Mosin Nagant popularity

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Just an aside, but know who bought most of the Winchester model 95s? Russia, over 75% of all Win model 95s in 7.62x54 were sold to Russia as military muskets. I have read somewhere between 500,000 and one million. I wonder when, if ever, we will see the lever gun that went to war on the surplus market?

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I like any full size rifle that costs less than $100 and has cheap ammo(440 rounds for less than $100).

As an added bonus their is a very good chance that the rifle was used in battle during WWII or even WWI.
 
In 1961 I paid 25 bucks in a gun shop for a Model 1873 trapdoor Springfield. Was asked at the time, why would you want one of them old things? The little 8 mm Persian Mauser carbine on the right, I paid 15 bucks for it. See them go now for well over a grand all the time.

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Will come a day when people will look back on the MN happy days and ask themselves, why didn't I pick up a crate or two of them when they were dirt cheap?
 
I just spent a couple hours today at the range trying out my "new" 1943 Izhevsk Mosin today, blew through about $20 worth of ammo (about 100 rounds). Found out that it shoots darn fine for a milsurp! Best 100 yard 5 shot group had 3 rounds in the 8 ring, other two in the 7. That's minute-of-man accuracy, perfect for me.
 
I just spent a couple hours today at the range trying out my "new" 1943 Izhevsk Mosin today, blew through about $20 worth of ammo (about 100 rounds). Found out that it shoots darn fine for a milsurp! Best 100 yard 5 shot group had 3 rounds in the 8 ring, other two in the 7. That's minute-of-man accuracy, perfect for me.

Minute of Bambi all day long!
 
Hello,

I'm still trying to figure out why anyone wouldn't want one.

I've explained my reasons for liking them in waaay too many posts now, and I don't care to repeat myself.

Why don't some folks like them? Is it the whole Russian/CCCP/Cold War thing? If so I can accept that.

I won't own an British gun for many of the same reasons. Had an Enfield and sold it because it smelled like oppression.

But for most other reasons..? Can't fathom it.

Regards,

Josh
 
They are great, I highly recommend picking up a good one and a tin of ammo. For $200 you can shoot all year long.
 
In case you missed it in my post, Finland use Mosin Nagants to kick the Russian's rear end in the revolution of 1917, the Winter War of 1939 and the continuation war until 1944. Finland remains free to this day. Besides, the Finns are great people. Many of them live in the UP of MI. Site 7.62x54r explaines it all......chris3
 
Wow

I suspected as much from the posts but I had no real idea. A month or so ago I didn't even know what a MN was until my curiosity got the better of me and I checked them out on Wickipedia. Their history is indeed rich. A facinating rifle.
I think I'll grab a case or two while they're still "on sale".
With the economy as it is, these things could become one of the better long term investments of the time.
And with the kind of history they have, I wouldn't be surprised.
Thanks for all the posts.
 
I wouldn't buy a case with the plan of getting rich anytime soon. There's so many of them that the market is going to be flooded for years to come and even when the supply of imported ones dries up they will be trading at prices not much higher than what they cost us for some time to come. There's far better ways to make more money with your money.

For me the love is because it's a classic that I can shoot for cheap. I don't really consider myself a rifle guy although I have a few. And when I shoot rifle I enjoy interacting with the gun for each shot. Which is why I don't own ANY semi auto rifles at all. For me half the fun is cycling the empty out and the new round into the barrel with that industrial feeling but very satisfying bolt action of the Mosin. Well, that and the big BOOM! that I know is coming...:D

If you enjoy plinking like this or don't mind the idea of looking for the shorter carbine version to use as a hunting rifle then pick one up along with a 440 round SPAM can and join the fun. At the end of the can either buy a crate, reload for more accuracy or sell the Mosin to someone that likes it for the same price or a few bucks less than you paid and move on. The nice thing is that they ARE currently priced within the impulsive "Oh, what the hell" limit where it's not the end of the world for most of us if we don't like it after shooting it a bit.
 
Lets see ...

For $200 you get a rugged, reliable, powerful, accurate center fire rifle, a piece of history, 440 rounds of good milsurp ammo in a tin, and enough change back to have a real nice dinner somewhere.

Whats not to like? :evil:
 
IMO, they are cheap, fun to shoot, some times astonishingly accurate and ammo is readily available. Try finding another 100-150 dollar (out the door) centerfire, where you can generally go down to a gunshop and buy ammo.
 
In the 90's I paid 20-40$ for 91's and 75-100$ each for M-27 and 28/30s.....now they are an easy 300-500$ each, depending on differeing conditions and marks.
M-44s 5 years ago that were 70$ fetch close to $200 today........just wait for a movie to come out with the main charcater using something, and see how it gets popular :D

besides, I use a Mosin as my bullet placement tool all yesr round.
Only accurate Rifles are interesting, so make mina a Mosin!!
 
In case you missed it in my post, Finland use Mosin Nagants to kick the Russian's rear end in the revolution of 1917, the Winter War of 1939 and the continuation war until 1944. Finland remains free to this day. Besides, the Finns are great people. Many of them live in the UP of MI. Site 7.62x54r explaines it all......chris3

While Finland certainly is free today, and no one debates that they were "kicking Russia's tails" they did lose both of those wars.
 
Low price (but pretty good quality) rifle, rugged, reliable, historical, and low priced ammo aer a few reasons they are popular. I have used my 91/30PU and M44 for deer hunting with good effect on several occasions. I mean, anybody can go to a store, buy the latest Remrugchester for deer but how many owners can say that their deer rifle has also likely shot a freakin' Nazi right in the face!?!?!:evil:
 
I don't know how people are pasting previous quotes on this forum but someone said "no FFL" on purchasing these things. What is FFL? Federal Firearms License?
Sorry for the stupid question.
Buying an antique rifle that functions can't be any different than buying any firearm, no?
Anyway, I agree that it might not be the best investment, but if you bought say a hundred of them and re-sold them a year or so later and made 10%, not bad either. I suspect that is what the dealers are thinking and doing.
JMHO
 
I don't know how people are pasting previous quotes on this forum but someone said "no FFL" on purchasing these things. What is FFL? Federal Firearms License?
Sorry for the stupid question.
Buying an antique rifle that functions can't be any different than buying any firearm, no?
Anyway, I agree that it might not be the best investment, but if you bought say a hundred of them and re-sold them a year or so later and made 10%, not bad either. I suspect that is what the dealers are thinking and doing.
JMHO
The FFL is the way the gun must be shipped. If you buy a modern gun, (older than the 1900's or so, I don't know the date) the gun has to be shipped to a person with an FFL. You then go to them and fill out the paperwork, just like you were buying the gun from them. The FFL charges a fee for doing that. They call in your info and do the standard check.
 
Guns 1898 and older are considered antiques and do not need an FFL. They can be shipped to anyone over 18 without an FFL involved.

Guns over 50 years old are considered Curios & Relics (C&R) and can be shipped to anyone holding a C&R license (aka 03 FFL). The C&R license is for collecting only (you cannot use it to sell firearms as a business) but is easier to obtain and less expensive than a dealers FFL.
 
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You couldn't give a Mosen-Nagant away, even with a case of free corrosive ammo thrown in.
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Really? Funny, I own 5 milsurp Mausers, I've given two away in the past -those Mausers sucked, and I wouldn't want to sell something that sucked. I've got an M44 and an M38, they're fun to shoot and nice to look at.

You might be misunderstanding the appeal of historical firearms.

Regards,
Brian in CA
 
I know that not everyone likes Mosins, but that goes for a lot of other guns.
But there is no reason to be rude to, or dislike someone that does or does not like the weapons that you like or dislike.
The Mosin is appealing for a few reasons.
If you are a shooter, the refurbs are cheap and the ammo is cheap, = lots of range time.
If you wish to start collecting, you can buy a bunch to build up a collection very fast because they are cheap.
If you are already a collector of Surplus rifles, you can find one that will fit in your collection.
Also, you can collect just Mosins, By model, by year, by manufacturer, or by country.
If you like to tinker on guns, there are plenty of run of the mill Mosins out there, just make sure that you don't have a rare one first.

Just don't become one of the Purist that get all upset about what others do with their Mosins.
Now I have found that there are some collectors that have gone over the edge and act like the Mosin is the rifle that was made by the gods and worship them. But I just put them in the same category as the collectors of Mcdonalds happy meal toys.

I have a good size collection of military surplus weapons and Mosins are in it.
I like the old war horses the most because, they are still painted with history.
 
Before I owned one I thought they looked like a 2x4 with a pipe on it; that was before I actually owned one, then I fell in love! I had my C&R licence and bought 4 M91's as my first purchase because they were cheap and I didn't have much money so I took the plunge...then, well as they say the rest is history. I bought 3 more after that. I love history and to hold an actual piece of it in your hands and wonder what it had been through is very interesting. Same reason I like my RC K98. A regular K98 may have been there and done that, but a RC certainly was.
 
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