KEL TEC INFO NEEDED
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Greetings scottw,
I would suggest doing both a "search" on this site as well as visit the KelTec Owners Group site at www.ktog.org
I would suggest doing both a "search" on this site as well as visit the KelTec Owners Group site at www.ktog.org
ugaarguy
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I've got a P3AT (2nd Gen) that I bought new. I barely broke it in (somewhere around 500 or 600 rounds) before deploying, but I had zero malfunctions with it. I did not do a fluff & buff or anything else. I just cleaned it after I bought it and started shooting. Fifty to one hundred rounds per range trip is about as much recreational shooting as I tolerate with it. I always tell folks to remember that's an ultra light, ultra small backup or deep concealment gun. Viewed in that context it won't dissapoint. In a DeSantis Nemesis or similar pocket holster it disappears; in CompTac's Centerline neck holster I can carry it under a dark T shirt when walking or jogging where my gym shorts won't support much more than my keys & ID. It pushes the extremes of size & weight, or lack therof, even for the .380, but it does so very well. Very good gun for its intended purpose.
brett30030
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I love mine. Some of the fan websites can be a little biased in how they treat KT products. Make certain that you get a 2nd gen model. They are not very accurate beyond about 5-7 yds (of course, somebody is going to read that and claim that they are annie oakley and consistantly get 1.5" groups at 100 yards shooting one handed with a 60mph crosswind at 2am on a moonless night). Good Luck with your search.
357wheelgunner
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My 9mm P-11 was a piece of crap, went back to the factory twice. It still had a terrible trigger when I sold it at a huge loss to a friend.
I'll never buy another Kel-tec, I spend my money on nicer guns I won't want to get rid of.
I'll never buy another Kel-tec, I spend my money on nicer guns I won't want to get rid of.
45crittergitter
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I have experience with an early P3AT, as well as a P32 and a P11. All have run well with no breakages. They are not "slick" or "smooth," however.
eng23ine
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I have a 1st gen P3..ser# H2Bxx...and carry it EVERYDAY. It has never been F&B'd ( other than a slide melt) and has all original parts.
Pros: Very small
Very light
Alot of gun for the price
Eats anything i feed it
Lifetime warranty
100% reliable...once you learn how to hold it.
Tons of power for its size
Cons: Factory blued finish wasn't the best on mine
If you limpwrist it, it will FTE
Trigger takes some getting used to( not bad, just different)
Tons of power for its size...makes my hand hurt after several mags.
Pros: Very small
Very light
Alot of gun for the price
Eats anything i feed it
Lifetime warranty
100% reliable...once you learn how to hold it.
Tons of power for its size
Cons: Factory blued finish wasn't the best on mine
If you limpwrist it, it will FTE
Trigger takes some getting used to( not bad, just different)
Tons of power for its size...makes my hand hurt after several mags.
I have a P3at 2nd gen and a P11.Both are carried often and both are reliable.Every couple months I like to switch out my SD ammo so while at the range I shoot the rds I've been carrying and reload with fresh ones. I feel that also helps to know the gun is working fine.
Neither one of these guns are particularly fun to shoot per se and the triggers are nasty but I don't think they were designed to be a range or target gun. They were designed for up close self defense and I feel that both guns serve this purpose very well.
The P3at is really easy to conceal. Uncle Mikes pocket holster and it just disapears into a pocket.
These guns are not my favorites to shoot but they are the ones that are carried most of the time.
Neither one of these guns are particularly fun to shoot per se and the triggers are nasty but I don't think they were designed to be a range or target gun. They were designed for up close self defense and I feel that both guns serve this purpose very well.
The P3at is really easy to conceal. Uncle Mikes pocket holster and it just disapears into a pocket.
These guns are not my favorites to shoot but they are the ones that are carried most of the time.
ugaarguy
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Did Kel-Tec still fix it? The P-11 will never have a great trigger, that's inherent to the design. Trigger aside though, did Kel-Tec fix the gun and make it reliable & functional? They may let a bad gun out every now and then (all companies do), but I've never heard of Kel-Tec not making it right even if it does require a trip or two back to the factory.
The P-11 and P3AT have entirely different triggers. Regardless, like I said earlier, don't excpect great accuracy out a Kel-Tec. My P3AT shoots to minute of Coke can at 7 to 10 paces when I do my part. They're not range guns - they're deep concealment guns that weigh next to nothing, and are extremely small for their calibers/capacities - they have limitations. If you can accept those limitations though you get a gun made in the USA from a small business owned by Americans at a very reasonable price. Like everything else in life
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