Mossberg 500 Vs. Remington 870
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New_geezer
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bowfin - if you're to start that noise then allow me to point out I picked up a cherry, used Winchester model 12 field grade for less than either an 870 or a 500.
I also have a 500, also bought new, and it works just fine. I've had fewer problems (ie zero) than my friend with a new 870 express. But either is a good gun.
This used to be THE most asked question over at shotgunworld. Now the most common question revolves around the merits of O/U's costing less than $500.
I also have a 500, also bought new, and it works just fine. I've had fewer problems (ie zero) than my friend with a new 870 express. But either is a good gun.
This used to be THE most asked question over at shotgunworld. Now the most common question revolves around the merits of O/U's costing less than $500.
walking arsenal
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Well, I own a 500A and chose it over the 870 because of the location of the controls.
I can bump the slide release with my middle finger and the thumb safety is exactly in the right spot. It works for me.
I know how guys on the board here go on about how much abuse the 870 can take and the 500 cant but seriously. How many people are are ever going to see months of combat conditions with their shotguns. conditions that will really really show who is who. both guns can difest loads of ammo.
I see both in pictures from iraq so they both must be worthy.
Phantom warriors unit is deploying there soon and they got a crate full of 500s a while back. Thats gotta say somthing.
And for crying out loud, if you dont like the topic just sigh to yourself, shutup and dont click it. It really is that simple.
I can bump the slide release with my middle finger and the thumb safety is exactly in the right spot. It works for me.
I know how guys on the board here go on about how much abuse the 870 can take and the 500 cant but seriously. How many people are are ever going to see months of combat conditions with their shotguns. conditions that will really really show who is who. both guns can difest loads of ammo.
I see both in pictures from iraq so they both must be worthy.
Phantom warriors unit is deploying there soon and they got a crate full of 500s a while back. Thats gotta say somthing.
And for crying out loud, if you dont like the topic just sigh to yourself, shutup and dont click it. It really is that simple.
AnthonyRSS
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I have to. I'm sorry.
walking arsenal
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Case in point.
I have said it before and will say it again. The attachment of the action bars to the fore arm ring in a mossberg is not as strong as it should be, I myself have seen many give up the ghost, but then I moonlighted in a gun shop, so YMMV. Usually they broke at an inoppurtune time, like when trying to nail that big buck or when a sticky shell prevented you from knocking down that big turkey you winged.....at least that was what i heard. seems people would get antsy and pull a little bit before the slide release let go and they would pull the action bars loose.
I have both and there are thing I like and dislike about each of them.
I like the safety on the Moss 500 better because it is easy to find and use where the cross bolt type safety of the Rem is not as fast and reminds me of a cheap Daisy BB gun.
I like the lighter weight of the Moss but it costs durability. I can shoot both just as fast so I don't really think that the weight hurts the 870 but it sure helps soak up a little recoil and makes it a stronger gun. The Rem has a better slide bar system that is smoother and stronger. The Moss is often cheaper so it can be a good buy.
I really think the Rem 870 is still king after all these years until something better comes along.
I like the safety on the Moss 500 better because it is easy to find and use where the cross bolt type safety of the Rem is not as fast and reminds me of a cheap Daisy BB gun.
I like the lighter weight of the Moss but it costs durability. I can shoot both just as fast so I don't really think that the weight hurts the 870 but it sure helps soak up a little recoil and makes it a stronger gun. The Rem has a better slide bar system that is smoother and stronger. The Moss is often cheaper so it can be a good buy.
I really think the Rem 870 is still king after all these years until something better comes along.
'Card
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Fortunately, most specimens I've become familiar with were adequately (even enthusiastically, perhaps) equipped with both.p89cajun said:
As for the guns, I'm an 870 guy. I've owned both. Liked both. Was impressed by both, but the 870 is the only one I own now. Just feels better to me, I guess - which is completely subjective, but good enough for me.
I went with the Mossberg 500. I was looking for an inexpensive but reliable gun to keep at my apartment. I found an excellent 500 with a 18" ported barrel for $139 and I couldn't let it go.
Had I found an 870 instead of a Mossberg for that same price when I was looking for an HD gun I most likely would have bought it as well. No real preference to me because most everything I shoulder seems to fit me well.
One thing I will say, my 500 has impressed the crap out of me. It is a little open as far as patterns go unless I stick with Federal buck shot but it will throw cheap Remington valuepack slugs almost like a big bore rifle. I have a whole lot of respect for the capability of this type of gun now that I have some experience with one.
Not the perfect tool for every job but it would work on anything from a squirrel to a big hairy mammal with just a swap of ammo.
I like it.
BTW - no offense to anyone but this is a gun discussion board, right? Having said that, what is wrong with discussing guns? The search function is great but if you just wanted research you could go to a library for that.
I like talking guns. That is why I keep coming to this site.
If you have a question, even if you are sure is has been asked before, I will take no offense in giving my opinion.
Had I found an 870 instead of a Mossberg for that same price when I was looking for an HD gun I most likely would have bought it as well. No real preference to me because most everything I shoulder seems to fit me well.
One thing I will say, my 500 has impressed the crap out of me. It is a little open as far as patterns go unless I stick with Federal buck shot but it will throw cheap Remington valuepack slugs almost like a big bore rifle. I have a whole lot of respect for the capability of this type of gun now that I have some experience with one.
Not the perfect tool for every job but it would work on anything from a squirrel to a big hairy mammal with just a swap of ammo.
I like it.
BTW - no offense to anyone but this is a gun discussion board, right? Having said that, what is wrong with discussing guns? The search function is great but if you just wanted research you could go to a library for that.
I like talking guns. That is why I keep coming to this site.
If you have a question, even if you are sure is has been asked before, I will take no offense in giving my opinion.
Thanks to all the people who aren't averse to responding to posts from us shotgun newbies. I'm sure you were all newbies once, too, and asked questions of experts that they'd all answered 100 times before.
Since I'm not a newbie with handguns anymore, I frequently post on the various handgun boards and take the time to answer all of the newbie posts that get posted over and over again ("What's the best handgun?", "Which caliber?", "Polymer vs. steel", "Has anyone ever heard of a USP? Is this a good gun?", etc.). That's the function of a board like this. Plus, many people who are new to gun boards aren't yet familiar with the search function. I know I wasn't at first.
So, as someone mentioned above, if you have a problem with a thread, don't bother to post on it. Just my $.02
Since I'm not a newbie with handguns anymore, I frequently post on the various handgun boards and take the time to answer all of the newbie posts that get posted over and over again ("What's the best handgun?", "Which caliber?", "Polymer vs. steel", "Has anyone ever heard of a USP? Is this a good gun?", etc.). That's the function of a board like this. Plus, many people who are new to gun boards aren't yet familiar with the search function. I know I wasn't at first.
So, as someone mentioned above, if you have a problem with a thread, don't bother to post on it. Just my $.02
AnthonyRSS
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No offense meant, I just like the pictures.
well thanks for your input on my input, but threads like these give us all a bad name because
1) they're usually trolls
2) they make it look like gun people can't talk about more than a dozen or so topics (which might be true after all)
3) they encourage newbies NOT to do research
etc
There's no board out there that I've ever been a part of that doesn't have a FAQ in the true sense of the word.. noobs are encouraged to read it so they can meaningfully contribute new ideas rather than rehash topics that have been covered hundreds of times in umpteen different places with no new real insights.
RTFM/DAFS
1) they're usually trolls
2) they make it look like gun people can't talk about more than a dozen or so topics (which might be true after all)
3) they encourage newbies NOT to do research
etc
There's no board out there that I've ever been a part of that doesn't have a FAQ in the true sense of the word.. noobs are encouraged to read it so they can meaningfully contribute new ideas rather than rehash topics that have been covered hundreds of times in umpteen different places with no new real insights.
RTFM/DAFS
AnthonyRSS
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I wouldn't call anybody a troll for sincerely asking questions that HAVE been re-hashed 1,438,932 times. There are always new people that can give their opinion on the subject.
Why am I still posting on this thread and dragging it more off topic?
870 > 500. Its simple math, really.
Why am I still posting on this thread and dragging it more off topic?
870 > 500. Its simple math, really.
Black_Talon
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I've seen it on more than a few occasions, but I also worked in a gunshop for while. The action bar assembly is silver-soldered onto the forend tube, and sometimes the silver-solder breaks. It really shouldn't, but it does.
Sorry Sport, Gave my 500 (last of the three I've owned) to my son-in-law a couple years ago. But I do have a 870 express, a 870 wingmaster and a 1100 that I shoot almost daily. Very smooth operating guns, all of them but there is no question in my mind that the 500, though not as pretty and smooth operating is a more solid and rugged built gun. Course that is just my opinion but I can qualify that opinion. Now maybe, just maybe, you might give up the little cute icons as a means of communication and answer the question I asked of you, as to what do you qualify your statement on since as you said yourself, you have never owned a 500.
Oops .............. forgot about that 410 that I keep out in the barn. So I guess I do still have one 500 left.
AStone
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: Hang around the forums long enough and there are almost no new subjects.
Although it does make answering questions easier when you've answered them before and before and before and before and before.
I've owned both an 870 and a 500. I kept the 870. Smoother action, more reliable, more familiar to me and with the addition or a Vang safety much faster to fire than the Mossberg. I hated that top tang safety.
CSA 357
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to tell the truth i would rather trust my life to my 1948 mod 12 winchester,but back to the ? i dont like what the mossy is made of,i dont have to own one to know that ,and the fore arm is lose on all of them i have seen,rattle , i hunt with my shot guns a turkey can hear very good, *csa*:banghead:
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