Lion hunting video

[Guyon]

If this wasn't a canned hunt, and was indeed the Real Deal, I'd probably be up for some high fives just for having survived--after I changed undies!

And frankly, I bet if you had a lion miss you that close you would celibrate coming out alive too.

Maybe you're both right.

Thing is, I grew up on a farm and learned early on to stay away from dangerous animals. Uhm...that's why they call them "dangerous."

I hear groundhogs can be vicious when cornered. I wonder... do they taste like chicken? asianthug?

 

[50 Freak]

I was rooting for the lion.

 

[Dr.Rob]

If this was canned they'd be pretty stupid to put the contact info on the end of the Tape...

H&H you ever hear of this outfit? They book out of Colorado.

 

[Beav]

If this was canned they'd be pretty stupid to put the contact info on the end of the Tape...

Are canned hunts illegal in Africa? I understand that this took place in Africa?

I personally have nothing against hunting. I personally think of hunting as a means of either protecting or providing.

 

[Browns Fan]

I'm with H&Hhunter on this one, this guy is lucky to come out of it alive and you bust his chops?

 

[H&Hhunter]

Dr Rob

No I've never heard of that booking agencey.

 

[son of a gun]

May be it was suppose to be one of those cheesy Kit Kat commercials from the 70's that went not as planned.

 

[Kharn]

I'd like to believe that was a problem lion, as others have suggested, rather than a canned hunt, but its still a very good lesson on why you should always have a backup plan.

If that had been me in the video, I would have been hugging everyone in sight and saying "The drinks are on me" and "anyone seen my spare boxers?" until the shock wore off.

Kharn

 

[Azrael256]

Jeez, this video made me go hug my half-siamese and my turkish van. I hate seeing a predator get killed. Really, I hate seeing any animal get killed, but one that I'm planning on eating doesn't bother me too much... after all, I have sharp teeth for a reason... but not a predator. I know they'll destroy livestock, and thus my food supply, so I wouldn't stop anyone from culling a problem lion, but why do people have to film this stuff?

 

[Kharn]

but why do people have to film this stuff?

So the insurance company can tell the widow that her former husband's policy doesnt include 'Suicide-by-lion,' should it come to that.

Kharn

 

[Henry]

I wonder if the price of this lion hunt includes sending this guys underwears to the laundry.

 

[birddog]

C'mon

"The lion never had the chance to defend itself. Some of you real hunters out there probably notice that the lion look very scare prior to being shot. It has the of the behavior and charateristic of a golden retriever. This lion is no more than a big house cat, raised to be shoot down for rich people with no respect for life, guns, and any sport."

Now...I am relatively new to this board, not terribly new, but relatively new, but I have to say, I am am kind of surprised at the negative, anti-hunting response here. Unlike many people, I DO think that gun-rights and hunting-rights go hand in hand and that this house divided against itself will fall, not to be too melodramatic about it.

Golden retriever? House cat? Please.

If that was a canned hunt? Sure, shame on them.

If it wasn't? WOW! What an awazing display of lion-power, and what a great display of good shooting (those of you who say it was bad shooting, I'd like to see you do better -- that first shot knocked the lion off his feet) under tremendous pressure as that lion charged.

If some of my hunts had been videoed, some would look ridiculously easy, with the deer/bear standing there, and presumably just "begging to be shot". On the other hand, if that video showed the long hours of scouting and preparation that led to that one "easy moment", you'd be surprised at what was involved in getting there.

Give the trophy hunters a break, gentlemen and ladies. I consider myself a hunter who eats what he kills, but if an 8 and a 6 point buck were in front of me (this bow season!), I take the 8 pointer. Am I a trophy hunter? Okay, maybe I am. But I don't care any less about the game I pursue, or spend any less money that equates back to management and habitat improvement through license fees.

I am just a little touchy, after receiving an e-mail death threat against me and ,my family, naming the road I live on, when my first hunting book came out...Some pacifists! Don't give the antis any more ammo against us.

The animals deserve respect and clean kills where possible, but folks, c'mon.

 

[Art Eatman]

A belated "Welcome!", birddog. I think you'll find that THR folks would be against canned hunts, but otherwise find hunting to be a wonderful activity.

Tell us more about your book?

, Art

 

[birddog]

Thanks

Art, thanks for the welcome!

My two books are : Season of Obsession, and Thursday's Bird: Hunting Wild Pheasants in a Vanishing Upland, both copyright Joel Spring (that's me) and published by Safari Press (who publishes many many many book on Africana and Lion Hunting, incidentally, lol)

Both books are available at Barnesandnoble.com, Amazon.com, and Safaripress.com.

Better yet, bug your local bookstore into getting you a copy to show them they should be carrying more hunting and shooting books!

I also write frequently for Deer & Deer Hunting magazine, and have had stints with North American Whitetail, Sports Afield, Bass Pro Shops Outdoor World, and several others.

Thanks for asking!

Joel

 

[H&Hhunter]

Birddog,

Thank you for posting. I am also amazed at not only the anti hunting posts on this thread. But some of the quotes I've read are directly from the anti- hunters play book.

It means one of two things to me.

1. We have some PETA moles on board which doesn't really bother me as it's to be expected. No big deal.

2. And this is far more frightening. The Anti message has been repeated in the popular press so often that otherwise normal people are becoming indoctrinated to the anti message.

Some of the posts on this thread indicate to me that we as hunters have a limited time left in this country. If in fact these were other "hunters" who made these posts.

I wish the Lion would have got him. Wimpy guys with guns shooting beautiful animals to prove they have big weenies.

This one in particular from Dave 3006 is disturbing to me. This is directly from the mouth of a radical anti hunter. Wether he was just trying to be PC or not that's the message he's spewing.

If these are the types of posts we can expect every time some one posts pictures from Africa I think I'll take my pictures and threads elsewhere.

 

[birddog]

H & H

Thanks H & H.

I've enjoyed reading your posts on this thread and others during my months of lurking. I agree that it's far more disturbing that true gun-owners are posting negatively about hunters. I expect it from PETA moles (my horrendously misspelled death threat came from a purported "PETA" member, lol) but not from people who care about the RKBA.

It's depressing.

I even get grief over bear hunting from some of my deer hunting friends. Though I believe in the 1st Ammendment as much as the 2nd, I do try to change their minds at every given opportunity. Perception is 99.9% of the problem. I'd encourage any of the real gun-owners who have dissed those lion hunters to pick up a book by Capstick, or Ruark, or better yet read The Maneaters of Tsavo. This may help disuade some of the ideals that have seeped in from The Lion King and other such utter crap.

But don't let the anti hunters (be they 2nd Ammendment guys or not) prevent you from voicing your opinion, either.

And let's see some of those African pics!

Joel

 

[HABU]

I took my son to the Sportsman's Show today. One of the booths had this video playing and it drew quite a crowd. I struck up a conversation with the guy and he let me in on some of the background on this hunt. It seems that the lion had broke into their fenced encampment, killing a guide and a horse. The client paid 25K for the cat, it ain't cheap hunting Africa. He said that they hit the lion 5 times out of 16 shots. Maybe they were former LEO. Notice the clients binoculars flying around his neck as the lion goes by, now THAT is close.

The link to the video in this thread is dead and I can't find a copy on the web.

 

[HABU]

I have heard that the video came from an orginization I am investigating getting involved with. It seems that the "client" was pissed off that the video got leaked. Perhaps thats why I cannot find a link to the video anywhere. If I was the goober in the video, I wouldnt want the world seeing me miss either.

 

[HABU]

OK, I have found another link to the video. I am not sure, but it may have slightly more content. I have it saved, but I doubt that this video is ever gonna leave the net. Check it out here .

 

[Robertesq1]

That's the video.

 

[Grayrock]

This is from The Arizona Sportsman's Journal : http://www.azuho.com/boards/ubb-get_topic-f-8-t-000183.html

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posted January 16, 2004 07:07 PM
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A couple of tid bits about that lion video:
The lion had killed several people before the professional hunters were called in. It had been trapped and moved to a lion-only preserve where it was killing every lion it came in contact with. Then it was moved to another area where it dug out from to where these guys where called in to take it out.

The hunter from Corpus Christi was not new to hunting by any means. His first shot was a broadside shot that should have easily killed this. I don't remember the caliber he was shooting but it is illegal to shoot under something like .375 down there in South Africa at dangerous game. The P.H. had a double rifle H&H and by the time the lion swatted the client down it had 3 bullets in him.

The hunter told me the story before I saw the pictures and I blew him off as smoking something. Then I saw the clips on the South African's brochure. I went down and hunted plains game with them in June, and have a new respect for African game.

 

[Leaky Waders]

All I can say is Wow!

I have no problem w/ the video. I do wonder what caliber and types of guns everyone was using.

The professional hunter's rifle makes an obvious roar when it fires...the rest of the parties' seem not too. It could be just lighting or something.

Also, I don't mind the high fives...I imagine few people have survived a lion counting coup on them.

I thought they handled the situation quite well actually, all with rifles most of holding their ground.

My two cents,

L.W.

 

[Grayrock]

Is it usual for dangerous game to take that many hits?

 

[H&Hhunter]

Is it usual for dangerous game to take that many hits?

Grayrock,

I have personally killed a cape buffalo that took twelve (12) 500gr woodlieghs from a .458 Lott before he went to valhalla. And the last one was in the brain as he tried to rise for one more go at less than 10 yards.

10 rounds had made it to the thoracic region from various angles one was in the cheek and neck muscle and the other in the brain.

My first shot took the buff a little far forward hitting the on shoulder but not comletely breaking it and getting both lungs. He should have been dead but no one told him that...

I've also seen dangerous game flop over on one shot from a .375 behind the shoulder but that is what makes dangerous game so damn dangerous. You never know what you're going to get when you pull that trigger.

The P.H. had a double rifle H&H and by the time the lion swatted the client down it had 3 bullets in him.

This quote from the Arizona sportsman journal is incorrect. The PH obviously did not have a double! He was shooting a bolt gun which is very clearly seen in the video.

Also if the lion was in fact a known man killer it would not have been moved it would have been destroyed PERIOD....This statement cannot be true by virtue of the law.

In anycase this is an old thread that should probably be left to die.....

 

[Leaky Waders]

H & H,

I agree this is an old thread...but I do like it alot. For everyone who has asked...

"Can I kill a grizzly with a .223?"

"Can a .38 special kill an elephant?"

"If Peter Parker weren't in his Spiderman costume, could my high point take him out?"

Or, "If king kong were real and storming our city, would my 10/22 be effective?"

....I point them to this video.

I used it to teach my son to:

a) use enough gun

b) aim your gun

c) have a plan if things go bad

d) aim your gun

e) aim your gun

f) aim your gun

v/r,

L.W.