MA: Troopers training to carry submachine guns at Logan airport

[Sir Galahad]

Tamara, my point wasn't about who can own what. I'm not in this to say who should own what. My point was about some folks thinking they can't fight a guerilla war without full-auto (in a "for instance" scenario involving rebelling against a tyranny.) There will be plenty of full-auto weapons laying on the ground if a few guys with accurate semi-autos, or even bolt actions, do their part with impeccable marksmanship. The point was, full-auto is not a "be all" issue. It doesn't define the ability to defend against tyranny. The Viet Minh started mostly with captured bolt action Arisakas, Mosins and SKS. One sniper with a bolt action rifle can hold up thousands of men for hours. It is the will, not the weapon, that makes the warrior.

CZ-75, be sure and copy your comments about police and post them to your dashboard. That way, if you're stuck in a snowdrift without your cell phone in the middle of a blizzard, the police on-scene will know you don't need their help. Blaming cops for bad laws is like blaming gun owners for crime.

 

[CZ-75]

CZ-75, be sure and copy your comments about police and post them to your dashboard. That way, if you're stuck in a snowdrift without your cell phone in the middle of a blizzard, the police on-scene will know you don't need their help.

That would never happen, b/c I'm not so stupid that I'd go out in a blizzard. Every time I needed the police, they weren't there any time soon or weren't interested in doing much, so I'd doubt it would make a difference anyway. I'd rather rely on AAA.

Blaming cops for bad laws is like blaming gun owners for crime.

Nah, I just blame police unions, since they're at the forefront of the continuing paramilitary trend. Ask Ohioans about how little the police have to do with the legislative process.

 

[Sir Galahad]

On police unions, we can agree. My take on the paramilitarization of the police, in hindsight, is the same as my take on marksmanship. A lot of police departments try to make up for marksmanship with equipment. There's also the growing trend of saying that ARs are better in police cruisers than shotguns (which a lot of people are running around saying the .223 is better than a shotgun for indoor home defense, so this is not only a police trend.) What I always found odd is that in the case (and I'm going to Tuesday morning quarterback here) of Columbine, where mass shooting was in progress, the SWAT team did not storm in. Ok, here they were with body armor, kevlar helmets, and military weapons and they did not storm in to stop this. So, what was the point of the body armor and helmets? At some point, we're going to be in violation of the Posse Comitatus Act by proxy when we have a de facto army patrolling the streets. In many cases, from what I've seen, the need isn't for more weapons, but more nightstick applied to adjust attitudes on up-and-coming bad guys and more proactive policing. But then the various "communities" go into hysterics about "police brutality" and "profiling". So, in many ways, the police are damned if they do and damned if they don't. Just like here I am second-guessing the SWAT team at Columbine and I wasn't there to know the full scoop. There aren't any easy answers. Well, there are, but today's touchy-feely society doesn't want to implement them.

 

[surfinUSA]

The unarmed british police have had MP5s at their major airports for years (A lot more british cops are armed than people realize).

More surprizing was that the cops in France carry Mini 14s at Charles De Gaulle airport.