OilyPablo
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95XL - You nailed it. It's a failure of the current crowd in DC.
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed
With all that is known so far on Mateen (wife beater, interviewed by FBI, travel to Saudi Arabia, anti-American Afghani father, co-worker complaints, etc), the fact that he wasn’t being watched is appalling. Hmmm? This seems somewhat similar to the San Bernadino shooters but they weren’t as far out as Mateen was. Clearly Johnson is not doing his job and is deflecting to save his own butt.
Johnson is deflecting from the fact that he isn’t doing his job!
I heard that on the radio yesterday. Shocking. This needs wider coverage.DHS actually deleted from its database information which could have prevented both the San Bernardino and Orlando attacks, see http://video.foxnews.com/v/49419878...ks-out-about-jihad-in-america/?#sp=show-clips
95XL883 said:While I don't like any additional gun control measures that is certainly a lot better than what the Dem's want. (Of course, I don't believe the Dem's are trying to do anything but ban guns.) Oh and in a case like Marteen, the Repub's proposal might actually have worked assuming HSA and the FBI were actually doing their jobs.
The AMA is jumping into this also.
They will declare that gun violence is a public health emergency.
Get ready folks, it is coming at us from all sides.
5) Provide harsh penalties for violent crime. Use of a firearm in the commission of a crime - 10 years minimum. If someone is seriously injured: 20 years minimum. If someone is killed: life without parole or death penalty. As it is today, felons who are caught with guns can be federally prosecuted where they can get 5 years for each bullet - don't necessarily agree with that application of federal jurisdiction but if we did this with a fraction of criminal offenses we'd clean up the streets pretty quickly.
Deanimator said:Nothing he wants is going to happen... unless the Republicans decide to hand the House and Senate to the Democrats.
Then people will stay home and they'll lose Congress. Their choice.Sadly, that's not the case. McConnell and Ryan will roll over and wag their tails just like they have on everything else this administration has asked for. Do I really have to start giving examples?
While I don't like any additional gun control measures that is certainly a lot better than what the Dem's want.
Or fold.Nothing he wants is going to happen... unless the Republicans decide to hand the House and Senate to the Democrats.
Folding is exactly the same thing as giving Congress to the Democrats.Or fold.
The current administration is desperate to ban semiautomatic type rifles. They are afraid they will lose in November and want to do something now. All we have to do is stand tough. Problem is, we are counting on the pro gun politicians not to fold. We must put pressure on them.
The result would of course be the same.Folding is exactly the same thing as giving Congress to the Democrats.
I'm interested to see how 'conservatives' will react to calls for gun control from this perspective. "It's a matter of national security!