et-small-pistol-primers.873518/#post-11608684


https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...able-these-days.707473/page-197#post-11601210

Definite supply issues without a munitions plant burning down, etc. yet with both retail shelf B&M availability as well as online purchase availability within the most recent 6 months, whether any particular purchaser made use of these facts and information about where & when available for online purchase.

Because it isn’t.

Did a factory burn down? Have there been any external forces limiting manufacturing capacity or distribution? Hurricanes, floods, acts of God or government?

No.

By all accounts, manufacturing output is at an all time high. That’s the supply side.

You want to know what the problem is? Look in the mirror

I STILL haven't seen any reports the Lonoke AR facilty manufacturing output is at an all time high. The last such report I saw regarding that facility is additional personnel were being added to bring facility staff up to about 700 employees, and I didn't see any report how that figure might compare with staff required to achieve manufacturing at an all time high.
 
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For only some people looking for them not so much for others. There is zero universal experience with this just like there isn't a single root cause for the current situation - and still DOES support supply issues with domestic production as well as lack of recent imports, that were not present during similar past shortages. Much, much better to look through windows for objective facts than stare into some mirror thinking everyone can't possibly be different. But only if objective facts are sought to begin with instead of some Orwellian declaration what facts are by fiat.

Here are just two results of the simple search for the words "Remington Primers" I mentioned earlier posted by me (as a very simple filter) in the sticky thread about where reloading components are these days, and I know I wasn't the only member posting such info this year. Plus this does not include Remington primers I purchased by picking them up in person off a brick & mortar store shelf then taking to a checkout station, that I previously posted about.

https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...et-small-pistol-primers.873518/#post-11608684


https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...able-these-days.707473/page-197#post-11601210

Definite supply issues without a munitions plant burning down, etc. yet with both retail shelf B&M availability as well as online purchase availability within the most recent 6 months, whether any particular purchaser made use of these facts and information about where & when available for online purchase.



I STILL haven't seen any reports the Lonoke AR facilty manufacturing output is at an all time high. The last such report I saw regarding that facility is additional personnel were being added to bring facility staff up to about 700 employees, and I didn't see any report how that figure might compare with staff required to achieve manufacturing at an all time high.
I can’t recall a previous time when state and local governments forced businesses to close their doors and send working people home, can anybody else? Maybe that’s one part of the supply chain that got broke deliberately?
 
I can’t recall a previous time when state and local governments forced businesses to close their doors and send working people home, can anybody else? Maybe that’s one part of the supply chain that got broke deliberately?

While that is a good debate I believe that is also highly doubtfully proven and is also drifting away from the question presented.
 
I hope I'm wrong but if supplies are recovering it would be the shortest drought I've ever seen. I think people have been distracted by the holidays.

Don't forget that there is still a good possibility the senate may go Democrat.
 
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