Kabooming Glocks (and not 23s either)

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"I'm looking through the Glock manual and I'm trying to find that part where it tells you to remove the trigger by BLOWING it out the bottom of the gun. Can you help me locate that page please?"

Send me your Glock and I will send it back like that. Dont need to read books on that!
 
Yea, I still chuckl'n, and waiting until after 6:00 pm. Hell hath no furry as Glockster with a kaboom.
 
"Isn't it funny that 99% of the KABOOM stories involve Glocks?"


Yes it really is :D

But want to hear something funnier? All of these are just stories:cool:

And this KABOOM word is invented by people who have Glock envy!
 
then how did Glock manage to hoodwink millions of Glock owners?

Actually it was invented by Glock Owners to describe what happened to their gun.

They are not just stories, they are incidents where a particular brand of firearm blows in in people's hands and it all seems to be most common with a Glock.
 
No you are mistaken. When was last time u had ur gun blown in ur hand? If it ever did i suggest that u use glock ....just to be on safer side.
 
Most people I know HATE glocks, some where cops or had experiance with them in some official capacity. I dont personally have a problem with them but i dont own any either. Glock blames the .45GAP ammo, a round they designed (designed for the porpose of luring departments who were steadfast with their older .45acp handguns) for the failures in the first story. They blame the KBs in the second on poor maintainence, performed Im sure by a GLOCK certified police "armorer".
 
the SLIDE SHOW doesnt have any glock firearms in it. i dont get that? what are you trying to prove?? not trying to say anything bad, just wanting to know why in a glock kaboom thread, you show picks of 1911's? brian
 
"Isn't it funny that 99% of the KABOOM stories involve Glocks?"


Yes it really is

But want to hear something funnier? All of these are just stories

And this KABOOM word is invented by people who have Glock envy!
:rolleyes:I'm sorry, I just giggled a little bit... sorry.:D

Jason
 
the SLIDE SHOW doesnt have any glock firearms in it. i dont get that? what are you trying to prove?? not trying to say anything bad, just wanting to know why in a glock kaboom thread, you show picks of 1911's?

I'm betting he was hoping that people would realize that these thing don't just happen to Glocks. I'm a Glock fan but I really don't have anything to say about these failures except that Glock should find some other way of making these guns reliable without throating the hell out of the barrel to the point that case head ruptures become so common people have a name for it.
 
No kidding. To have a catastropic failure named because of your product. Must be embarrassing.
 
kaboooming Glocks

It is not just pressure, the 45 GAP sammi pressure is 23000 psi, most ammo is around 20-21000 psi. The 9 mm round is 35000 psi. The Glock chamber is 5/1000 over sized, and unsupported, simple as that, in another pistol the same round may not have blown up. My G 31 blew up, the head of the case completely separated from the shell case. The extractor and mag blew out. It jarred my hands. I sent the G 31 and shell to Glock. Glock replaced the extractor and firing pin and mailed it back with a note saying that it met thier specs and was ready to shoot. I sold it and bought and XD, which incendently, has a sammi spec chamber and is 100 % supported chamber. I have replaced my G 22, G23, G30, G31 . At the present I still have a G17, and a G37. Looks like they may go also.
 
Back when all we shot were revolvers (LEO) We had quite a few KABOOM:what: Those days they did not trust the Semi Autos because of all the problems they had with them:uhoh:

Glocks are famous for blow ups for reasons that are not all the guns fault. I remember to well the guys who loaded their own ammo, blew up the gun, lied..Then when the truth came out and they pled the 5th, got days off or were fired, I am sure it still goes on:D

At the range I shoot at if you rent a gun from them they only allow you to shoot the ammo they sell, I said why? Answer...We know what ammo you are shooting and never have problems with it :p

When shooting 22 ammo whenever I have a problem with the pistol not cycling properly I can tell by the sound of the pop. It is weaker and the slide does not work right Hmmmmmmmmmmm:cuss:

Could have been a regular 45 acp lead bullet, crimped to tight, shot in the GAP and no one is saying anything :neener:
 
Something like 70% of law enforcement carries Glocks. I'd be willing to bet that civilian ownership mirrors that. So there are more Glocks being used than all other brands combined. Statistically speaking, these incidents are actually quite rare. The only reason we ever hear about them is because there are many, many people who absolutely positively despise Glocks for whatever reason. These people will go out of their way to dig up any dirt they can find about "bad" Glocks. You don't hear about other guns KB'ing as much because there are fewer of them in service compared to Glocks, and because none of the other brands seems to have such a loyal, and very vocal, hate group.

I personally don't understand all this nonsense. I mean, if you don't like Glocks, fine. Why do you have to bash them every chance you get? I like Glocks, but I also like many other pistols. I also dislike a few, but I don't go out of my way to badmouth the guns I don't like every chance I get like all the Glock haters seem to do. For example, I hate SIGs, but I don't go around trying to find dirt on SIG pistols failing, nor do I visit every SIG pistol thread on the 'net just to post something negative about them. Many Glock haters do exactly that. Why don't they just get over it already, and just get a life?
 
This isn't a bash GLOCK thread, this is reporting a story that just came out about Winter Haven's police dept.

2 guns out of 90 does not make a good statistic.

Methinks some doth protest too much. :D
 
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This is a bash Glock thread...
They should rename this forum...the Low Road for low brows attempting to quote Shakespeare.
 
Isn't it funny that 99% of the KABOOM stories involve Glocks?

Isn't it also interesting that 99% of those Glock kabooms happen to police officers?
 
This isn't a bash GLOCK thread, this is reporting a story that just came out about Winter Haven's police dept.

2 guns out of 90 does not make a good statistic.

Methinks some doth protest too much.
It's all about bad ammo that makes a gun KB.

On Thursday, a spokesman for Speer, the company that makes the ammo the officers were using, took responsibility for the incidents. Ernest Durham, a spokesman for Speer, says his company sent Winter Haven a defective load of ammo.

After the first gun blew, Speer asked Winter Haven to return whatever shells were left. Officers thought they did. But some members of the SWAT Team still had ammo loaded in their guns. The next time they practiced, another gun blew.

"If the ammo was collected and replaced, the second gun wouldn't have ruptured," said Durham.
http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/myfox/...ale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1
 
Glocks Kaboom?!? Blasphemy!!!

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Some of the kabooms reported as being due to Glock's design were confirmed as being due to problems with the ammo. The early Federal .40 rounds had issues, and the Portland Glocks that blew were determined to by White Labs to have gone up due to overcharged ammo. As for maintenance, the problem tends to be oiling the striker channel and/or failing to clean it. Both will cause issues.

:) Yes, except like all things, 'Glock' those batches of over-pressure Federal 45 acp ammo don't tell the whole story; and, by Glock's own subsequent admission, there was a lot more involved in the PPB kaBoom! events than just that Federal ammo. The old #4256 trigger bars were also - and, perhaps, most culpably - involved.

I've, probably, read every Glock kaBoom! thread ever written. I've studied all the theories, and probable causes. I think Glock, Austria, knows the correct answer, too, but isn't going to be anymore forthcoming now than in the past.

Would you like my personal opinion? :D

I believe that in addition to all of Glock's other well-known shortcomings; i.e.: larger chambers, heavy chamber rebate, negative frame harmonics, excessive polymer flex, plastic guide rods, defective rails, and that run of defective 45 acp barrels the factory sent out a few years ago something else is taking place.

Still want my opinion? :D

In particular regard to Glock pistols above 9mm chambering, I think Glock's weak, 'Modified Browning Lockup' occasionally opens up too soon; and, THIS is the principal leading cause of Glock's mysterious kaBoom! problems. :cool:







(Feel free to disagree; but, I strongly suspect that I'm correct. Oh yeah, I also carry a Glock Model G-21, everyday, and have been a frequent contributor on Glock Talk with a total post count of well over 8,000 posts during the past 5 years. However, it should be obvious that I ain't no Kool-Aid drinker!) ;)
 
Darn and I just heard rumors that Portland might thing about allowing the .45acp back into service. Well probably not.

I am not a glock fan but I would like to say that since glocks have such a huge market share of the LEO market it makes sense that they would have a comparable market share of failures.
 
This is ridiculous. Speer, the maker of the .45GAP ammo that blew up the two Glocks in question has already admitted it was their fault. It was a bad batch of ammo, they asked the PD to return it after the first incedent, but not all ammo got returned, so they had a second blow up. This is not the fault of the pistol, as usual it is bad ammo that blew these two Glocks. If it had been an HK, SIG, S&W, or Beretta that blew up with bad ammo we never would have heard about it. People would say, "Oh, it was bad ammo, not the guns fault.", but when it's a Glock that blows with bad ammo, "OMG, it all because those Glocks are all defective pieces of crap!!!" Whatever :rolleyes:

You know, I'd be willing to bet that if we had the internet back in the revolver days of law enforcement, we would be hearing about S&W revolvers blowing up a lot more than any other brand, since S&W held the lion's share of the LE market back then, just like Glock does today. Hmmmm.
 
Yes, except like all things, 'Glock' those batches of over-pressure Federal 45 acp ammo don't tell the whole story; and, by Glock's own subsequent admission, there was a lot more involved in the PPB kaBoom! events than just that Federal ammo. The old #4256 trigger bars were also - and, perhaps, most culpably - involved.

The trigger bar was linked to issues LAPD was having. I've never heard it associated with Portland.

The White Labs report seemed pretty definitive that it was the ammo. They were willing to do other testing, but Portland wouldn't pay for it.
 
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