Local Officials Want Feds Help Fighting Meth Epidemic

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Local Officials Want Feds Help Fighting Meth Epidemic

Thursday, July 07, 2005

By Todd Zwillich

An organization representing local officials said Tuesday that the White House is not paying enough attention to a growing methamphetamine epidemic.

The localities say they need more help from the federal government to combat methamphetamine, a powerful and highly addictive stimulant that has spread throughout the country through distribution from home laboratories.

Fifty-eight percent of local law enforcement agencies in a National Association of Counties (NACo) survey released Tuesday call methamphetamine their most serious drug problem. Cocaine is named the No. 1 problem by 19 percent, while marijuana is named by 17 percent.

Read Web MD's "Brain May Repair Itself When Meth Users Quit."

Marijuana Policy vs. Methamphetamine Policy

But the organization was critical of President Bush’s drug policy, which has focused heavily on preventing marijuana use in children and adolescents. The strategy includes widespread media campaigns against marijuana and a focus on school-based drug testing.

The administration should focus on methamphetamine “as much as they do marijuana,” Larry E. Naake, the group’s executive director, told reporters.

“We think that there now is an epidemic that needs to get their attention,” he said.

“Our message to the administration is that there is also an additional drug epidemic that is occurring in this country,” said Angelo D. Kyle, the NACo president and a county board member from Lake County, Ill.

Officials complained that the rising use of methamphetamine – also known as “meth” -- is increasingly responsible for child neglect cases and arrests for domestic violence. Overdoses with the drug, as well as poisonings and burn injuries from manufacturing labs, are putting increased pressure on rural and county hospitals, they say.

Forty percent of 303 counties in 13 states surveyed by the group reported an increase in neglected children placed outside the home by child welfare departments because of methamphetamine use.

The 2006 federal budget cuts $804 million in federal grants that localities used to police methamphetamines and other drugs. The White House budget states that the funds, called the Justice Assistance Program, “do not have a record of demonstrating results.”

“It’s causing us a tremendous problem,” Naake said of the cuts. The group wants Congress to spend more money on methamphetamine law enforcement and treatment programs for localities.

Read Web MD's "Parental Substance Abuse Widespread."

White House Reaction

Jennifer DeVallance, White House Office of Drug Control Policy spokeswoman, tells WebMD that the administration's focus on marijuana is "fair and appropriate." The U.S. currently has 15 million regular marijuana users but only 1 million methamphetamine users, she says.

"You hear the word 'epidemic' thrown around quite a bit when you're talking about meth. This is a major and significant problem, but it is not one that is out of control and it is not one that can’t be contained," DeVallance says.

In a 2003 survey conducted for the federal government by the University of Michigan, nearly 6 percent of college students and 9 percent of adults aged 19-26 reported using methamphetamines at least once during their lifetimes. The use of methamphetamines by middle school and high school students dropped by 24 percent, according to federal figures.

Read Web MD's "This Is Your Brain on Speed."

By Todd Zwillich, reviewed by Michael W. Smith, MD

SOURCES: The Meth Epidemic in America, Two Surveys of U.S. Counties, National Association of Counties, July 5, 2005. Larry E. Naake, executive director, NACo. Angelo D. Kyle, president, NACo. 2005 National Drug Control Strategy, White House Office of National Drug Control Policy.



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Stanislaus County is using a sophisticated van with a gift for sniffing out meth labs. It is supposed to make a major difference in the 'war' on drugs. Only time will tell. The sheriff of the county has been tapped as a special assistant to the 'Governator' as a liason with local law enforcement.

A number of meth labs have been found in the rural areas that have dairy cows since the smell of the cow waste aids in covering up the odor of the cooking of the meth.
 
A number of meth labs have been found in the rural areas that have dairy cows since the smell of the cow waste aids in covering up the odor of the cooking of the meth.

OHH man, now owning a Dairy cow means PC for a no knock, if we follow the coffee can logic.
 
So if you own a cow or two, drink coffee, and have a cold for the treatment of which you've just bought medicine, that puts you on the FBI's Most Wanted List? :D
 
So if you own a cow or two, drink coffee, and have a cold for the treatment of which you've just bought medicine, that puts you on the FBI's Most Wanted List?


Ssshhhhhh, Preacherman

Dont give them any ideas for a NEW and IMPROVED SOP. :evil:
 
Yup, I recently heard a report that stated meth use is the #1 drug problem in the USA and exceeded whacky tobacky. There have been a couple busts here over time for portable meth labs and whatnot. It seems like I'm hearing increased reports for meth use/sales/busts.

I used to think marijuana problems was the most severe drug problem but my perspective is skewed since our state borders Canada and we get a lot of marijuana traffic. I knew potheads and they were completely useless when high.

Albiet I didn't know much about meth at the time, but from the stories I've seen and heard...I can't understand why it was never categorized as a bigger threat than marijuana from day one. I guess better late than never.

Maybe that dairy farm down in Auburn here is actually a big meth lab *looks at his carton of milk*
 
Basically, with a meth lab you can turn 150 bucks worth of chemicals into 50,000 bucks worth of meth in 24 hours. That is why it is the big drug problem, you don't have to import it and the profit margin is HUGE.

Why anybody would want to put in their system something that will keep you awake for 72 hours or longer at a time, that somebody made in the trunk of their car, is beyond me.

Just my .02,
LeonCarr
 
Vernal45, Preacherman...y'all are welcome to come up and help me deal with the tweakers. We're chest deep in meth and labs around here. Tweakers are the worst for violence and unpredictability.

Of course since meth is largely a rural problem, it's not on the feds radar scope. It is pretty easy to get grant money to run stings to bust the local convenience stores for selling cigarettes to minors though....Oh well who am I to set priorities???

Jeff
 
Jeff, I understand and appreciate your problem. At the Federal prison where I work, there are a number of inmates whose mental capacity (whatever it may have been to begin with) has been significantly impaired by drug use. The psychologists tell me that PCP used to be the demon here, but that crystal meth does much the same thing to the brain - fries every circuit in sight, and there's no recovery, ever, not nohow. One sees these guys shambling round the circuit, or talking randomly to themselves, the wall, a passing earthworm, etc... very sad to see.
 
Yep, meth users are pretty sorry sacks. My sister's a long time meth user. She's managed to drag my whole family down with her, except me. I'm the only one with no compassion, I guess.
Thing is, meth should be a self correcting problem. Pass a law making it legal to shoot meth addicts on sight. If the victim of gunshot wounds are found to be under the influence of meth, rule it to be self defense. The "meth epidemic" would disappear overnight.
Hel, even better, offer a bounty for ears. OK, maybe that's a little overboard. A little. :evil:
 
There has to be some way to maximize the harm crystal meth causes to people stupid enough to use it but somehow isolate that harm from the rest of society.
 
My solution:

Legalize it and cocaine. Require a warning label, disclaimer of liability to be signed. (Legal) Production to be monitored by the FDA, to a 'best safety' standard that aknowledges that the stuff, in whatever form, is hazardous to your health, but at least it's produced to a medical purity and is cut with safe materials at a highly controlled level. Tax it to provide for treatment centers.

Why cocaine? It'd probably edge out meth. Why? Safer and probably cheaper.

Congratulations, you just killed the black market, 'pushers' don't have an exclusive market, etc. Push to kids? Limited market, and severe penalties. I'd also post a bounty on them. Yes kids, you finger a guy offering drugs to minors, and it's worth $500-1k to you(if collaberated). This would be advertised in schools. You can use the tax to pay for this as well.

This will kill the dealers, the 'mom and pop' production labs, pollution, hazards, etc.
 
My solution:

Legalize it and cocaine. Require a warning label, disclaimer of liability to be signed. (Legal) Production to be monitored by the FDA, to a 'best safety' standard that aknowledges that the stuff, in whatever form, is hazardous to your health, but at least it's produced to a medical purity and is cut with safe materials at a highly controlled level. Tax it to provide for treatment centers.

Why cocaine? It'd probably edge out meth. Why? Safer and probably cheaper.

Congratulations, you just killed the black market, 'pushers' don't have an exclusive market, etc. Push to kids? Limited market, and severe penalties. I'd also post a bounty on them. Yes kids, you finger a guy offering drugs to minors, and it's worth $500-1k to you(if collaberated). This would be advertised in schools. You can use the tax to pay for this as well.


No, no, no! Stop it! You're making sense!
We can't have that, ya know.
 
Let 'em make all they want. Let 'em use all they want. When they get sick, do not treat them and let them die. Do not offer any "off the goverment tit" rehab programs either. No government involvement one way or the other. Let's see how long the drug problem lasts. Darwin will collect his and the rest of us can get back to our lives.

Greg
 
I didn't know that the meth of today is less toxic, and more potent, than what was around when I was in college in the 60s and 70s. It was nasty stuff that quickly earned its reputation - speed kills. JT

www.ncgccd.org/pubs\systats\meth.htm

"Methamphetamines began to emerge as a popular drug during the 1960’ in the West Coast region of the United States. DL-methamphetamine—a less potent and more toxic form than D-methamphetamine—was being produced and distributed by outlaw motorcycle gangs. The primary users were truck drivers who could use the stimulant to stay awake for an extended period of time.

It was not until the late 1980s that D-methamphetamine emerged as a result of a new ephedrine/pseudoephedrine (found in common over the counter cold remedies) reduction method in production. This new form of methamphetamine was more potent than the traditional DL-methamphetamine and also produced less adverse side effects causing its popularity to grow very quickly."
 
TarpleyG said:
Let 'em make all they want. Let 'em use all they want. When they get sick, do not treat them and let them die. Do not offer any "off the goverment tit" rehab programs either. No government involvement one way or the other. Let's see how long the drug problem lasts. Darwin will collect his and the rest of us can get back to our lives.
While we're at it can we do the same thing for alcohol and tobacco?
 
Tioga and Chemung Counties in NY are rife with meth labs. It seems to be spreading and fast. But because it is not a big city problem, it gets swept into the bucolic landscape.

Even in my little burg, you can see who is using and the local constabulary has seen increasing complaints with associated crime.
 
Let 'em make all they want. Let 'em use all they want. When they get sick, do not treat them and let them die.

Makes sense to me...


...except that

1) These losers have kids, and they are being mistreated.
2) These losers will come to your house and slit your throat
 
The U.S. currently has 15 million regular marijuana users but only 1 million methamphetamine users, she says.

True. However, most marijuana users sit around on the couch munching doritos and getting wasted. Meth addicts are paranoid and violent.
 
Let 'em make all they want. Let 'em use all they want. When they get sick, do not treat them and let them die. Do not offer any "off the goverment tit" rehab programs either. No government involvement one way or the other. Let's see how long the drug problem lasts. Darwin will collect his and the rest of us can get back to our lives.

I agree. This will weed out stupid users and pave the way for responsible users of meth. Even better would be to only punish someone for manufactoring if they can NOT pass a basic organic chemistry quiz and are useing very impure chemicals and sloppy lab work. It pains me to hear about these horrible sloppy reductions and nasty unclean product they don't even recyrstalize even once! Im not asking for them to run it through a glass chromo column but come on. The stuff often is colored by other chemicals used in the reaction and you can tell the synthesis route just by looking at it!

All this sloppy work gives the impression to some people that meth is just mixtures of random household chemicals. Sadly with some of these 'cooks' thats about true.

Only smart cooks should be allowed to make meth - Americas future is at stake

Don't let mexico one up us on illicit drug manufactor!
 
My solution:

Legalize it and cocaine. Require a warning label, disclaimer of liability to be signed. (Legal) Production to be monitored by the FDA, to a 'best safety' standard that aknowledges that the stuff, in whatever form, is hazardous to your health, but at least it's produced to a medical purity and is cut with safe materials at a highly controlled level. Tax it to provide for treatment centers.

Why cocaine? It'd probably edge out meth. Why? Safer and probably cheaper.

Congratulations, you just killed the black market, 'pushers' don't have an exclusive market, etc. Push to kids? Limited market, and severe penalties. I'd also post a bounty on them. Yes kids, you finger a guy offering drugs to minors, and it's worth $500-1k to you(if collaberated). This would be advertised in schools. You can use the tax to pay for this as well.

+1


Here in WV, meth, or "crank," is especially rampant in the southern parts of the state. The people making it in the hills are virtually no different from the moonshiners that distilled in secret during prohibition. I have been screaming to anyone who would listen that if all drugs were legalized and regulated, the market for [comparatvely] safe, recreational drugs would be enormous, and the drug giants would be one uping each other to perfect such drugs. As such, while drug abuse would still occur, it would be far less of a problem, as the drugs would be medical grade, and tailor made for the recreational market.

Personally [certain extreme cases aside], I don't see the logic of making possesion of ANYTHING illegal - that seems to me as the purest form of something being "evil" because the government says it is (also known as 'blaming the tool,' something we're all to familiar with).
 
Let 'em make all they want. Let 'em use all they want. When they get sick, do not treat them and let them die. Do not offer any "off the goverment tit" rehab programs either
No doubt you'll still be saying something this ridiculous when your sixteen-year-old daughter becomes addicted to meth.
 
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