Limp wristing...how much of a concern.

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This guy runs a test with as weak a wrist as you can get. Glock fails but who would shoot this way? Does this concern you. I've had a few FTF's with several different guns but I never knew whether a limp wrist might have been to blame...or some other issue. I've had a few guns that have never FTF'd. Those are the ones I really trust. If I could make them fail with this test I doubt I'd trust them less.

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yup

IMO the most over used term for putting the blame anywhere else but on the firearm itself. To me (and this is just my opinion_) if a gun is more prone to limping than another, then there is soemthing wrong in the design. We all want ultra lite guns and this is usually when it happens the most. There has to be some mass in the slide for things to work right. So again IMO when you buy that ultra lite, smallest handgun in the world, be aware that you are inviting Mr. Limply to show up more often than one with alittle more mass and alittle more grip area. The kt minis guns rate high in the limping sceanaro. Is it to lite??Is it to small? I owned 3 of them and never had an issue with limping. Most don't know when they are even limping a gun. The next question to is, Am I limping it, or is the gun defective. Let another person shoot it, if he shoots it with zero issues, yup, its ur fault. Peddle it and get something bigger and alittle heavier.
 
Limp wristing...how much of a concern.
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I don't know many that hold a firearm in such a loose manner, and yet jams do occur. Certain individuals advocate a "white knuckler" grip, like M. Ayoob, but for other reasons.
Personally, don't fret over it....You're using a tool, so handle it well....:)
 
Probably a cause of some pistols to have problems some time. I'd be more concerned about accuracy from limp-wristing than pistol problems. I haven't shot on e, held very loosely, that's failed, so I tend to put limp wrist low on the probable cause of failures.
 
when I shoot off of a rest/sandbags I tend to limp wrist pistols.habit of shooting target revolvers,where a tight grip isn't really needed.don't do it off hand,just off the rest. jwr
 
Follow up shots are beyond a challenge with limp wristing. As stated above, MANY an autoloader are plagued by malfuctions as a result of limp wristing. IMO, grip and stance provide the foundation for good shooting applications.
 
I do think the phenomenon exists, but I will not accept it as an excuse for a poorly functioning gun, nor will I own a handgun that must be held in a perfect grasp to function. There are any number of reasons why you might not be able to do so (e.g., being already injured).
 
I will not accept it as an excuse for a poorly functioning gun, nor will I own a handgun that must be held in a perfect grasp to function.
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Every sport has proper methods for operating its equipment. If you "break your wrist" when bowling or golfing of playing tennis do you blame the bowling ball, the tennis racket or the golf club as being defective because you are not successful?
 
I limp-wristed the first round of .45 I ever shot -- out of a Kimber, compact 1911. I got a better grip and shot 4 more rounds without incident. But since 1911's fit my hand badly and direct their force against the ball joint at the base of my thumb I suspect that I would limp-wrist them fairly often as the pain of firing increased. I probably would not have limp-wristed even one in a gun with a better grip-fit for my hands.

You can't blame a drill for making the holes at weird angles if you're not holding it firmly in the correct position. You can't blame a compact semi-auto for malfuctioning if you're not gripping it correctly.
 
do you blame the bowling ball, the tennis racket or the golf club as being defective because you are not successful?
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Not really Steve, but we are talking about the "laws of Physics". I state my case in Newton's laws and space experimentation....The example is always used about another person firing the same weapon achieving different results. However, all that proves is that another set of variables so precariously inherent in the pistol components worked favorably that time around. IMHO:)
 
Glocks seem to be more prone failing when limp-wristing than almost any other handgun in my experience. That said, if you aren't limp-wristing, it's probably the handgun most likely to go bang. Besides, if you are limp-wristing you obviously need more practice, there's no way you can be the most accurate while limp-wristing.
 
I've never had a problem in a steel frame pistol but in polymer framed pistols i've had a few limp wristing problems. With polymer framed pistols you really have to give that slide something hard to hit. You have to "manage" the recoil a little better. Personally that's why i STILL prefer steel frames. I don't want the matter of how i'm holding the gun to be an issue when i'm defending my or my familys life.
 
Relative motion of the slide and the frame needs to happen for a reciprocating-slide autopistol to run. The tradeoff for decreased frame mass is that it needs some external force on the frame to allow it to push against the recoil spring. There are interactions between recoil spring strength and ammunition "power" and those two parameters can be changed in many cases to increase or decrease the likelyhood of insufficient relative motion.
 
not much. you have to be barely ( like, 2 fingers on the gun and scratching a lottery ticket) holding onto a modern arm to limp wrist
 
Of all the guns I owned the G22 3rd gen seem to be weak hold sensitive. If deliberately I held them loose the gun would malf at least 3x per magazine. However, I grip it properly it run just fine. But I ended up selling the gun anyway. I figured if I'm in a gun fight and I'm wounded or something and can't hold the pistol properly the gun might malf the same. That G22 was my first and only polymer pistol I'm now planning to get the M&P to complement my steel 1911s.
 
If a gun can't function with me barely holding it, it's gone! I have 5 that seem to be immune, a .25, two 9mm's, a .40, and a .45. All are rock solid reliable and don't care how I hold them. One of them did need several hundred rounds through it to get broken in, but the rest all worked perfectly from day one.
 
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