London bomber may have been a recently released Gitmo detainee!

[Jeff Timm]

The fact remains,

"The International Red Cross," is a NGO which thinks it should be the new World Government. Intelligent people disagree.

The US of A DARES to question the glorious superiority of the IRC, there fore they must be condemned in the strongrest terms possible.

Then the Communist infiltrated media, cross reference, "Masters of Deceit" by J. Edgar Hoover, et. al., screems anti-american propaganda from every outlet.

If the US of A treats the detainees at Gitmo IAW the law of land warfare, they have to be executed.

Geoff
Who thinks we should declare war on the source country of all persons attacking the US of A. Unconditional surrender only.

 

[RevDisk]

If the US of A treats the detainees at Gitmo IAW the law of land warfare, they have to be executed.

They don't "have" to be executed. That is simply the highest punishment possibly allowed under laws of land warfare. (Well, duh.) If we wished to do so, if they were found guilty in a relatively fair trial, we could impose any sentence we pleased up to and including the highest possible punishment.

In other words, we can execute them, imprison them or let them go. But with accountability, certain rights and such for the accused. In plain English, allow them a lawyer, let the outside world know they exist, allow inspections of their conditions, etc etc. No biggies. Except for the fair trial part, we're doing most of that already.

Who thinks we should declare war on the source country of all persons attacking the US of A. Unconditional surrender only.

Out of curiousity, care to clarify that? How do you declare war on the "source country" of an ideology that is not bound to any specific nation?

 

[bjbarron]

If you don't mind me asking--who, do you believe, found them guilty?

There are currently up to 13,000 prisoners in US custody taken just in Iraq.
75% of prisoners taken since the beginning of the war have been released.
A little over 700 were sent to gitmo, from all over the GWOT.
Nearly two hundred were released, some falling back into old ways.
Of the remaining 500+, nearly 300 have had military tribunals.
One was released.

These men were taken in various operations and are not spear-carriers. They are either the worst of the worst or have needed information. Of course, they could be total angels just caught in the wrong place at the wrong time.

To answer your question. They were taken on the murky field of battle that is the GWOT, and are kept thru the mechanism of tribunals. So, the entity that has found them guilty enough to be kept is the US Military. Totally legal in time of war...they can be kept to the end of hostilities.

Cut to the chase....

Are the first World Trade Center attack, the USS Cole, 9/11, Afganistan, Beslan, Bali, Madrid, Iraq, and London related? If so, you must agree we are in a war and gitmo is one result of what happens in war. If not, think again.

 

[Malone LaVeigh]

I'm guessing someone found a miraculously preserved ID card amid the debris. And a copy of the Koran in his car parked in the bus terminal parking lot.

 

[coylh]

bjbarron, Yes, I see what you are saying. I do have one last clarifying question. Do you think that the US Military is unique in this regard? That is, who else has the authority to find people guilty in this manner?

 

[coylh]

bjbarron?

 

[Cosmoline]

Saying we are "at war" in a global sense is rhetorical nonsense. It has no bearing on the legal status of these prisoners. We were at "war with communism" for a long time in a rhetorical sense, but we still followed the rules of war and dealt with the communist nations on the other side. In this case, there is no nation on the other side. So the very structure of international law breaks down. There is nobody to conduct a prisoner exchange with.

What's the fall back? REGULAR CRIMINAL LAW, just like it always is. If one of these guys was plotting a terror attack in the US, he should be hauled before a federal court and put on trial. If the "GWOT" allows the military to pick up anyone anywhere anytime and detain them on suspicion that they are a threat, then civil liberties mean nothing.