Leveraging your personal appearance

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I had an experience last week...

I went to the local Mom and Pop shop to full up the Propane tank for the gas grill. I'm waiting for the kid to finish is cigarette (probably a good idea, no?). All of the sudden, a guy in a jeep gets out, slams the door, and squares off at me in a VERY aggresive pose. I have NO IDEA who this guy is, or what the $#% he wants.

I an 6', 220ish, a have a big build (not muscular per se, but not fat, just big). I simply looked at him, smiled and walked away. I could have very easily started something, cowered, etc.

I acknowlegded him, and dismissed him. Non-fearing, non-confrontational.

It has worked well in the past.
 
Yup... nice area, used to work at So Cal Gas Co in Monterey Park... a little nicer, but filled with asian gangs ;-)

What do you call a driveby in Monterey Park?

Cappucino (cap a Chino)

Bwaahahahaah :rolleyes:

:D
 
WildandihavenoideawhyAlaska
i can come up with a few guesses.... :D


i like being short and fat, but i dont call it 'fat', i call myself 'wide'. or 'tactically large'.
i have been in two fights, only one of those did i actually throw punches, but in my defense i was the drunkest i have ever been. the other fight, was with some wannabe tough guy, he hit like a girl. wasnt worth hitting back.
occasionally the drunk homeless bum will encourage me to give some spare change, but thats about it. i simply say "uncle floyd! for the last time i'm not giving your drunk arse any money! now go on home to aunt martha!"

no one messes with me either, but i think its cause they are afraid i'll sit on them if they do.

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Here are some technical articles on the processes in victim selection:

Winkel, Frans Willem, McCormack, Robert J. Victim precipitation: Some fresh evidence on nonverbally mediated perceptions of vulnerability. , Crime & Law, Vol 3(3), 1997. pp. 219-225.

Key Concepts:pedestrians with low vs medium vs high walking style
synchrony, perception of target's self-confidence & vulnerability &
robbery potential, college students
Abstract:precipitators are personal attributes enhancing a person's
likelihood of becoming criminally victimized. The present experiment
focused on walking style synchrony as a nonverbal determinant of
differential perceptions. 128 undergraduates (mean age 21.6 yrs)
were exposed to pedestrian targets in low, medium, and high walking
synchrony postures and were asked to rate each target's robbery
potential and self-confidence. Findings suggest that walking styles
associated with a lack of interactional synchrony--a lack of
organized movement, a lack of "wholeness," a lack of flowing
motion--result in higher ratings of robbery potential and in lower
ratings of perceived self-confidence of a target relative to more
synchronous walking styles. Analyses also suggest that high criminal
involvement is associated with more easily construing situations as
"opportunistic." Some implications for assertiveness and
self-defense training programs are discussed. (PsycINFO Database



Curtis, Lynn A Victim precipitation and violent crime.Social Problems, Vol. 21(4), Apr 1974. pp. 594-605. Journal

Abstract:Defines victim precipitation and estimates its incidence in
a US national sample of police reports on serious violent crime.
Provocation appears not uncommon in criminal homicide and aggravated
assault, less frequent but still empirically noteworthy in robbery,
and perhaps least relevant in forcible rape. (PsycINFO Database


Gunns, Rebekah E: Johnston, Lucy Hudson, Stephen M., Victim selection and kinematics: A point-light investigation of vulnerability to attack.Journal of Nonverbal Behavior, Vol 26(3), Fal 2002. pp.
129-158.

Abstract:Three experiments used a point-light methodology to
investigate whether movement style specifies vulnerability to
physical attack. Both female (71 18-52 yr olds; Experiment 1) and
male (50 18-42 yr olds; Experiment 2) walkers could be
differentiated according to ease-of-attack based solely on the
kinematic information provided whilst walking. Specific walking
style features predicted ease-of-attack and profiles of
prototypically "easy to attack" and "difficult to attack" walkers
were identified. Variations in walking style as a function of
clothing and footwear style were also shown to predict differences
in ease-of-attack ratings (30 20-29 yr old females; Experiment 3).
Theoretical and practical implications of these findings are
considered. (PsycINFO Database Record (c) 2002 APA, all rights
reserved)


Graney, Dawn Jenee Power serial rapists and female victim-selection: A conceptual
typological model.: Dissertation Abstracts International: Section B: The Sciences
& Engineering, Vol 63(2-B), Aug 2002. pp. 1026.

Key Concepts:power serial rapists; female victim selection typology
Abstract:This study examined existing literature for purposes of
creating a conceptual victim selection typological model for the
power serial rapist. Research from both the fields of rape and
victimology was utilized to gain insight into the concept of victim
selection and to aid in the understanding of the power serial
rapist. Several rapist typologies were reviewed and Groth, Burgess,
and Holstrom's (1977) rapist typology, which included the power
rapist, was selected for purposes of creating the victim selection
typological model. Research was also presented regarding personal
and behavioral characteristics commonly associated with the power
serial rapist and his offenses. Existing victimization models were
reviewed to determine how victimization has been conceptualized in
the past. Groth et al.'s typology and each of the victimization
models discussed were then critiqued on the basis of their
contribution to the understanding of victim selection techniques of
the power serial rapist. The information gleaned from the critiques,
and from the rape and victimology literature, was used in the
development the Power Serial Rapist Victim Selection Typological
Model, which is arguably more comprehensive and encompassing than
previously existing victimization models. Additionally, it is argued
that this model is unique in that it is crime specific and addresses
victim selection. The previously existing victimization models and
the Power Serial Rapist Victim Selection Typological Model were
compared and contrasted based on the application of the case of
Gilbert Escobedo, a real life serial rapist. The case application
supported the notion that the typological model that resulted from
this study offered greater utility in understanding victim selection
techniques of the power serial rapist. Given the findings,
implications for the use of the typological model in the areas of
applied psychology, criminal justice, and public policy were
discussed


Stevens, Dennis J Predatory rapists and victim selection techniques.Social Science Journal, Vol 31(4), 1994. pp. 421-433

Abstract:Examines the self-reported target techniques of 61 sexual
offenders incarcerated in a maximum custody prison. Respondents were
interviewed using a methodology employing other convicted felons as
interviewers. Ss admitted at least 310 predatory rapes, averaging
5.2 rapes per S. Data support a rational choice perspective
revealing predatory rapists as decision makers since they search for
vulnerable prey in various social landscapes and attack women they
believe could not or would not resist attack. Another factor related
to the decision-making process is opportunity obtained through
circumstance or manipulation. Predatory rapists are not deterred by
serving time in prison as they learn refined methods of target
selection from other inmates. In light of these findings, research
is needed to curb fallacies leading to victim vulnerability.

:Richards, Lynne A theoretical analysis of nonverbal communication and victim selection for sexual assault.Clothing & Textiles Research Journal, Vol 9(4), Sum 1991. pp. 55-64.
Abstract:Explains the nonverbal communication process using
propositions associated with theories of self-enhancement,
communication, perception, and impression formation and uses this
perspective to analyze sexual victimization research. This
perspective suggests that stereotyped sex-role socialization is a
key factor in male and female contributions to the nonverbal process
of victim selection. Findings have implications for the shaping of
gender role identity and the development of successful assault
prevention programs.


Kirkendall, Allan R Victim selection processes involved in rape.Dissertation Abstracts International, Vol 41(4-B), Oct 1980. pp. 1567.

Lejeune, Robert The management of a mugging. Urban Life, Vol 6(2), Jul 1977. pp. 123-148.

Abstract:Interviewed 45 muggers to ascertain their definitions of
the offense. The respondents reported various strategies to control
their own fears and to "normalize" the situation. Strategies
included the selection of victims, threatening postures, and the use
of force.
 
ROFLMAO @ Sawdust. I am doing great how bout you? Will I see you at lvl II shot gun?



I didnt even think about posting a pic. This is me with my bestfriends wife at a club. I am on the left.



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My size alone (6'8" 325 lbs.) tends to deter looks from the dregs of society. Couple that with a short haircut (I cut my own hair with a pair of clippers and a #2 blade) and not being afraid to look someone in the eye and I don't have much trouble.

My style of dress varies widely from khaki BDU's/jeans, polo's and polished "jack" :neener: -boots in the winter to shorts and short sleeve buttondowns with athletic shoes or slides in the summer.

Funny thing about my size though, complete strangers have no qualms about asking how tall I am(irritating), and little kids are fascinated, sometime to their parent's embarassment. I have gotten used to it, as I have been this size since I was 13. I also get asked to get things off the top shelf at Wal-Mart by little old ladies.

When I was in college, I was at a party and a rather well endowed young lady asked me how tall I was. Seeing as how I had already been asked that a few times that night and I had already done my part to float the keg, I responded that I would tell her how tall I was if she would tell me how big her umm, assets were. We both 'fessed up and a good time was had by all.

W
 
"It's very funny how relative 'bad areas' are."

That's the truth. I was in a casino in New Orleans one night when they made an announcement not to go out a particular door because of the crowd of people loitering and harrassing the tourists. I got the feeling there were teams of pickpockets(or worse) working, but I didn't verify it. Well that was the direction I needed to go to meet my friends at midnight, so I asked the security guard at the door how bad it really was and added that I had grown up in Baltimore and D.C.

He smiled, held the door open for me and said "Have a nice evening."

John
 
Wilhelm sez:

ROFLMAO @ Sawdust.

Hmmmm...alot of people seem to do that.:eek:

I am doing great how bout you? Will I see you at lvl II shot gun?

I'm cool...but extremely tired. Son Number Two will arrive next week, so I've been working my a$$ off building some furniture and doing some house remodeling.

No, I won't make it to the Lvl II, as I intend to be at Lvl I Handgun; if I did both, I would be gone four Sundays in a row...and that, I dadgumguarentee you, would *not* go over well with SWMBO merely two months after childbirth.:uhoh: :scrutiny:

Dig the pic...dude.:D

Sawdust
 
bwahaha, pic posting time! The sword right behind my head is a 6' claedhemore and it's mounted a good foot+ off the ground..kind makes me look short..probably should have included some perspective in the pic.

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Re:

Ever attentive, back to the wall, end seat, look ya in the eye, Mr. Any man...pretty low keyed, and quiet, learned long ago that quickly defusing and backing down without bowing down is the way to go. I won't go to rock and roll level unless me or mine are threatened in same way.
Had an incident on the road yesterday that really cranked me up.....let's just say ....I hate those so called master race types and leave it alone...
Be safe....Be smart...stay frosty.....mack....

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Holy moly. I think I might be related to some of you guys.

6'5" 310. 56" chest. 40" waist. 18" arms. 20" neck. Shaved head. (going bald anyway). Goatee. Squinty eyes. I look kind of like a younger version of Tony Soprano.

But I'm not alone. Looking at some of the other pics on this thread. I would mosh with you guys anytime. :D

I have never had a problem with anybody looking for trouble. I'm a master of the angry scowl. I've been bugged by panhandlers, but who isn't.

I did have one instance that I wanted to share where I changed my persona to avoid a confrontation. My wife and I (girlfriend at the time) were driving and had an engine problem and had to pull over. We parked at a convenience store. It was in a crappy part of town. Nothing compared to innercity Birmingham, but in the worst part of Salt Lake. (which is not very bad at all, unless you are broke down at 1:00 AM).

While I was fiddling with the engine to no avail, I decided to use the payphone to call my Dad, who is an excellent mechanic. While I was speaking with him and diagnosing the problem, a car containing six "disadvantaged youth" pulled into the lot. They got out of the car, and I noticed them checking me and my wife out. It was a very predatory look, giving me a very bad feeling, if you know what I mean.

So while the Pride of Aztlan was checking us out, I decided to not look like such an easy target. My Dad had already hung up, so I screamed into the phone that "Mother**** better get my **** **** *** money!" Then I slammed the phone down repeatedly, kicked the crap out of the phone stall, turned and kicked the bumper of my car a bunch of times while yelling and cursing. I tried to look extra angry.

So then I got back into the car. My wife told me that it was a very impressive performance. :) The youths decided to buy their beer and go. This was before I carried, but I did have a Bushmaster in the back seat. Eventually a guy that I thought was a pimp helped me fix the car and we got home. :)
 
I am plaenty big and need to get a little more unbig but the problem I have is God graced me with a toal "baby face" and although I am 39 I look like I am 25 and harmless which has gottem me in some ???? in the past

10 years ago when I was biodybulding and was 5'11, 225 and pre show peoepl wouldnt even notice my face, lol...i am workign on gettign back to that stage
 
6'5" 310. 56" chest. 40" waist. 18" arms. 20" neck. Shaved head. (going bald anyway). Goatee. Squinty eyes. I look kind of like a younger version of Tony Soprano.

Dude yoo just a big ol slanty eye baldy goon. Yoo got beer belly too? Ya! Dont scare me! Me, I come up to you and jiggle my juicy man boobs and when yoo distracted I take out my NAA prissy pocket pistol and shoot yoo in the foot. Then when yoo hopping around like an epileptic kangaroo and bellowing like an elephant seal in the rut, I take out my ninja stick and beat you till yoo head look like a road map of So Cal. Yoo doan even get a chance to pull out that silly tacticlized gun. Not afraid o nobodies look except that Birgit Nillson guy wit all dem axes and suchlike. Now he scary!eeeeeeeeeeeeeeyahhhhhhh...................banzaaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
:neener:

Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa,............urp

WildsorrylosingitintheheatAlaska
 
I have come to believe there are two ways to keep from looking like a walking cheeseburger to the dirtbags out there. The first is to look like what Col Cooper describes as a "coper", someone who can handle himself. The second is to look like another dirtbag.

Until recently I looked like an extra in a bad biker movie. Long hair in a pony tail lots of black leather the works. Combine that with a medium build and the fact that I am not afraid to look people in the eyes when I talk to them and I guess I was a pretty intimidating dude. And for the most part I was left alone.

I have since gotten a job that forces me to adopt a more socially acceptable appearance. I am going to have to work on my image a little so I look more like someone who can cope with life and what it throws at me instead of the dirtbag camouflage I wore so successfully in the past.

The worst part is I am actually going to have to develop a fashion sense. The horror....
 
I'm 5'3" "Tall". I'm down to 155lbs, mostly due to agressive cycling training. I don't have size on my side, even if I was bigger weight-wise, I'd just look like a butterball turkey (trust me).
I walk tall, however. Square my shoulders, look up and ahead of me, not at the ground. I make eye contact, but avoid staring people down. I don't have too many problems.

I need to put in some upperbody workout time, although I've always had problems putting on defined upperbody muscle....my legs are cut nicely, though :neener:
 
"A superior gunman is best defined as one who uses his superior judgment in order to keep himself out of situations that would require the use of his superior skills."


HEY! they stole this line from us pilots. replace the word "gunman" with "pilot" and its as old as the hills.

anyway. i have a hard time looking menacing. i'm tall and skinny, but in shape. i dress casually, don't try to look tough, becuase that would jsut make me look silly, and use eye contact judiciously. thats the best way to ward off undesirables if you ask me. make eye contact, don't look away until they do, and you have "won" the intitial psychological "battle". i've never had a problem using this method. i also agree with the first post of polite, but not friendly.

i also live and work near a couple military bases and am often mistaken for a member of the military due to my young age and short hair. i just keep the hair short because its low maintenence. it works to my advantage sometimes though. i most certainly don't wear NRA or any other firearms related clothing. i just try to "blend" and not be noticed in the first place.

Bobby
 
HEY! they stole this line from us pilots. replace the word "gunman" with "pilot" and its as old as the hills.
I don't know about that, them thar aircraft are only 100 years old! :scrutiny:
 
Keeripes, some of you guys look like some BAMFs. I'm guessing a lot of you don't have to worry about confrontations...

I look pretty nondescript for the most part. I weight lift a lot, and used to catch a lot of grief about it from co-workers, so I started dressing in baggier clothes. So now unless you "get up on me" so to speak, you really won't notice. I'm like 5'10" and 200 lbs. Here's a typical look for me:

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Jayman: the look works.. perhaps a short mohawk would finish you off ;-)

funny thing, I used to had long hair..pony tail down my back.. wife left me and I figured I'd go back to where I was before I met her... so mohawk again... Boss thinks it looks more conservative than the long hair.. go figure...

Probably just humouring me, cause they need me ;-)
 
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