Balog
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I don't have audio, so I have no idea what the sound is like on this.
http://myweb.cableone.net/jlflanagan/lion.wmv
http://myweb.cableone.net/jlflanagan/lion.wmv
Lion hunting video
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Robertesq1
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The sound makes it even better. If your heart isn't pumping watching this one you're dead!
Preacherman
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Yep, that's what they're like - and that one wasn't moving at the highest possible speed, either. Lion have been measured covering 100 yards from a lying-down start in 3.2 seconds, IIRC!
Notice how the parties in the background dive to the ground when the lion comes between them and the PH. SMARRRRRRT! 
Looks like 5 solid hits to down him, plus the coup de grace by the client, who has to be congratulated for immediately jumping back up and doing what needed doing after having gotten knocked down by a wounded lion.
Looks like 5 solid hits to down him, plus the coup de grace by the client, who has to be congratulated for immediately jumping back up and doing what needed doing after having gotten knocked down by a wounded lion.
Sunray
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"...almost hard not to root for the lion..." I was. It appears that these plugs can't shoot. If the twit had made a proper shot in the first place it wouldn't have been necessary to shoot and miss that many times. Incompetence is no excuse. Pucker factor of about 9.5 though.
Johnny Guest
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Thrilling!
Couple of other things noted:
While the camera stayed on the lion after the initial shot, I heard client cycle the bolt IMMEDIATELY.
Wonder what kind of rifles were being used. When client made the parting shot, it seemed as if his rifle didn't raise much in recoil.
I think I counted eight shots after the first one. Backup Is A GOOD Thing.
Best,
Johnny
Couple of other things noted:
While the camera stayed on the lion after the initial shot, I heard client cycle the bolt IMMEDIATELY.
Wonder what kind of rifles were being used. When client made the parting shot, it seemed as if his rifle didn't raise much in recoil.
I think I counted eight shots after the first one. Backup Is A GOOD Thing.
Best,
Johnny
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Anybody here want to use a light rifle for dangerous game?
How about a shotgun loaded with buckshot?
And that was just a lion one of the lightest boned and skined animals in the dangerous game catagory.
Funny thing about that though. You'll see certian hunting videos and one maker in particular who will "play" with wounded buffalo and induce them to charge on film. You'll see that same guy goad hippos into a charge for the camera. But you'll never see anybody play with a lion on purpose. They are just bad news when wounded.
That would have been a great place for a big bore double.
Did you notice the PH dropped to a knee when the lion came? That's an old technique to make it easier to hit a frontal charging animal. It takes the angle out of the shot so you don't have to hold in front of the animals nose to get a head shot. It works great on shorter animals that you have to angle down to shoot at.
The history on that video if it's the one that I've heard of is that lion is a park cat and a trouble maker who needed to be culled. Does anyone here have anymore info to back that up?
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The clients first shot looked right on to me, a raking shot behind the on shoulder probably exiting forward of the off shoulder. Welcome to African dangerous game hunting. They don't usually die when they're supposed to.
How about a shotgun loaded with buckshot?
And that was just a lion one of the lightest boned and skined animals in the dangerous game catagory.
Funny thing about that though. You'll see certian hunting videos and one maker in particular who will "play" with wounded buffalo and induce them to charge on film. You'll see that same guy goad hippos into a charge for the camera. But you'll never see anybody play with a lion on purpose. They are just bad news when wounded.
That would have been a great place for a big bore double.
Did you notice the PH dropped to a knee when the lion came? That's an old technique to make it easier to hit a frontal charging animal. It takes the angle out of the shot so you don't have to hold in front of the animals nose to get a head shot. It works great on shorter animals that you have to angle down to shoot at.
The history on that video if it's the one that I've heard of is that lion is a park cat and a trouble maker who needed to be culled. Does anyone here have anymore info to back that up?
P.S.
The clients first shot looked right on to me, a raking shot behind the on shoulder probably exiting forward of the off shoulder. Welcome to African dangerous game hunting. They don't usually die when they're supposed to.
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WOW!
Talk about close. You guys note the second shot after the lion passed? Amazing no one got hit.
Still... WOW!
Talk about close. You guys note the second shot after the lion passed? Amazing no one got hit.
Still... WOW!
Bruz
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Hmmm, any experts out there that can explain to me why the Lion did not maul them? If I did not know better it was as though the one guy just "threw" the Lion off of him!? I had thought it died as it was about to attack but when it got up and ran away I was shocked. It's mouth opened as if it was going to bite, one round house with it's paw would of stopped the high five the hunters gave at the end. Weird, I can't explain it...ya see the size of that Lion next to the hunter!?
If I did not know better it was as though the one guy just "threw" the Lion off of him!? I had thought it died as it was about to attack but when it got up and ran away I was shocked. It's mouth opened as if it was going to bite, one round house with it's paw would of stopped the high five the hunters gave at the end. Weird, I can't explain it...ya see the size of that Lion next to the hunter!?
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Well I can take a stab at it. First off that was one seriously sick cat from the first shot. You can tell that by the slow speed at which he charged.
2. He took a pretty good short range wallop right before he jumped causing him to miss his mark (the client) that shot rang his bell pretty good. Also in slow motion you can tell that cat is starting to loose body function by the way he's dragging his rear end on the jump.
3. After he missed his mark he did a face plant and it looks like he took a couple of more wallops as he collected up further dazing him.
4. He decided to get the heck out of there after missing his charge. Maybe he was embarassed I don't know? You'll have to ask a charging lion some day.
In a word they got lucky...........
2. He took a pretty good short range wallop right before he jumped causing him to miss his mark (the client) that shot rang his bell pretty good. Also in slow motion you can tell that cat is starting to loose body function by the way he's dragging his rear end on the jump.
3. After he missed his mark he did a face plant and it looks like he took a couple of more wallops as he collected up further dazing him.
4. He decided to get the heck out of there after missing his charge. Maybe he was embarassed I don't know? You'll have to ask a charging lion some day.
In a word they got lucky...........
Robertesq1
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Bruz said
"Hmmm, any experts out there that can explain to me why the Lion did not maul them? If I did not know better it was as though the one guy just "threw" the Lion off of him!? I had thought it died as it was about to attack but when it got up and ran away I was shocked. It's mouth opened as if it was going to bite, one round house with it's paw would of stopped the high five the hunters gave at the end. Weird, I can't explain it...ya see the size of that Lion next to the hunter!? "
Near as I can make out the last shot when he was about 6 feet away was the money shot. Looks like it struck the lion in the face/jaw and probably did an increadible amount of damage to the face and internally as well. That shot took the fight right out of him and The lion's mouth looks oddly open and gaping afterwards. After that shot he falls over himself and goes from a fight to a flight pattern running away and ignoring the easy targets within his reach. If that shot had missed, there would have been some serious trouble with a rampaging lion and all those big guns.
"Hmmm, any experts out there that can explain to me why the Lion did not maul them? If I did not know better it was as though the one guy just "threw" the Lion off of him!? I had thought it died as it was about to attack but when it got up and ran away I was shocked. It's mouth opened as if it was going to bite, one round house with it's paw would of stopped the high five the hunters gave at the end. Weird, I can't explain it...ya see the size of that Lion next to the hunter!? "
Near as I can make out the last shot when he was about 6 feet away was the money shot. Looks like it struck the lion in the face/jaw and probably did an increadible amount of damage to the face and internally as well. That shot took the fight right out of him and The lion's mouth looks oddly open and gaping afterwards. After that shot he falls over himself and goes from a fight to a flight pattern running away and ignoring the easy targets within his reach. If that shot had missed, there would have been some serious trouble with a rampaging lion and all those big guns.
As he passed the client and the PH, a slew of shots were fired as the lion landed and regathered himself. Did the PH ever fire that big handgun in the shoulder holster? I count at least 4 shots he fired, which would about have him run dry, I would think, at the last shot.
Client, assuming he was topped off when the charge came, may have had one more shot left after the coup de grace.
Note that the PH got a good solid hit on the lion as it passed behind the tree, causing it to miss a step. Both got off a last second shot at about 10 feet.
Client, assuming he was topped off when the charge came, may have had one more shot left after the coup de grace.
Note that the PH got a good solid hit on the lion as it passed behind the tree, causing it to miss a step. Both got off a last second shot at about 10 feet.
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Generally speaking the only reason these guys carry a hand gun is if in case they get their rifles knocked out of there hands and are pinned down by some creaturous horribles eatinness manerous. I wouldn't think in that situation that a hand gun would have done anyone much good. Considering that the lion was soaking up heavy caliber bullets like they were pellets from a daisy .177. Amazing what a little adrenilan will do for a lion.huh?
HankB
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Wonder if they were using "solids" . . . most PH's keep their guns stoked with solids in case they have to sort out a wounded buff or elephant or something. Solids - even from large calibers - aren't optimum for lion.
(On the other hand, didn't some idiot file suit against Federal because one of their softs didn't stop a lion instantly, either, and he got chewed up a bit?)
(On the other hand, didn't some idiot file suit against Federal because one of their softs didn't stop a lion instantly, either, and he got chewed up a bit?)
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It's pretty much a universal PH technique to use softs on Lion. It's just one of those things untill you've seen it you can't believe how tough African game can be when it gets pumped up.
I have personally put 12 500gr .458 lotts into a buffalo all but two went through the chest area. But I never hit solid bone. I just nicked the front shoulder bone on the first shot with a woodliegh soft and the rest were solids. And 20 minutes latter he still had the stuff to get up and make a last stand.
If you want to stop a charging animal you have to hit big bone and perferably skull or spine.
I have personally put 12 500gr .458 lotts into a buffalo all but two went through the chest area. But I never hit solid bone. I just nicked the front shoulder bone on the first shot with a woodliegh soft and the rest were solids. And 20 minutes latter he still had the stuff to get up and make a last stand.
If you want to stop a charging animal you have to hit big bone and perferably skull or spine.
Kamicosmos
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Just saw this over at arfcom.
They're debating whether or not it's a caged hunt, or a zoo lion.
But still. Pissed off lion coming after me looking for a bit of payback? Scary stuff!!
Anyone ever read Death in the Long Grass? Lots of stories about all kinds of Big Game doing nasty stuff to hunters and others. Very good book. Reads like a Horror Story, 'cept it's all true.
They're debating whether or not it's a caged hunt, or a zoo lion.
But still. Pissed off lion coming after me looking for a bit of payback? Scary stuff!!
Anyone ever read Death in the Long Grass? Lots of stories about all kinds of Big Game doing nasty stuff to hunters and others. Very good book. Reads like a Horror Story, 'cept it's all true.
nico
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meh, i'm not a big fan of killing an animal just for the heck of it (ie: not for food, population control, etc.), but that is a pretty interresting video, and if what H&H said about the situation is true I don't have a problem with it. Why wouldn't anyone in the group have had a semi-auto? Once the lion charged, I would think a .338win mag BAR would have been nice to have, or is that not powerful enough for a lion?
Art Eatman
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Some third-hand physiology: Once an animal is wounded by the first shot, the effect of second and third shots is much less than that of the original. Thus, with dangerous game, cartridges/bullets which can break bone become far more important. Adrenalin has overcome the shock effect of the original, non-instantaneous-stop hit, and the only way to stop the animal is via the incapacitation of broken bones.
Now, all the above is from reading, okay? I guess I have some verification from stories of bad hits on whitetails, wherein there are parallels. All this is why I prefer to take a neck shot whenever possible. Nothing survives a broken spine.
Art
Now, all the above is from reading, okay? I guess I have some verification from stories of bad hits on whitetails, wherein there are parallels. All this is why I prefer to take a neck shot whenever possible. Nothing survives a broken spine.
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