Moron at the range!

[Bandit01]

Okay, I just got back from my local range. (I'm purchasing a S&W 610 and went there to do a transfer). Soon as you walk to the range, they salesperson ask, (if they don't recognize you) if you're an experienced shooter. Well Two Asisan guys walked in and the manager asked if they were experienced. One of the morons said yes and pulled out a LOADED .380. The manager yelled at him, telling him to go outside and unload it (obviously, you're not allowed to walk in with a loaded pistol--there's a huge sign, big as day in front which says so). Anyway, they came back inside and went into the range. I was busy talking to someone when one of the guys that work there yelled, "Hot damn". We all looked at the video monitor and saw one of the asian guys jumping up and down. The manager ran onto the range. I didn't know what the hell was going on. A moment later the 2 guys walked out, one had a rag around his hand and blood was dripping. Apparently his Walther bit him. The slidegot caught onto his hand and ripped into his thumb. He's lucky that it didn't pull his thumb off. Now, here's where it gets interesting. HE NEVER PULLED THE TRIGGER. He cocked the pistol and as the slide snapped back, it snapped into his hand. He guy dropped/threw the pistol and it went off. He's lucky, damn lucky that no one else was in the range at the time. He's lucky that the bullet didn't hit him or his friend. I'm lucky because after doing the paperwork, I was going to pop off a few rounds. Now after the commotion and seeing that the moron will live, they got mad because they were charged the $8.00 fee to use the range. When asked why he had to pay, the manager said, "Hell, I have to go and clean up all of the blood that's on the range". I couldn't believe it, this guy escaped death, had a bleeding hand (it was a lot of blood pouring out), and all he was worried about was having to pay the $8.00 range fee.

Lately, I haven't been to the range because every Summer, something happens. Alot of people are visiting the area or have more time so they go to the range. It's always a pattern that in the Summer and on Saturday's most of the "accidents" happen. When I do shoot, it's usually the hour before the range closes. I don't want to sound superior because I had to learn as well but it scares me when I see people not paying attention and doing dangerous things, thinking that an accident won't happen to them.

 

[HighVelocity]

There are plenty of idiots to go around. All you can do is be aware of your surroundings which it sounds like you were.

Let's be careful out there folks.

 

[MikeJ]

This is why I won't go to the range on weekends anymore. I've seen too many idiots out there and as much as I know this isn't the pro-gun party line, I really believe people should be required to take a basic firearms safety class prior to running around with a loaded weapon. I was 33 when I got interested in firearms and had enough sense to know that I needed some basic training in how to handle a gun properly. I have absolutley no patience with gun idiots, all they do is add fuel to the anti-gun contingency. I will now gingerly step down from the proverbial soapbox, thank you very much.

 

[Shorts]

That guy was lucky. Like above, that's why I don't go to the range on weekends and after work hours. There are way too many people out there and it is tough to keep track of all the idiots. I go to the range in the mid morning. Yes, there is normally one or two other guys at the rifle range or down the firing line on pistol. But it is much easier to keep tabs on who's around.

 

[KnightHawk67]

I found the best time to go to our local range during the weekend is as soon as they open the doors (10:00am), seems most of the reckless people are still asleep.

 

[MoeMentum]

Public ranges, you gotta love them. If you look around the booths, and see all those bullet holes everywhere, it makes you wonder how many people escape death on a daily basis. I don't go to public ranges anymore for that reason.

 

[ojibweindian]

The range to which I belong, Sand Mountain Shooters Club (near Boaz, AL) is a top rate place run by a top notch guy that doesn't tolerate any unsafe handling of weapons.

I've not ever seen anyone be unsafe there twice.

 

[Oldnamvet]

Another moron

Every year, as a fund raiser, my club has sight-in days for deer hunters. We open our private range to the public, charge then $5 a gun, and we supply a range officer to every station, supply targets, spotting scopes, and coach people in shooting safely and getting their sights set. Every once in a while we get a real idiot and have to deal with him. Mine was a guy who loaded his Browning auto .308 up and was getting set when he shot into the ground about 50 feet in front of the line. OK, lets try that again. He puts in another round (we only allow single round feeding for obvious reasons), and puts one through the roof! I take the gun away from him and check it over. When you take the safety off, it fires! I told him he had to get that fixed and he didn't see why he couldn't just use that instead of the trigger. Then he wanted his money back because he didn't get sighted in. We gave him a rain check for when his rifle had been repaired. Our thought then was what would have happened if he had put in a full clip. Full auto?? He never came back and could still be out there -- hunting.

 

[mikewilczynski]

out in the woods

I am fortunate to live near state game areas that allow shooting as long as yu are safe. We have found a nice hill to shoot into. I now use the range when the weather is bad or I need to sight in. I too have found too many idiots and range owners/workers who dont watch too close (except the DNR naxis at the local state ran range).

 

[P0832177]

This happened Monday morning! I was out at private gun club. I was shooting at 50 ft. It was a nice and it was not hot out yet! Another guy shows up. And, so I stopped shooting, and he asked if we could shoot closer!
Well, I am up for going with the flow so to speak! So, he plops up his targets. A full size B27 target. He starts loading magazines. We chat! The first words out of his mouth are I am Glock Armorer! Then he relates he has been to Thunder Ranch, and then he relates is a CCW instructor at one of the public indoor ranges in the metro. I go to myself big whoopee! So, he starts shooting his 40 SW Glock. I expect great things from this fellow! Well, he starts shooting, and he his shooting his glock like a freaking shot gun! There is no sense of groups, and his presentation is not professional at all! I stand there waiting for the Shock and Awe! But, it never came! I just write it off to false bravado! And, I just chuckled the rest of the time on the range!

Who needs morons when supposed professionals are such poor shots!

 

[115grfmj]

thats why I belong to a private range....

the range officer sits in the tower and an a Pa speaker is wired to every station (its loud). He's a mean SOB but thats what we pay him for.
I feel safer because of him.



Plus if you don't listen to him......he'll give you a burst from his
coax mounted m240.

 

[gnappi]

Morons

I was on the range real early to get some practice drawing. I was alone on the range, and noticed a guy in back of me at a range cycling mags of ammo through his Commander pointing it at MY head and back through a plexiglass
windowed sheet rock wall that was NOT bullet proof. I've seen enough 1911 AD's to stop that RIGHT NOW!

I holstered my loaded gun, walked out and told him to put the gun down on the floor. He wouldn't do it, and then I grabbed the grips on MY gun and told him that if he didn't I would make him.

He set it on the ground, I unloaded it and brought it to the range owner who watched the whole confrontation. The range owner was busy helping a customer when the ass was feeding ammo into his Commander, and apologized to me and told the jerk he could pick his weapon up AFTER the Police let him. He called the cops, and told them he assaulted me. The cops asked if I wanted to pursue charges, I said no and the jerk left sheepishly. I'll bet HE never does that again!


Regards,

Gary

 

[nico]

I was in a lane next to a couple kids today. They had to be over 18 because that's the minimum age without adult supervision. They were shooting moderately quickly, hitting all over the place on a silhouette at about 10 feet. Next thing I know, a chunk of the ceiling tile they have as a sound baffle falls into my lane . Apparently, these dummies were trying to see how fast they could shoot or something and shot the target holder while trying to hit (I won't say "aiming") the chest of the silhouette. Thankfully, the holders are two pieces of metal angled away from the firing line.


on a positive side note, dry firing over the last week has really improved my shooting and I put 225 rounds through my CZ-75 without a hiccup. That makes a total of 400 rounds of WWB FMJ and 25 rounds of WWB JHP with no issues whatsoever

 

[CNubel]

Additional Morons

Just like one of the other posters mentioned, the private range I belong to opens up to the public once a year for pre-deer season sight ins. I don’t work the sight ins….I want nothing to do with them. The stories I hear from the other members of the club are enough to curl your teeth. Everything from unsafe gun handling to guys trying to figure out why their 30-30 won’t shoot the .308 rounds they bought for it. :banghead:

I don’t go to public ranges anymore if I can help it.

 

[Bandit01]

Private Ranges

I just bought a house in Charlotte. The problem with Charlotte is, you don't get a lot of property. Now, my house, fortunately has a huge yard but not big enought to practice shooting (without scaring the neighbors). I really want to find a private range with expensive membership rates. Lately I've been busy but I was going to my range about 3 times a week. I know everyone there very well. I've made the mistake of shooting there on Saturday--that's the worst day of the week to attempt to shoot. I was told/admonished not to shoot my .44 mag because the sound frightens some shooters. Honey hush, it's a range. If you don't like the sound of guns, well Charlotte has some non manly hobbies to get involved with--we have quite a few museums. All I say is, shooting is a natural right--higher than a constitutional right. I don't need the gov't to tell me that I can shoot. But as muych as I like to shoot, I don't want to get shot by some dumb ass novice. When that sombitch can screaming out the range--hell, he was jumping and hollering, by instinct I reached for my snub nose .357 but realized that I didn't have it on me. Hell, if I was in the range when that dumb bastard dropped/threw his pistol to the floor and it went off--only god knows what I would have done to him. Him grazing me with a .380 would have cause him to feel my .357 or 10mm. (Yes, I carry 2 guns in my car).

 

[english kanigit]

I understand perfectly where you're coming from my friend.
I just hope some sweet little ol' lady doesn't decide to try and shoot your balls off.


Stay safe man, never underestimate an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

 

[45R]

Quote by Bandit01

Well Two Asisan guys walked in and the manager asked if they were experienced.

If your going to call them "MORONS" at least spell their nationality right.

Its Asian.

 

[Bandit01]

What difference does it make how it's spelled? The point of the story was the horrible accident. Let's not turn this into either a flame war or a race war. If you have nothing positive to contribute, please keep your negative comments to yourself.

 

[45R]

What difference does it make how it's spelled?

The difference is a 5 year old in a spelling bee would have gotten it right not to mention it is offensive.

 

[SnubbyMan]

Bottom line is I don't think it matters what ethnicity the morons were. You'll get some Asians with good gun-handling skills, and some Asians with poor gun-handling skills. Moronism is everywhere...

 

[Bandit01]

Hey 45R, would you kindly explain to all how my post was offensive?

Given the fact that I'm black (or African American if you like), why would I post offensive stuff here. Do you think that I'm posting subliminal neo-nazi anti Asian messages? Grow up, we're all adults here. This is about learning and sharing information about safe and practical firearm handling. Someone looking to be offended would have been offended by this thread. My adding that the 2 guys are Asian is merely a descriptive fact. The premise is not that all Asians are morons. But now, it seems that the only moron here--is you. There are alot of novices out there that comes to this web site to learn about firearms. Hopefully one will read my thread and walk away with being more aware of how to properly handle a pistol. Your moronic semi-insulting comments is not helping anyone.

Now once again, can you make an intelligent contribution to this thread that can shed some light to proper pistol handing?

 

[Cazach]

Bandit,

You also called them "guys" and I take offense to that. I am a "guy" and feel that your comment is demeaning and paints us "guys" in a bad light.

After reading these, I found it funny that I experienced a combination of some of these stories.

Went to the local indoor range one Saturday, and was late because wife was coming along and well you know. Anyhow, we get tucked in and after about 20 minutes the owner comes by and is dressing down the "persons" a few lanes over. It seems that these "individuals" had just shot the target trolley in their lane (cables were now on the floor), and then had decided to keep shooting (at other people's targets )

When the owner got to the lane, there was blood all over the floor and one of the "offenders" was holding his hand. Turns out that while one shooter was holding the pistol, the other would seat the mag (don't ask me why)
and while doing so had removed a sizable chunk of the other's hand.

Moral of the story: find a private place or get there early and be gone before the lunatics show up.

 

[crofrog]

I was at a public range in Maryland who I say their big business is renting pistols. So their are always morons there. Last time I was there a gun black couple came in wearing "urban" attire. And Rented a glock. Neither one of them had shot at all. After I watched the range officer explain to them how to operate the pistol, range rules, and saftey rules. They where given a gun and some got some silo targets.

Well I was given the lane next to them

As I was sitting up I heard them start shooting and looked over and it was the girl shoot. at honestly 1-2 yards away. She missed the paper for over 50% of her shots. Then she switched off with her boyfriend and he put the shots on the paper, but no grouping at all and most of them where hitting the target in the hip area...

Well I was coaching my friend in the lane with me on how to shoot and we where doing failure to stop drills. and I was watching them switch off again. And the chick stuck her thumb on the back of the slide of the glock and was getting ready to pull the trigger. I yelled for her to stop (mainly in the intrest of not having to preform frist aid) and she did I then showed her how to hold the gun again (the range officer did thin on the way in as well). And She held the gun the way I showed her and managed to make a shot gun group this time. Well I went back to my shooting finished shooting my 2 mags then switched off. and I look over and she's holding the pistol the same wrong way again. I basically said ???? it and stood to the other side of my friend to not get splattered with blood and went back to help him.

A few minutes later she had to leave because her thumb was bleeding...

That being said it was high noon on saturday and all the morons where out there. With my friend and I practicing the way where where.

Failure to stop drills, presentation, hammers, weak side etc etc. We had all the really scary novice shooters staring at us. They must have thought we were spec-op's or something because they where all coming to watch us shoot and ????. It's pretty funny because I suck compared to most people I know.

Chris

 

[mec]

"Do you think that I'm posting subliminal neo-nazi anti Asian messages? Grow u....."
Heck. I didn't even notice you went typo on the word "asian" - sight reading is probably a form of dyslexia. My subway conscious mind sorts out the typos without me even noticing it. I read upside down too which is pretty good for a third generation bog trotter.

I suppose that if there was anything wrong about being an Asian, it would be insensitive to mention that somebody IS one.

Interestingly enough, MORON could be offensive to a certain subset. Up until about the middle of the last century, Idiot, Imbecile, and Moron were accepted clinical terms attached to IQ testing.

 

[torpid]

If your going to call them "MORONS" at least spell their nationality right.

Its Asian.

Yes but they weren't Asian, they were Asisan.

From Asisia.

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