Just tell me it will be OK!

[Gordon Fink]

All guns are junk, so just get a new extractor and be happy.

~G. Fink

 

[txgho1911]

Get it fixed

I found my extractor loosened up and re tensioning was all it needed. That is not enough for me so I have a spare now I keep in the truck. I may keep tensing this old "B" stamped SS extractor that came in a SA 1911. I may swap it after my next range trip and save it for range trips only.
This part I understand has a poor history.

Once it is fixed maybe a lil research on the parts and a spare to keep at home or in vehicle for when you lose confidence in it. Or it breaks. Get a smith to prefit spares.

 

[Mulliga]

Pistols like the CZ cost less money, and have lots of steel. They can do it with real materials, and for less. That means the MIM monkeys (there are more than just Kahr) are just stealing your money.

I'm a diehard CZ fan, but I've had some parts break on my 75B (firing pin and trigger spring). I got it fixed, shot four or five hundred rounds through it, and pronounced it ready for duty again. No gun is perfect, and brands don't guarantee reliability either - I've seen SIGs that were jammomatics (not common, but it happens) and GLOCK springs are made the same as everyone else's, not of some futuristic hyperalloy. You have to replace recoil springs and such regularly anyway for all autoloaders - is anyone really surprised a part can break occasionally?

arthurcw, get it fixed and shoot a few hundred rounds through it. If it's back to normal, I'd say all is well.

 

[ajax]

Just get your gun fixed and don't listen to the bashers who will always tell you their sob story how an entire manufacture sucks because they got one bad gun. Don't put to much stock in the talk about how bad MIM parts are either if I was you. Get on the old www. and get some answers about MIM parts if your worried about their use in your firearm.Some of the guys around here are set in their ways and when something isn't what their used to or like you will here their horror stories about how bad they are. MIM parts are just one of many topics.

 

[Zen21Tao]

My primary concealed carry guns are a Glock 29 10mm and a Sig P239 .40S&W. Both are great. The Glock, being a double stack, is somewhat bulkier than the Sig but the extra umph of 10mm is worth the slightly less confort. As for those with small hands, the Sig is an excellant option. It is a single stack, which also means less printing, that holds 7+1 .40S&W/.357Sig or 8+1 9mm. Just my 2 cents.

 

[SAG0282]

Get yourself a GLOCK or SIG, you'll be good to go from then on out.

 

[BIGDADDYLONGSTROKE]

I have probably put atleast 3000 rounds through my Springfield XD 9mm with no problems. Just a suggestion.

 

[Hacker15E]

Mechanical things will fail -- it doesn't mean that the whole pistol is a piece of crap. Just buy a new extractor and press on.

 

[XavierBreath]

Her extractor just flat broke. It looks like an old die cast toy that you finally bent enough that it has shattered.

Figure out why it failed. Have you been dropping rounds directly into the chamber? Was it contacting the barrel? I'm unsure of other possibilities, but see if you can ascertain the reason for failure.

When you do cleanings, inspect the part. Take a handle of a plastic spoon (a handy cleaning tool, KFC has the best ones......) and work the extractor back and forth while inspecting it.

Finally, get it fixed and stop doing what weakened it (if anything). I am not sure of the quality of the recent Kahrs, but the older steel ones were very good.

I have seen parts fail on $36M aircraft that were carrying weapons which cause great concern. Sure, those parts should not have failed either, but they did. Parts is parts. Nothing is foolproof. Inspect your carry gun as well as clean it. Know what the parts should look like, and suspect any thing that is out of the norm. Perform preventative maintenance. Otherwise, you are asking for this kind of failure. The inspections and preventative maintenance will save your tail. Changing guns will not. All guns have the potential for failure. Choosing another gun without instituting a system of preventing failures from occuring is an open door for another incident.

 

[murphy54]

IT WILL BE OK..

 

[The Real Hawkeye]

No offense, but Kahr is garbage.

I bought my P9 when it first hit the market. After uncounted thousands of rounds, it has never failed. Eventually, a small plastic part did break, but guess what, it still worked flawlessly while broken. I eventually sent it back, and they replaced it with a steel part, which is how they are making them now (I guess a lot of people had that plastic part break). She still works 100%. I have every confidence in a Kahr P9. Just have them replace the extractor, and carry a back up gun. Alternatively, after getting the extractor fixed, buy another Kahr. Test out the new car with what you will be carrying to your satisfaction, then never shoot it again, short of shooting out old ammo and replacing it. Only carry the new Kahr, and practice exclusively with you old Kahr. This way, you will likely never wear out a part on the new gun, and it will be in great shape for a SHTF situation, should it be called upon. All guns suffer from parts breakage from time to time. Just ask a police or military armorer. Just something you have to deal with.

 

[arthurcw]

‘Why it broke’ is a real good question. I do a thorough cleaning and inspection after each shoot and do a wipe down, barrel swab, and quick inspection every couple of weeks if I haven't been to the range. I shoot every other week (mostly) so it stays clean. I work all the mechanisms to test them and the extractor moved fine. It still does (what is left of it anyway).

I never drop rounds in the chamber; and the only other person who shoots it (wife) never did either.

There is no mark on the barrel suggesting it was slamming against it.

I have to just assume it's a bad part. I first thought it was some grit or something that got into the works and did not allow the extractor to move, but it seems to move freely.

The only other thing I can think of is that the round's casing was somehow messed up and snapped the extractor (?). But even then I would have expected a jam or FTF first? Unfortunately at the range I have access to, no one polices their brass so finding my casings is always a chore under the best of circumstances. I went late in the day so the brass fairy was already quite pleased with her work there. Finding my 9mm case among the perma-brass surface was not gonna happen.

Anyone else have any idea what else I should inspect before it goes back home to Massachusetts for a visit?

 

[Jenrick]

If you can get a good deal (got mine for $850) an H&K P7M8 is a wonderful carry piece. Acruate, reliable, and can still cycle and run w/o an ejector (fluted chamber. However they are expensive, parts and mags are expensive, etc. Great weapon to own if you can get a good deal however.

-Jenrick

 

[farranger]

If you have small hands try a Walther99 or SW99, a Ruger P95 might fit, but heavy for carry, Browning Hi-powers, the sigs mentioned above are good too. 1911's fit good, I just don't like their less than awesome reliability. I know, I know, flame me.

 

[The Real Hawkeye]

I just don't like their less than awesome reliability. I know, I know, flame me.

No flame, you're just dead wrong. I've had and been shooting 1911s since the early 1980s. Must have had fifteen of them at one time or another. The vast majority were as reliable as a typical Sig or Glock. I have five that I would stake my life on right now. After many thousands of rounds through each, none of them have ever malfunctioned in any way, using modern hollow point ammo. I'll bet, though, that the 1911s that you've had experience with were all compact and/or lightweight ones. No, I'm no psychic. It's just that whenever I hear complaints about the unreliability of 1911s, the guy who says it isn't into full sized all steel guns. The guns I have are all either Commander sized or full sized, and all but one is all steel. This is as they were designed to be. The nature of the design makes it very hard to get them to work reliably when cut short or lightened up. Takes more tuning to get them reliable when short and light. If you want a dead reliable 1911, and don't want to mess with it, buy a Springfield Armory full sized all steel 1911A1. You will not be sorry. These carry and conceal as well or better than the chopped down 1911s. Sounds hard to believe, but it's true.

 

[Kodiaz]

I thought Kahr's were pretty pricey. How about a Kimber?

I'd say Ruger for a full size but I don't think they make a small CCW model.


Have you tried one of the little Glocks. I had a guy at the range say some nice things about my Kimber so I asked about his little pocket Glock(it was a tiny 45)

Well I handed my kimber and a mag and he handed me his Glock it was very accurate and the DA trigger was really nice. I shot a nice group.


I don't think you could go wrong with one of the small Glocks.