Civility, is relative. Someone can be polite as hell right up to the moment they put a bullet in your head. I'm thinkin' many of those folks that were led to the gas chambers actually thought they were getting a well needed shower/delousing before getting their new prison clothes. I wasn't arguing about being polite and nice, my point was we need to use facts and truths to defend our rights, instead of the bashing and name calling I see so much of here. Folks are not just "stupid" because they don't agree with us. "Stupid" is thinking they are. "Stupid" is turning folks off, that may be open to accepting our argument, before they hear that argument, because of how they perceive us and our own intelligence.
America is not Russia a century ago, nor is it Venezuela. It's going to have to change a lot before it is. That change is not going to come all at once as a coup, but over a period of time, one chip at a time. This is unless we have some major catastrophic event, like the eruption of the Yellowstone Supervolcano, or another WW. I see neutral folk's mindset on certain things like magazine capacity and certain platforms changing with the wind, but I also see many long time gun owners now supporting these things too, along with UBCs. Folks here want to call them "Fudds/Stupid". Little chips.......
Agreed. We still, even with "Proud Boys" and such, are still by far the more civil side on the issue. And I also agree name-calling and ad hominem attacks belittle the attacker as much as the attacked. And of course someone can be polite as hell right before they put a bullet in your head; that's how
1984 ends, O'Brien leading Smith through a doorway, and the reader is led to believe (depending on the edition read) that Smith is killed from behind while O'Brien is walking him through that door.
Amongst those led to the gas chambers that thought they were headed for the showers, it's because they couldn't fathom human beings committing such an evil act. I believe none of us here have that problem. We
know there is such evil in men (and women. No time to be sexist.) .
I think what Doc Rock and I were trying to be sure you understood (and with the above statement along with many past posts I am convinced you do) that those behind the 2A efforts have been at this for multiple generations, and will not relent until they either get what they want, which is 1984-like total control, or are eradicated. They have the lack of reason of the masses (deliberately induced by them) on their side. We only have truth and humanity on ours. They sense victory and have slipped control of overt enthusiasm of some of their 'useful dupes', hampered by the dumbing down which has infected their camp as well as the general population (AOC, Beto, et. al.) to the point where they are starting to lose control of their own machine. Hitler found out that using unintellectual, emotionally charged rabble could be effective but there was a price to pay. Those behind ANTIFA (a solution to a non-existent problem) are learning this, too; they have become a liability to them, becuase they are not very controllable. (They are very trollable however....)
Indeed, the 'death by a thousand cuts' is still their primary strategy. However, as I mentioned there is a schism within the "progressive" movement, and though it can and should be exploited, it has to be done carefully, to expose the lunacy to those still capable of rational thought. And while there are some on both sides of the issue that want an overt Civil War, I am not one of them, and those that want it know not what they wish for.