Kabooming Glocks (and not 23s either)

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It happens to the best of 'em. Seems like it happens to GLOCK because there are FAR more GLOCKs in use than any of the above.

Yes, I too have seen MANY KB's but not a ONE of them that blew out the whole frigging trigger assembly out on the ground! ROLFMAO :neener:
 
Some stuff never changes this article and the Captain steps down...
So many that bad mouth the Glock and many don't even shoot them or are to young to own a gun:evil:
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WINTER HAVEN | The company that manufactures the ammunition for the .45-caliber GAP Glock Model 37 is taking responsibility for guns exploding during two separate training incidents, slightly injuring a Winter Haven police officer and a former police cadet.

Winter Haven Police Captain Steps Down

A spokesman for Speer Gold Dot, the manufacturer of the ammunition, said Thursday that a batch of bullets sent to the Winter Haven department was defective.

Speer Gold Dot said after the first incident in January 2007 it recalled the bullets sent to Winter Haven but that some of the ammunition remained at the department and was used when the second incident occurred earlier this year.

Winter Haven Police Chief Mark LeVine confirmed Thursday that Speer Gold Dot had recalled the bullets after the first failure. He said some of the ammunition was kept unknowingly and a bullet from that batch was involved in the second explosion.

LeVine said he's not convinced that the ammunition was the only problem and he still has concerns about the Glock handguns.

LeVine told The Ledger on Wednesday that the department was discontinuing use of the GAP Glock Model 37 because of concerns about safety.

A Glock spokesman on Wednesday said the company stood by the quality of its products, but that it hadn't been able to examine the firearms in the Winter Haven incidents and could not say whether there were any problems with them.

Glock has said that any problems with its firearms are the result of the ammunition in use or poor maintenance of the weapons.

On Thursday, a spokesman for Speer Gold Dot said the bullets, not the guns, caused the Winter Haven explosions.

"I made 500 bad cartridges and I shipped them to the Winter Haven Police Department," said Ernest Durnham, cartridge engineer for Speer.

"If I had a problem with my product, then I'll be completely honest with my customer," he said. "And I think that's why Speer Gold is the No. 1 market leader."

Durham said he reviewed quality-control records and concluded the batch the Winter Haven Police Department received should not have been sent.

The Winter Haven Police Department was the only law enforcement agency to receive the bad ammunition, he said.

"The goal of any factory is to have zero defects," Durham said. "My ammunition defect rate is less than 1 in 50 million."

In the Winter Haven incidents, police Officer Frank Scianimanico, 32, and Rodrique Jean-Louis, 20, a former cadet at the Polk Community College Kenneth C. Thompson Institute of Public Safety, suffered bruised fingers. The first occurred in January 2007 and the second in January this year.

LeVine sent a memo in February to his officers saying they could use their own weapons, as long as they met the department's requirements, until the agency buys replacements.

The Police Department will test other weapons next week.

Some agencies have reported problems with Glock products and others have said they have not encountered any problems.

The Portland, Ore., Police Department was once involved in litigation with Glock after two .45-caliber Glock Model 21 pistols exploded in the hands of two officers, Portland Police Sgt. Brian Schmautz said.

City officials there spent a lot of money to investigate the matter but have since resolved the issue with Glock and the department now uses a 9mm Glock.

"Our training division was satisfied with the transition," he said. "(Glock) accepted no liability for what occurred so we moved on."

In a separate litigation, one of the injured Portland police officers filed a multimillion-dollar lawsuit against Glock and the ammunition manufacturer. The lawsuit hasn't been resolved.

The Polk County Sheriff's Office switched to a Glock .40-caliber Model 22 pistol, and there haven't been any incidents with it, said spokeswoman Carrie Rodgers.

[ Merissa Green can be reached at [email protected] or 863-401-6968. ]
 
I remember a thread awhile back about the 1911 being the Harley Davidson of handguns. All of these Glock kaboom threads make me wonder if the Glock is the Firestone of tires!
 
Sooooo... when you blow up a glock/m&p/Xd people are like "oh well yeah that happens". WHen you blow up an 1911, CZ, or Sig, people are like "what the hell did you do wrong?"??
 
Question?

Why is it that when a glock kb is reported glockers train their sights to 1911ners as the usual suspect for a bad press. If its all bad press against glock durabililty, etc. shouldn't other polymer pistol producing company must also get the flak? 'Say, HK, S&W, XD, Walther, etc. Who knows these guys are the ones with great effort to malign glock.

1911s are a totally breed of firearms, a cut above the rest ;) Controls, operations, capacity, it says it all, a totally different firearm compared to glocks.
 
I think part of the reason it seems so much more common in glocks is that its probibly the most recognized handgun made, newer shooters gravitiate towards it, plus its easy to use, rack the slide and pull the trigger (a caveman could do it). We'll never know what types of foolishness comtributes to soem of these failures. 45acp in a 45gap pistol, 380 in a 9mm, who knows (refer to the many threads about dumbass stuff poeple ask in gun shops), lack of proper maintanence/ cleaning. Im sure glocks arent totally flawed, the do serve many poeple and LE agancies well, its probibly just a set of circemstances that are EASIER to line up in glocks vs some others.
 
Why is it that when a glock kb is reported glockers train their sights to 1911ners as the usual suspect for a bad press.
The real question is: Why is it that people are so gleeful at the prospect of a Glock problem that they're willing to publicly crow about it before the facts are all in...

After reading through this thread, all I can say is that there are going to be a lot of very disappointed THR members now that it's clear that it was actually an ammunition problem.
 
Where does that leave me since I like both Glocks and 1911's? Specifically Colt 1911's.

Yup, that's right, I'm not only a Glock Kool-Aid drinker, I'm a proud member of the Colt Cult.
I'm also a fan of Beretta 92's and Browning Hi-Powers, although I don't own any currently.

I must be some kind of weirdo or something since many people seem to think that nobody can actually like more than one pistol type.
 
"Why is it that people are so gleeful at the prospect of a Glock problem"

I think it's a reaction to all the years of looking at "Glock Perfection" ads and logos. They're obviously not perfect.

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I think it's a reaction to all the years of looking at "Glock Perfection" ads and logos. They're obviously not perfect.


I'll give you that. It is a stupid thing of them to say, as nothing made by humans is perfect.
They really should change that.

How about, "Glock, Almost Perfection", or "Glock, Close to Perfection", or "Glock, Near Perfection".

The list could go on, and I'm sure the Glock bashers can come up with some very creative slogans, but they would probably be, shall we say, less than flattering.:uhoh:;)
 
I think it's a reaction to all the years of looking at "Glock Perfection" ads and logos. They're obviously not perfect.
I don't think it's that simple. H&K has a very similar slogan (In a world of compromise, some don't) and they seem to escape the vilification that is part of the Glock experience.

Besides, slogans are practically guaranteed to be misleading. A couple of the most misleading slogans in the gun world are:

Armalite, a history of innovation. (From a company named Eagle Arms that bought the rights to the name of Armalite a few years back and whose current idea of innovation is importing a clone of a clone of a CZ75 from Turkey.)

Springfield Armory, the oldest name in American Firearms. (From a company that hasn't been around that long who sells products that are pretty much exclusively imported.)

When was the last time you heard anything negative about those slogans?
 
"Why is it that people are so gleeful at the prospect of a Glock problem"

I think it's a reaction to all the years of looking at "Glock Perfection" ads and logos. They're obviously not perfect.

Advertising is one of the reasons for it, another is they wanted to use it for advertising, I said it twice so you might understand it.:rolleyes:

The ammo blew up the guns and many times it is the ammos fault along with the people who make it, or reload it. I'll be so bold as to say they are not as perfect as the Glock.

It is very close to being perfect for many, the idea of the interchangable parts and all the extras for it now, The 1911 had its day in the sun, now the Glock is there for many of the shooting world. So many perfect weapons out there now the term perfect is not to be confused with never blows up with bad ammo though of improper handling:uhoh:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/perfect

I remember all the strories about John Browning and what a great gunmaker he was and genuis, true he was and so is the man who invented the Glock.

Both very fine weapons, one is new the other is of an older design. The Browning 9mm is a fine piece of work also. But as of this writting Glock rules the market and has for some time as far as the pistol that has taken over the gun world by storm.

I personally would prefer to not carry it if I was a LEO, I have said it before and I'll say it again, not the ideal weapon for LEO...

LAPD came out with an order about removing your weapon from the holster...Don't do it unless you really need it. There is a reason for that, it is easily discharged in times of confrontation. Not enough safeties as far as I am concerned, for a carry weapon...

I carry mine with an empty chamber, I am not active LEO anymore so I feel that is the best way to carry a pistol, if you are not being paid to carry it.

I would do that if I had a Beretta or a Colt or a S&W, retired means to be retired, in more ways than one:p Ready, willing but not as able as I was 30 years ago.:D
 
QUOTE: "My G 31 blew up, the head of the case completely separated from the shell case. The extractor and mag blew out. It jarred my hands."

Exact same thing happened to my P229.
 
SouthpawShootr,

Same thing as the G31 - the extractor went away and the mag came out.

I was new to reloading and not very careful about bullet seating depth. I sent it off to SIG and they replaced the extractor. Still shoots great!

Tom
 
Something like 70% of law enforcement carries Glocks. I'd be willing to bet that civilian ownership mirrors that. So there are more Glocks being used than all other brands combined.

Riiiiiiight............

S&W has been making handguns for 156 years; most of them are still shooting. One of my examples of S&W quality happens to be exactly 140 years old. S&W was the gun carried by most police departments through much of the 20th century. Then there's Colt, who has been making guns just as long and supplied our military for over 70 years, through several wars. But you're probably right; I'm sure Glock outnumbers them all.

Then there's the fact that Glock reports having sold about 2.5 million pistols worldwide. Colt made that many 1911's-for the US military alone.

If you look at the beef around the 400 Corbon or the 10MM in Glocks chamber, it makes the above S&W look anemic...I'd be very careful if I were you...The Corbon is on the low side of pressure and the 45 super and 10mm are very high

Yup, lot's off beef in a Glock chamber. Too bad the metallurgy sucks

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Find me some photo's of KB'd S&W 3rd gens. Should be easy, since law enforcement all over the country carried them through the '90's and well into this century (Colorado state patrol is just now trading in their 4006's for M&P's). When you google "broken S&W" or "S&W KaBoom", you get lots of unrelated photo's and quite a few hits on Glocks chambered in .40 S&W.

Also, I never said anything of the .400 cor-bon. Why would I bother when I already have 10mm's?:confused:
 
Why are so many Senior Members feeding this fire? This is without a doubt the most ignorant pile of garbage I have ever read on this forum. I thought people took "The High Road" here?!?! It certainly doesn't seem like it. You guys aren't debating the merits or faults of the weapon so much as bashing each other for having your opinions.
This thread is on a very low road.
 
MachIVShooter said:
Yup, lot's off beef in a Glock chamber. Too bad the metallurgy sucks.
Why don't you explain to the other readers why it is obvious that the picture you posted is a picture of a dramatic overpressure incident and doesn't provide any negative information about Glock metallurgy.
 
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