is this period correct? plus do they make this with the colt design instead

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Yes, there were original Remington Revolver Carbines in 36 and 44 cal cap and ball, 38 and 46 rimfire, and allegedly 45 lc, the last of which I find highly dubious. Figuring out how to hold them is tricky and why anything longer than an 18" barrel is inexplicable to me.

Lots of info here http://www.remingtonsociety.org/a-study-of-remington-revolving-rifles/

I'm unaware of any original, or newmaginary, Colt revolving rifles.
 
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Thank You, Dog Soldier.

Unfortunately that article makes it seem the 1855 series was Colt's first go at carbines and rifles using his revolver designs. Actually some of his earlist guns in the 1830s where stocked carbines. Some where used in the Seminole War where they were seen by a certain Army Officer and soon to be Texas Ranger named Walker. He was impressed. He used colt's belt revolvers in Texas and when the fracus with Mexico got started.....well you know that story.

The 1855 was a Root design and not from the Patterson.

I never understood why some sort of shield much like on the Taurus designed revolving rifles and shotguns today could not have been added to the 1855. Certainly having such on the left side of the cylinder window would not have prevented normal loading and would have protected the right handed shooter from most of the danger of chain fires. I would thing a small wedge like guard forward of the loading window might well have sent any balls and flame from the right side away from the right handed firers supporting hand as well.

People are also usually un aware that Savage made a rifle version of their (sort of) DA revolver that was in carbine form as well. This had the sealing cylinder that the pistols had and was later adopted in the Nagant Revolvers.

No idea why none of them did not sell well.....unless it was price.

If I hade one of the Pietta Brass frame Remngton NMA (1858) "Buffalo" with a foot of barrel and adjustable sights I would start working on a stock for it in a heart beat. Just think it would be neat.

I have seen images of a "Brevet" Colt, one of the liscense built guns from Belgium that appeared to be an 1851 navy that had been permanently stocked and given a 10 or 12 inch barrel. The stock was a pistol grip type like the "C" stock on an 03-A3 spring field and looked very nice.

I ran into a non firing model of an 1855 rifle in a photo shop down by the bay in SF California once and that is the only one I have seen. The shop folks seemed to think it was Japanese made and of zinc.

-kBob
 
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Stocks on handguns predates the flint lock. The issue here seems to be a dedicated platform for a short shoulder arm. The "Cook Off" issue became a safety problem. The Colt 1855 was used during the Civil War. This link should provide an over view of the Colt offering. :)

http://www.militaryfactory.com/smallarms/detail.asp?smallarms_id=350
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so I take it the only replica made is the Remington listed at midwayusa I posted? I really liked the Paterson its cool looking to me! but this colt 1855 rifle in 56 caliber wow! I bet that's fun!! ;)
 
It depends. These were close quarters Calvary arms. The accuracy may not be great beyond 50 yards? The big issue is the Remington incorporates a very small "arbor pin" and fouls after a few cylinders. It lack the Roger & Spencer boss to block the powder and carbon that locks up the cylinder. If I bought one, I would contact Mike at Goons Gun Service for an up grade.:thumbup:
 
These were made by ASM for EMF in the '70's and '80's and were based on original Colt 3rd Dragoons that were issued with stocks and rifle sights. I think Fingers McGee and Lonesomepigeon both have examples. This one was on GB for a long time before the seller finally got his reserve from someone:
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Ephraim, I would be very interested to see an example or other documentation of an original Third Model Dragoon with an 18" barrel.

BTW, I had this ASM for several years. It had the barrel address and serial numbers of an original, but the shoulder stock was a dead giveaway.

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I do know the barrel is too short on the repro Remington revolving rifles by a few inches. One could always pretend it was a shortened one for the trail. :)
 
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So true. I always wanted a Colt Burgess Rifle. An old friend owned one many years ago. They were an eye catching lever gun. Problem is they now cost more than a used Jeep CJ.:(

http://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/57/1298/colt-burgess-rifle#detail
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I bought a Uberti repro of the Colt's 1883 Burgess Carbine from Dixie Gun Works for maybe $900.00 last year. Ok not an original but still a very nice, easy pointing carbine in .44-40. I hear they're made in .45 Colt but never seen one.
 
Just to be sure the taylers gun is bassed on the Remington "1858" patent guns and is basically the NMA with a long barrel and permanent stock.

It has no real relation to the COLT 1855.

As CraigC pointed out the First COLT guns offered to market were Pattersen type action percussion Revolving cylinder Carbines with permanent shoulder stocks. These were the guns used in the Seminole wars over a decade before the Root style 1855 came out.

BTW Colt made the 1855 series guns as shotguns as well. Not a lot but some.

-kBob
 
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