Mosin Nagant - Am I the only one who DOES like these?

[tilden]

I’m interested in purchasing a M91-30. This would be my first and a I have a few questions I hope you'll would answer.

1.What is the difference between one being a Tula or Ishevsk manufactured and is one better than the other.
2.Please tell me about the Hex M91/30. In your opinion would you buy this one over the other?
Thank you for your time, I greatly appreciate it,

 

[Joshua M. Smith]

I’m interested in purchasing a M91-30. This would be my first and a I have a few questions I hope you'll would answer.

1.What is the difference between one being a Tula or Ishevsk manufactured and is one better than the other.
2.Please tell me about the Hex M91/30. In your opinion would you buy this one over the other?
Thank you for your time, I greatly appreciate it

Hello,

1. Tula is generally considered better made and more desirable. From my experiences with both, I consider Tula to be desirable in that I can pronounce it easier!

2. The hex receiver is the older type. They tend to command premiums (as far as 91/30s go) and are considered more desirable and a bit stronger. I doubt the latter is really the case and would pit the strength of a '38 or '39 against a hex.

I guess it just depends on what you want it for. If you want to collect these or round out a WWII collection, by all means get a Tula hex receiver.

If you want a rifle that you don't mind scratching now and again and shooting lots, just get an Ishevsk from dang near any year and have fun! The war examples are crude with regard to finish, but they shoot up there with most of the rest! When they're being rushed out of the factory to the front lines a few miles from said factory, usually arriving within hours of assembly, man, they didn't worry about machine marks!

FYI, my pet Mosin and one of the better shooters I've seen is a 1939 Ishy. It is capable of sub-MOA groups. I am not capable of this degree of precision. It does everything I ask of it!

Regards,

Josh

 

[rickhall4318]

I have two M/N 91/30's and love 'em both. The first is from the Tula Aresnal has all matching serial numbers. All I have done to it is float the barrel and clean it. The 2nd one is from the Izheck aresanal. Still working to accurize that one. The Tula shot a 5 round 2 inch group at 100 yds inside the ten ring so not bad for $100 gun. The second one shot a 5 round group 3-4 inch group about 3" high and right but still not bad I think...

 

[GunnyUSMC]

I would say that it really does not matter which one you buy first, just get one. You will just end up buying more.
I first bought a round then added a hex. Then a M44 carbine then a M91, then a M38 and then and then and then. Now I have over 50 Mosins.

 

[morcey2]

I would say that it really does not matter which one you buy first, just get one. You will just end up buying more.
I first bought a round then added a hex. Then a M44 carbine then a M91, then a M38 and then and then and then. Now I have over 50 Mosins.

I haven't taken the step of buying them by the crate.



Yet....

 

[lowerunit411]

Here is what I have noticed...the ¿ast majority of the respondents say it is " an interesting piece of history and a plinker at best"...yet if if you respond to this thread with anything less than a glowing endorsement your called a "hater".there should be a sub-forum for Mosin guys. I appretiate the passion and the gun but I don't own one..don't want one and that's that. I can appretiate their place historically and am glad that they bring a lot of pleasure to a great many, but the fact that I don't own or want one doesn't make me a hater...just happily ambivilent. ( Sorry for spelling etc...blackberry on a boat in 25 knt winds)

 

[holdencm9]

I got my first one a little while ago and after completely taking it apart and cleaning it inside and out, and taking it to the range a few times to run a couple boxes through it, I can say I really enjoy it. It is just an interesting part of history and a fun rifle to shoot and get a big boom out of it. It is also my only milsurp.

 

[GunnyUSMC]

Here is what I have noticed...the ¿ast majority of the respondents say it is " an interesting piece of history and a plinker at best"...yet if if you respond to this thread with anything less than a glowing endorsement your called a "hater".there should be a sub-forum for Mosin guys. I appretiate the passion and the gun but I don't own one..don't want one and that's that. I can appretiate their place historically and am glad that they bring a lot of pleasure to a great many, but the fact that I don't own or want one doesn't make me a hater...just happily ambivilent. ( Sorry for spelling etc...blackberry on a boat in 25 knt winds)

I see nothing wrong with someone that does not like them. I have a bunch, but they are not on the top of my list of milsurp rifles.
I also think that they are a poor choise for making a sporter, but others love to tinker with them. But I always say, "It's your rifle, do what you want with it."
There are many different Mosins out there, most are just your run of the mill, but there are those that are worth money to collectors.
I bought that crate of Mosins for $1700. That was tax free and no shipping. I picked them up myself. I still have 17 of them. I gave one to my friend. Here's Bill picking him one out.


There are some guns I don't like or care for, but I does not bother me if someone else likes them.
And I traded two of them for Turkish Mausers.

 

[morcey2]

Here is what I have noticed...the ¿ast majority of the respondents say it is " an interesting piece of history and a plinker at best"...yet if if you respond to this thread with anything less than a glowing endorsement your called a "hater".there should be a sub-forum for Mosin guys. I appretiate the passion and the gun but I don't own one..don't want one and that's that. I can appretiate their place historically and am glad that they bring a lot of pleasure to a great many, but the fact that I don't own or want one doesn't make me a hater...just happily ambivilent. ( Sorry for spelling etc...blackberry on a boat in 25 knt winds)

I love mosins, but I know that they aren't for everyone. It's like mid-80's beater chevy/gmc pickups. I love them, but lots of people don't.

The only thing that irritates me is when people portray them as totally unsafe and inaccurate useless pieces of ... metal-and-wood. I've seen some that you couldn't pay me enough to shoot, but most of them are extremely strong and relatively accurate. I'm a history buff and that's why I originally started getting them and it was only after I got the first one that I started to love how they shoot. (Especially the M44's at twilight. big fireballs.) They're styled more like an early 19th century musket than a modern rifle and don't have the greatest gas-venting abilities in the case of a pierced primer/ruptured case, but it has a ginormous 3rd lug for safety. The safety itself is a little weird, but it's fun watching people try to operate it the first time.

They're not as good looking as Mausers or Springfields, but I think they look better than Carcanos. The 7.62x54R is a good round for lots of different things. I have an M44 that will most likely turn into a hunting rifle since the stock had the bejeezus sanded out of it. I fall firmly in the camp of "It's your rifle, do what you want" when it comes to these.

I'm kind of just rambling. I don't hold mosins as sacrosanct, but they are often criticized unfairly.

BTW, 25 knot winds make it really hard to fish. Why are you still on a boat? <ducks> <runs>

Matt

 

[Romeo 33 Delta]

I have a number of them (because I collect milsurps) and shoot them, but not often. I have mostly Finnish guns (even my hex 1891 with the Imperial Russian Eagle crest is a Finnish capture/rework) with the exception of a Type 44 Chinese carbine ( which I shot ONLY ONE SESSION - 50 rounds ... cleaned and retired it. Just NASTY recoil and a muzzle flash brighter then the Sun!)

I "like" them, but don't love them. (I can say that for most every other nation's arms as well.) I do love the bolts on my Krags and Springfields ... but other than that ... they're also "just rifles".

Still ... when I grab that old M-91 and go to the range, I wish it could tell me where it's been and what it's seen in it's 121 years of life. I'll be the last 20+ with me have been the most restful!

 

[crazy-mp]

I guess I would be in the "like" category. These are something of a double edged sword, they are reliable, powerful and pretty accurate guns. I don't think they are tack driver by any means, but they are the same as a Glock, love em or hate em, they will go bang. Plus how else you gonna arm 5 people for under 500 bucks?

 

[hang fire]

I have a Finn Sako barreled M-39 and it looks like a veteran of the 1941-44 Continuation war. But the bore is excellent and it can shoot better than I can ever hold it.

Was a bit put off by the non-finished rough stock with a non fitted butt plate. But have read this was almost the norm for the M-39. The Finns were only interested in the accuracy of the rifle, not what the stock looked like, as it would be subjected to hard field use anyway.